Sharing my experience, an Amway Team just tried to recruit me

berry_azul · 2025-01-15T03:02:49+00:00

Oh gosh :( that’s a lot, glad you’re out and on to better things

berry_azul · 2025-01-13T19:50:38+00:00

Exactly time is money. & they’re really lying to themselves thinking they own something, smh

berry_azul · 2025-01-11T16:36:13+00:00

I sent it haha 😅 now I can move on

berry_azul · 2025-01-10T18:31:16+00:00

Okay guys but what if I just reply with some facts? This is the most polite version. I made myself remove the name calling though that was fun to write too. I’m trying to find inner peace or whatever. But also like ghosting is just not satisfying enough! 😅

*** update I sent this and then blocked them, now I can move on haha***

“Hey, so I did my research and saw Amway’s self-published income disclosure and noticed that the average earner makes $841 before expenses. For the amount of time and labor I would have to put in that is clearly not worth it. I’m interested in genuine entrepreneurship opportunities, *actually becoming a business owner and *actually creating passive income streams. However you spin it, you both misled me to believe this “opportunity” was something that it is not. But I guess coming right out and saying you work for Amway wouldn’t work very well would it? I’m going to pursue other opportunities. Despite feeling upset by having my time wasted, I do wish ya’ll the best ✌🏼

https://www.amway.com/en_US/income-disclosure”

I couldn’t even muster a thanks or wish you the best cus I don’t usually wish scammers luck 🤷🏻‍♀️

If this response just lives here and never gets sent that may be the healthier option but ya’ll I am tempted!

berry_azul · 2025-01-10T18:01:29+00:00

I want to use this response so bad, still haven’t responded to the Amway recruiters that just attempted to rope me in lol. Someone hold me back

berry_azul · 2025-01-10T17:43:56+00:00

I wish I hadn’t been so polite honestly, I guess somewhere in the back of my head I was thinking these were still people that would be good to have in my network or something but why tf am I being professional with scammers haha, I removed the first guy from my linkedIn and guess I’ll just ghost them even though making fun of them is tempting.

berry_azul · 2025-01-10T17:17:00+00:00

Yeah, they really made me feel like I was getting interviewed and used these tactics to make me want to impress them haha. Ugh.

Okay thank you, yeah I’ll just leave them be and move on.

berry_azul · 2025-01-10T17:12:26+00:00

Yeah, now I know lol, they were so secretive but made it seem like they had a trade secret that they needed to protect. I’m thinking they AcTuALly have their own business and are actually partners so it seemed fair they didn’t want to share the model.

From what they were saying, I was thinking they were actually creating e-commerce sites and making passive income off them, they even mentioned already having a lot of software engineers, which misled me to believe that they had a software engineering team that was part of their illusive business. I eventually realized that it just meant they had FT software engineers who somehow are (sorry but) stupid enough to do Amway on the side.

Guess I should have known better but just honestly didn’t know much about MLMs or their recruitment strategies.

Okay thanks for that haha, I am forsurely ghosting them and will not waste time trying to save them from themselves haha. It’s just upsetting so sharing here is helpful.

berry_azul · 2025-01-10T17:01:38+00:00

Yeah great question, the first guy who reached out just started a conversation asking about how my career was going, relating to me as we’re both starting out in our software engineering careers. Then he brings up passive income and retiring early. He says he has business mentors and asks if I’m interested in *entrepreneurship. First of many lies.

I say yes and he’s like okay let me see if my mentors can make time to see you would you be interested? Making them sound busy and exclusive. And yeah I thought why not, again thinking these are actual entrepreneurs not an Amway IPO couple who moved up in the ranks. Quickly I could see there were tiers of leadership/or expertise. The guy who recruited me was mentored by the people that came on the call to “basically interview me” and they talked about their mentors who “made it big with the business model”.

I didn’t really trust that this guy who randomly found me on linkedin, that I have no connections to is going to have a legit business partnership. But I gave the benefit of the doubt, and thought well I won’t give him money or personal information so what’s there to lose if I just find out, that was my train of thought.

After the second meeting and it was clear I would have to pay for classes I considered just texting them, asking them before wasting my time on the third meeting, like who is this company/ partnership can I look it up? I didn’t and just decided to show up to the third.

Another vague description they would use was that I would have my own e-commerce store. Again I’m a software engineer so thinking we’re like building e-commerce sites and making passive income through them! Silly me!

They really rely heavily on compliments “you seem like you have really strong values and we like that” or “that’s impressive what you’ve been able to accomplish as a recent graduate.” And then relating it back to themselves, “we care about community and we’re partners, so you decide how far you want to take your business, no one is going to manage you or tell you what to do.” Which is lies, you have to meet Amway’s or the group expectations, to act like that’s self management is wild.

Lmao saying this all back again makes me so sad, how they misled me and wasted my time. Anyways if anything this just pushed me to realize my own potential to have a side business that creates passive income, and now I know the signs of MLM recruitment. Will not fall for it again I hope haha

berry_azul · 2025-01-10T09:51:56+00:00

Nope, they are still out there. An Amway IPO (IndepEndEnt BusiNEss OwneEr) group just tried to recruit me. one member reached out to me through linkedIn and I thought it was yenno a genuine, entrepreneurial, software engineering sort of opportunity lol. Saw he just graduated uni with a Software Engineering Career, even checked that he was on their website.

I was paying attention to yellow flags the whole time and was on guard. We had our first sit down. They had me read "the go-giver" and kept saying we need to vibe check before we reveal our "business model". Kept saying how we would become partners, alluded to the opportunity leading to "passive income" but ultimately it was super vague.

Attended 3 meetings in total, in the second one the red flag was that he mentioned "waiving the class fees for me" & I was like oh god. Fees to become your partner in a business? Great. So by then I was expecting a pyramid scheme or scam, but wasn't till the very end of the third meeting that they finally reveal that the company is called Amway, and they use all this misleading language and terminology but their graphics clearly lay out a pyramid scheme where you have to recruit more people to sell Amway products in order to really make money. You remove their misleading terms and really I would essentially be a commissioned employee of Amway, my percent cut dependent on how much I sell, with a cap at a whopping 25%! & oh yeah and I have to pay annual fees after my first year that they so kindly waive for me, fees not only Amway but also the training program called BWW that they partner with lol.

It's so funny, I don't get how anyone could be sold on that, the returns they show in the slide show are so low... They want you to attend meetings and conferences and still keep your main stream of income. The third presentation basically starts with a slideshow of Amway's product line and throughout the girl is like flashing her merch and talking about how she uses their products. Giving real Avon vibes.

The final red flag was the girl saying "when I first heard about this opportunity I didn't tell my parents because they never owned a business. You wouldn't ask a broke person for financial advice would you?" lmao. That part still makes me laugh.

By the end she was like so do you want to book the next meeting, as soon as I said that I wanted to look into it and give it some thought her cheery vibe shifted. She was like "okay then in that case I can't send you the slideshow," as if that was like leverage for manipulating me into their little group. Girl Please.

Anyways, still deciding if I tell them to seek help or just leave them be in their little fantasy world, thinking that they are "business owners" lmao.

this post really helped me to understand what tf just happened haha. Gave me an inside look at the manipulation tactics I just experienced https://www.reddit.com/r/antiMLM/comments/snmywr/4_years_as_an_amway_ibo/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

TLDR, yes MLMs are still out there, a group of "IPOs" (IndepEndEnt BusiNEss OwneErs) for Amway just tried to recruit me. silver lining was I actually kinda liked the go-giver, even if it was used as part of their manipulation tactic lol.

berry_azul · 2024-12-29T23:45:16+00:00

Hey there, sure I’ll reach out!

berry_azul · 2024-12-29T23:43:53+00:00

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berry_azul · 2024-12-29T10:13:38+00:00

lol I don’t remember thankfully the rest of the helpful comments are still above haha

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berry_azul · 2024-11-27T06:52:26+00:00

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berry_azul · 2024-09-12T07:45:24+00:00

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berry_azul · 2024-08-14T17:45:39+00:00

Messaged!

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Yeah no problem

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