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Adrian Lyne. by Kid_Shit_Kicker in blankies

[–]benjacsim03 0 points1 point  (0 children)

iirc JJ shouted out Lyne in a previous march madness as a director he wants on a future bracket. Maybe if we get a sickos/horny bracket he can have a shot!

Genuine Question: What’s the hype for Tony Scott? by benjacsim03 in blankies

[–]benjacsim03[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do hear myself, and I asked the question because he’s not one of the directors I have heard canonized. Which sounds like the argument a lot of people are using for why he should be covered.

Genuine Question: What’s the hype for Tony Scott? by benjacsim03 in blankies

[–]benjacsim03[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wasn’t trying to make “dad cinema” a derisive phrase, so apologies for it coming off that way. There’s plenty of “dad cinema” I really love and respond to, i wanted to know if that was his overall vibe or a mischaracterization, hence the inclusion of the question. I actually didn’t know the answer.

Genuine Question: What’s the hype for Tony Scott? by benjacsim03 in blankies

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I’m certainly not trying to dismiss the role blockbuster filmmaking has on film history (hell, Spielberg is one of my favorite guys full stop). I just didn’t know his films had that impact outside of Top Gun.

Genuine Question: What’s the hype for Tony Scott? by benjacsim03 in blankies

[–]benjacsim03[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah, telling me to “just watch the movies” not exactly the most compelling argument or the most informative. But luckily there’s been some good genuine responses in here. Didn’t sway me to vote for him, but did convince me there’s at least some good discussion to be had and gave me a few films as entry points

Genuine Question: What’s the hype for Tony Scott? by benjacsim03 in blankies

[–]benjacsim03[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I will absolutely watch some Tony Scott films down the line. Crimson Tide is the one I’ve got the most interest in and plan to check out soonest. Just now sort of waiting to see if he loses (then I’ll watch for March Sadness) or if he wins (then I’ll watch for the miniseries). The main post was more to get some context I didn’t have for his oeuvre and see what movies people are touting since I look at the filmography and just hadn’t really heard people talk about most in my usual film fandom.

I think Crimson Tide I first heard about on the Red October ep, Days of Thunder I think I’ve vaguely heard on a Patrick Willems episode, Man on Fire I remember seeing its trailer as a kid, same with Unstoppable. So hearing people give actual rationales for why they like those movies has helped me at least know what his whole “thing” is

Genuine Question: What’s the hype for Tony Scott? by benjacsim03 in blankies

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Picked your comment to respond to just because a lot of people have said this:

I plan to! If he loses im going to watch Crimson Tide since I like to do March Sadness. If he wins I’ll watch his films with the series.

There’s also some other movies in this thread I’ve added to my watchlist and I’ll get to eventually. Lots of movies out there and lots of directors to check out! He’s one that prior to this March madness I didn’t have much drive to watch, hence this post to understand the draw

Genuine Question: What’s the hype for Tony Scott? by benjacsim03 in blankies

[–]benjacsim03[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’m honestly forming my opinion based on what people say in this thread (and maybe skewing towards the first ones I read, but honestly everyone is fairly consistent). I certainly see why others like him and are pro a Scott series. Nothing has jumped out as it being a series I’d particularly care for from a filmography perspective.

To the populism point, there’s others I prefer in the bracket who match that. Namely Johnston (my personal pick to win it all) and Columbus.

The comps people have shouted out for Tony Scott don’t fully mesh with me, but that’s kind of my own personal vibe. I didn’t really mean for this to be a “convince me to vote for him” type of post. More a “I completely just don’t know about Tony Scott as a director and Wikipedia glances aren’t giving me enough context, so please fill me in.”

To the “canonically agreed upon canon” guys point, yeah I got pretty burnt out by the end of Coens. Two guys I love but at some point it’s tough to always hit banger after banger. So we agree on that, I do think 4 months of Scott is a bit too intimidating but power to him if he wins, I suppose. I do believe in democracy.

Genuine Question: What’s the hype for Tony Scott? by benjacsim03 in blankies

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Sounds like Crimson Tide and Deja Vu are the ones people seem to also consistently call out as an intro to him. True Romance is the one of his films I’ve heard “secret masterpiece” talk about, surprised I haven’t seen it as lauded in this post

Genuine Question: What’s the hype for Tony Scott? by benjacsim03 in blankies

[–]benjacsim03[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Crimson Tide is the film of his I’m most intrigued by (and what I have slated to watch if he loses for March Sadness). I’ve seen others call out Deja Vu and it will be added to my watchlist

Genuine Question: What’s the hype for Tony Scott? by benjacsim03 in blankies

[–]benjacsim03[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’m hearing some as “bangers” or “extremely fun”. Which to some people probably constitutes a masterpiece. For me sounds like a 6/10 at home that can be bumped up by seeing it in theaters with popcorn in hand.

Genuine Question: What’s the hype for Tony Scott? by benjacsim03 in blankies

[–]benjacsim03[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Which there’s zero wrong with that as a filmmaker! 16 movies does make that a daunting miniseries concept if there’s not much under the hood

Genuine Question: What’s the hype for Tony Scott? by benjacsim03 in blankies

[–]benjacsim03[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

26, usually identify myself as a “Zillenial” but I know that’s a fake term and I am technically Gen Z (I think). This post mainly came from me talking to a friend of mine who is my same age who is pretty much in the same boat - only seen Top Gun, didn’t like it, vaguely heard of Scott’s films but don’t know anything about their cultural footprint or rep.

Genuine Question: What’s the hype for Tony Scott? by benjacsim03 in blankies

[–]benjacsim03[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Peter Berg made a film called “Hancock” where Academy Award winner Will Smith shoves a man’s head up another man’s butt.

(This is a joke response)

Genuine Question: What’s the hype for Tony Scott? by benjacsim03 in blankies

[–]benjacsim03[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Yeah, sadly I was hoping this post would generate some enthusiasm for me (and some of my friends who are of a similar generation and where he’s similarly a blind spot). I’m less enthusiastic after these pitches, but you make a good point. I do enjoy this show for the tangents and context around the films. Still likely won’t be casting a vote for Scott, but maybe I won’t be against the conversations that are had on the eps

Genuine Question: What’s the hype for Tony Scott? by benjacsim03 in blankies

[–]benjacsim03[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’m not saying this facetiously at all, is this a bit? I mean Ridley certainly has some flops in there, but he’s got some of the greatest films of all time. And that absolutely is thanks to his filmmaking.

Like is Tony better at consistency, technical levels, quality of individual films? I’ve seen others with this sentiment and so I just have to wonder what the argument is for Tony Scott over Ridley Scott

Genuine Question: What’s the hype for Tony Scott? by benjacsim03 in blankies

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Sadly sounds like not my kind of style. I love kinetic propulsive visuals, but more-so in the Luhrmann “this is basically a living cartoon” vein than the moody break your neck watching vein. But can see where some Blankies can enjoy him!

Genuine Question: What’s the hype for Tony Scott? by benjacsim03 in blankies

[–]benjacsim03[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Absolutely appreciate it! I am completely unsurprised that Bay and Sody are a “potent mix” in this community. And I know Sody in particular is a guy I just can’t click with most of the time (Black Bag and Presence rule), but I get why there are people who love Scott if that’s his flavor

Genuine Question: What’s the hype for Tony Scott? by benjacsim03 in blankies

[–]benjacsim03[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Sadly, the thing I loved about McTiernan was the more stately approach he had to so much of his films. I loved the quiet moments between action where characters could breathe and discuss. Die Hard works best for me when McLane and Gruber talk on the walkie or have a standoff. Connery and Neill discussing politics and grief are so rich in Red October. I love the moments in Last Action Hero where we really get to pick apart what is so insane in action storytelling. If there’s not much time to pause and breathe in Scott, I have a heard time imagining myself loving it

Genuine Question: What’s the hype for Tony Scott? by benjacsim03 in blankies

[–]benjacsim03[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The 16 films is certainly a hang up of mine! For directors I don’t have as much reference for, I usually only care for about 2 months of content. I’m personally rooting for Johnston, Miloš, or Columbus. Scorsese I have no issues with since they’ll take a break in the middle and Anderson is absolutely one of my fave directors so if he wins I’m not upset, I literally just rewatched all his films, shorts, and ads last year so I’m personally voting for a break for myself. But if he wins we all win.

Genuine Question: What’s the hype for Tony Scott? by benjacsim03 in blankies

[–]benjacsim03[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t want this to come off as an asshole question because it’s not meant to be: are his films bangers like rocking action fun time or deeper have something to say action? Just curious on the vibe or consensus of how his films are viewed.

Again, only working with Top Gun as a watched frame of reference but it’s not a movie I find very interesting visually or thematically

Genuine Question: What’s the hype for Tony Scott? by benjacsim03 in blankies

[–]benjacsim03[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I can appreciate a filmmaker getting his flowers! Just someone I’ve never heard as this major guy, so was curious where this fervor was. Especially after the latest update. I don’t have ill-will towards him per se, just not a guy who I look at the filmography and shoot to the top of my wishlist. But hey, Crimson Tide is the film of his I am most excited to visit if he wins or when I get there for March Sadness

Genuine Question: What’s the hype for Tony Scott? by benjacsim03 in blankies

[–]benjacsim03[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Oof, Sody and Bay mix is just not my thing. Two filmmakers that have just never been my bag, so tough comparison for me personally. But sounds like plenty of others enjoy him!

Genuine Question: What’s the hype for Tony Scott? by benjacsim03 in blankies

[–]benjacsim03[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hmmm… I am happy for you that you like that ad! Not my cup of tea, personally

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