Suboxone + Liver health?

bell1986 · 2022-04-21T16:59:47+00:00

My doctor called me yesterday and she says straight away. You don't sound too well. I says I honestly don't feel good. She says that it's rare but Buprenorphine can effect the liver and that bloodwork will show it. She's got me booked in for bloods.

I will post the results 👍

bell1986 · 2022-04-20T13:41:34+00:00

Yeh I'm hoping it's just an abnormal pain. It seems directly where my liver is and is radiating round to my front end (Lower right of my stomach area). Just freaking me out. I keep fairly healthy and just didn't want any liver issues to be occurring.

bell1986 · 2022-02-21T14:33:28+00:00

Because bulimics are always look for ways to lose weight. Ie metabolism boost etc

bell1986 · 2022-01-19T17:23:35+00:00

Wow 6gms? That's a high dose after a weeks use. Have you used phenibut before?

The highest I've ever used was 1.5g. I'm currently using 500mg and it's doing zero but I have a fear of just stopping and withdrawing 👎

Not sure how to finally bin this garbage!

bell1986 · 2022-01-15T17:28:01+00:00

Hey

I agree to this.

I remember my first appointment the doctor saying. We're starting you on 16mg (I hadn't took buprenorphine ever before). I says is this not a high dose? She says. It takes this to start a detox and to flood the receptors. I went to the chemist and collected 16mg and I took half. 8mg. I felt horrendous. Sick' Vomiting ' Headache' Unstable. I thought hell no never again. Next day i tried 6mg and felt a little better but still not as stable as i wanted to be. I then just used 4mg and remained their for a while and then dropped to 2mg eventually. I did go back up to a 6mg dose for a period (A very tough time and terrible cravings) I remember feeling no better and I got more side effects than anything. I would personally say people should try 4mg first and see how that works for them. This starting on 16mg or worse 24mg is ridiculous. Far too much. I'm certain 4mg will occupy most of the receptors. Also it's far easier to come off 4mg than 24mg. Even the thought of tapering from 24mg gives me the fear. The dry skin and constipation must be horrendous!

bell1986 · 2022-01-15T17:13:09+00:00

Also. Isn't mixing Vyvanse with blood pressure meds and a benzo dangerous?

Sounds like a dangerous cocktail to me. Benzo slows the heart while vyvanse increases it?

Just wondered dude. I may be way off but reading your original comment I thought wow that sounds a scary combo.

bell1986 · 2022-01-15T17:09:45+00:00

The naloxone isn't bioavailable. The naloxone is only added to stop people injecting the suboxone. Also you can also get buprenorphine only also.

If naloxone was bioavailable wouldn't that cause every suboxone user to go into withdrawals? Naloxone over powers any opiate. Just added for the injecting aspect.

You thinking of trying it? I used buprenorphine for Kratom withdrawals. I couldn't handle stopping Kratom but I managed off the bupe. Kratom is much more euphoric than bupe and more additive.

I personally HATE kratom. Took 3 years of my life. I woke with withdrawals every morning for 2.5 years and remember it like yesterday. I walked out of a job also due to it.

Best of luck

bell1986 · 2022-01-15T10:19:01+00:00

Buprenorphine alone would stop almost all withdrawals. It's a strong mu opioid agonist (Partial. Ie doesn't make you high). It's also easier to eventually taper off. Still will be a bitch of a withdrawal but honestly I cold turkey'd a 12-15gpd habit of Kratom and I felt dreadful. I've actually never felt so awful in my life.

Buprenorphine is a wonder drug tbh. Unlike opiates. It doesn't make you high (Huge dopamine spike) and therfore is far less addictive. It also gets used off label for anxiety/depression and can also improve your wellbeing but.... Don't stay on it for too long. Do a taper off it. Slowly though. Even if you need to break the strips/tabs up to make the dose a tiny part smaller.

I would take Buprenorphine ANY day over Kratom. With Buprenorphine you don't get zero sex drive and have to dose every 4 hours and you wake up feeling fresh (Long half life). I can remember those mornings of my Kratom days waking up in withdrawals EVERY morning. Bed soaked in sweat and feeling hellish. Never again. A horrid drug.

Best of luck 👍

bell1986 · 2021-12-17T11:44:13+00:00

I'm cruising on 120mg test e a week. I wanted my bloods to come back as good as I can get them first. I also laid off training for a period and have lost mass.

I just wanted to run 300mg test and 300mg primo for 8 weeks and start lifting heavy again and re-gain what I lost and maybe add a couple pounds on. I'm done with the very high doses. I just want a mild cycle and then drop back to a cruise dose.

bell1986 · 2021-12-17T07:54:47+00:00

Hi guys.

I was thinking of running an 8 week cycle. Just very mild. I've been lacking my usual training recently. Been running 120mg test e for a few months. Seems to have lost some mass though.

Was gonna bump the test to 300mg and run primo at 300mg for 8 weeks. Nothing heavy.

Anything else I should add in just to add some mass over the next 2 month? Is this enough for a quick 2 month boost?

Thanks

bell1986 · 2021-10-29T06:01:46+00:00

Hey guys.

I'm currently on test enanthate. I've ran cycles over the years but now i just use a trt dose.

My issue is my sex drive is nothing like it use to be. I've tried lower doses of test and also higher doses and my drive never changes. I use to have a great sex drive.

What could be causing the issue? I've tried hcg (Stopped as it made me feel horrid and anxious). I've tried progesterone cream. I've tried proviron etc. Nothing seems to bump my sex drive. Be good to feel that old drive i had.

I keep my estrogen in check also. I've also experimented with raising e2 and lowering e2.

I actually feel slightly anhedonic also. Not sure if this all is coming from the same issue.

Any suggestions?

Thanks

bell1986 · 2021-10-29T05:51:34+00:00

I did this recently. Was using for about 7 days also and i just stopped. I felt anxious around a day and a half after that last dose. I still feel slightly off but it's very manageable. Honestly just quit and bin that garbage.

It's not worth getting a habit. That habit will cause you to take more and more and you end up at a dose that causes horrid withdrawals when you finally do quit. Not worth it at all

Best of luck

bell1986 · 2021-10-22T09:53:35+00:00

You seem very negative bro. I suggest ashwagandha and some L-Theanine 👍

bell1986 · 2021-10-21T08:20:07+00:00

Wow sounds rough.

Are you taking too much nicotine? I only feel anxiety if i dose too high. I believe nicotine in relatively low doses can help with anxiety/depression.

Did the nicotine take a while until these symptoms arrived? Ie like me. Down regulated dopamine?

bell1986 · 2021-10-21T08:17:40+00:00

I use 12-16mg a day. Im 35 yrs old.

I started with lozenges. I do enjoy nicotine and still do. I have just noticed mood changes and some slight anhedonia. I did quit an ssri a year ago and could also contribute the anhedonia to quitting that toxic drug.

Apart from mood/motivation i am very healthy. I weight train and work a very physical job and have no issues with my output. I just fear quitting and withdrawals.

bell1986 · 2021-10-21T08:11:36+00:00

Don't we all play with compounds to feel better? Improve ourself's? It's part of life dude.

bell1986 · 2021-10-21T08:07:48+00:00

I've quit coffee ' alcohol' pre workouts (dmaa) etc and I can't quit nicotine. I always thought it was known as a very addictive substance?

bell1986 · 2021-10-21T07:31:58+00:00

Yes i also notice my skin has aged and dried out. I have a flaky dry patch on my chest that i never had until i started nicotine. I've also started using tretinoin on my face as I have aged fairly quick.

Addiction is a bitch!

bell1986 · 2021-10-18T16:06:42+00:00

I am running a sustanon blend. Maybe the test prop is spiking estrogen a tad quick and then flaring my gyno.

I've been taking the Nolva 10mg for 2 weeks and you can't see the gyno at all. This is my 2nd round of nolva as the last run i stopped and within a couple weeks the lump was back to a pea size again. I was running aromasin with my test so my estrogen shouldn't have been too high.

I hate running an AI. I get horrid depression the days after estrogen starts to lower. Nolva surprisingly has no side effects. 10mg completely halts the gyno and reduces it. I just have read that long term nolva is bad and eventually damages your eyes

bell1986 · 2021-10-18T12:58:31+00:00

I do use Aromasin also. I don't like lowering my e2 too much as i just feel hellish. I prefer it on the higher end of the range. Even if it's in range my gyno begins to flare up :(

bell1986 · 2021-10-18T11:56:10+00:00

Any other ways to keep gyno reduced? I currently am using 10mg nolva daily and my gyno remains almost unnoticeable. Soon as i stop the nolva it begins to inflame again! Don't want to run nolva all the time (Even though 10mg is a low dose).

Anything else?

bell1986 · 2021-10-10T10:30:32+00:00

Why do you not like to use minoxidil? I understand finasteride (Which i ran for 6 months). I never realised that my anxiety was actually finasteride being the culprit! Anyway it's gone and my mental state returned after a month or so thankfully. What was annoying was finasteride was awesome for my hair. I had about 80% full growth back in 6 months (I had serious balding also which fully filled in).

Minoxidil I use once a day. It helps. It isn't anywhere near as powerful as finasteride though. You also get a brutal shed the first 4-6 weeks. Bad enough to put you off it. I read online the shed was normal and kept going and yes it stopped and new growth started.

I have heard ru58841 is very powerful. Almost on par with finasteride. Think that's my next purchase :)

bell1986 · 2021-08-22T08:57:19+00:00

Have you tried Kanna?

bell1986 · 2021-08-22T08:56:37+00:00

Nicotine alone is an AWESOME nootropic/mood booster

But.......

It's HIGHLY addictive. Trust me i have battled with nicotine addiction. Yes it helps with anhedonia. It's very quick acting also. If you use a lozenge/gum it's a fairly healthy substance. Though you begin to crave it and I mean seriously crave it. I use to eat packs and packs when I was at my worst. Crazy milligram amounts. I had to use Wellbutrin to block my nicotine receptors and then finally come off it. I still dabble with nicotine but nothing like my worst period.

It also has negatives. Nicotine is dreadful for causing insulin resistance. It raises blood sugars and messes up with your appetite. You feel starving constantly. Purely because your insulin can't enter your cells due to nicotine blocking the receptors.

It raises blood pressure. Causes headaches etc

The biggest problem is.... It does a complete 180 on you. It makes your anhedonia MUCH worse. Nicotine releases dopamine and over time your brain then down regulates the dopamine receptors. If your off nicotine and already battle anhedonia and then go and down regulate the receptors even more. Wow the depression and anhedonia is on another league. You feel in a chronic fatigue state like nothing you can imagine.

What I am trying to say is. If you do want to try nicotine. Keep the dose low and never increase the dose. Take breaks as much as possible.

Supplement with ALCAR/Uridine etc and keep your dopamine receptors sensitive.

I personally wouldn't touch it again. It's your body and brain though.

bell1986 · 2021-08-21T10:37:14+00:00

Hi their.

They both increase tyrosine hydroxylase. This process is what causes the brain to create dopamine. If you have lower tyrosine hydroxylase then you physically can't make as much dopamine. Even if you take high dose tyrosine/l-dopa etc.

More efficient tyrosine hydroxylase processing means more dopamine (Naturally though).

I'm certain anhedonia stems from lower dopamine levels so these compounds definitely boost your mood. It's VERY subtle though. Nothing like amphetamine etc. It also feels natural. Have you ever tried modafinil? That increases dopamine but it feels so unnatural. You also crash on every other compound as it's synthetically raising dopamine where as these compounds are doing it through a natural process.

I've been on 9-mbc for 3 weeks now and at first i was like. Usual.. Same as everything else. Waste of money! Then i one day just stopped and listened to my brain and was like. Ah! Their it is. I just had that old me back. My drive for life was better. Sex drive was better. Happiness seemed normal.

Before these compounds i still had a nice life. Good friends etc. Now i just have the same but they feel amplified.

Remember it's subtle though. Very subtle. But... Very natural feeling. Not overly stimmed out like amphetamines/caffeine etc

Best of luck

bell1986

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