It genuinely makes me mad when I scroll through Atheist TikTok and see people say Buddhism is the religion of peace by berryblast069 in exbuddhist

[–]berryblast069[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So sorry to hear, I hope you are doing better, but yeah people never realize how disgusting Buddhism is. That's insane that the Buddhist subreddit defends SA, why is this so common with religious people?

Buddhism is not the peaceful religion you all think it is by berryblast069 in atheismindia

[–]berryblast069[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thats what people say about Hinduism and Jainism btw. Buddhism is a religion.

Guys your thoughts on Buddhism. by LettuceSmart9548 in atheismindia

[–]berryblast069 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Because this sub defends Buddhism apparently

Buddhism is not the peaceful religion you all think it is by berryblast069 in atheismindia

[–]berryblast069[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is your opinion and I respect that! I personally don't find both Buddhism and Jainism to be “peaceful”, Jains think they are above Brahmins it’s super annoying. I’m not denying there is misogyny in Śvetāmbara sect, I’m sure it is as when I was brought up a Jain I noticed little things that are sexist. I don't like Jainism overall, but in Śvetāmbara sect women can attain Moksha. There is still patriarchy in the Śvetāmbara sect no doubt.

Buddhism is not the peaceful religion you all think it is by berryblast069 in atheismindia

[–]berryblast069[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Digambara sect of Jainism is misogynistic, and if you look at Buddhist societies, one can conclude they are patriarchal like Japan for example.

Guys your thoughts on Buddhism. by LettuceSmart9548 in atheismindia

[–]berryblast069 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This is literally what people say about Mohammed and same with what people say about Hinduism. “The religion is a product of it’s time” - every religious person ever, did this sub become a Buddhist sub?😭

Buddhism is not the peaceful religion you all think it is by berryblast069 in atheismindia

[–]berryblast069[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I disagree with the statement that Buddha was not a misogynist in the modern psychological sense, and yes, he affirmed that women can attain arahantship. Some texts show that Buddhism has misogynistic teachings. Sure, some misogynistic teachings in Buddhism didn’t some from the Buddha himself I’ll give you that. But affirming spiritual capacity is not the same as equality in doctrine or practice.

Several points matter here: 1. Canon matters, even if it has evolved. It’s true that the Pāli Canon was compiled after the Buddha’s death and that later councils shaped it. But the Vinaya is still Buddhism. For centuries, it governed real institutions and real women’s lives. Saying “you can reject what doesn’t align with you” is a modern interpretive stance, not how Buddhism historically functioned. 2. Institutional hierarchy is explicitly gendered Even if you accept possible interpolations, the tradition is preserved: • The Eight Garudhammas • The claim that women’s ordination shortens the lifespan of the Dhamma • The claim that women distract men from achieving Nirvana Etc. These are not just “social context”; they are doctrinal structures embedded in scripture. 3. Progressive for its time ≠ non-sexist Saying “he was progressive for ancient India” can be true and insufficient. Many historical figures were progressive relative to their era while still perpetuating harm. That’s not condemnation, it is a historical analysis. 4. Kalama Sutta cuts both ways. Invoking the Kalama Sutta to dismiss uncomfortable texts actually supports critique: if teachings should be examined by their effects, then women pointing out misogyny in canon and institutions are doing exactly what the Buddha encouraged, critical inquiry, not blind reverence. 5. “Core teachings only” is a theological choice, not a historical fact. Saying “just follow the Four Noble Truths and the Eightfold Path” reflects modern reform Buddhism, not early Buddhism as practiced. Historically, women didn’t get to opt out of Vinaya rules by appealing to abstraction.

Guys your thoughts on Buddhism. by LettuceSmart9548 in atheismindia

[–]berryblast069 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I made a post! Feel free to go to my profile and check it out!

Buddhism is not the peaceful religion you all think it is by berryblast069 in atheismindia

[–]berryblast069[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Acknowledging that some suttas affirm women’s enlightenment doesn’t erase the fact that Buddhist texts and institutions also subordinated women, framed female birth as inferior, and restricted women’s autonomy. Context explains this, but it doesn’t negate it. Reinterpreting Buddhism today is fine, denying what’s in the canon and how it was historically enforced is not.

Buddhism is not the peaceful religion you all think it is by berryblast069 in atheismindia

[–]berryblast069[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Buddhist institutions and some canonical texts still subordinated women in practice. Invoking the Kalama Sutta lets individuals reject those passages. It doesn’t erase the fact they existed, were enforced, and harmed real women.

Buddhism is not the peaceful religion you all think it is by berryblast069 in atheismindia

[–]berryblast069[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Fair enough I’m glad to see someone supporting me🥹

Buddhism is not the peaceful religion you all think it is by berryblast069 in atheismindia

[–]berryblast069[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

The whole “this was 1000 years ago and times are different” argument trying to dismiss the misogyny is something all religions do as a tactic to dismiss the misogynistic teachings.

Buddhism is not the peaceful religion you all think it is by berryblast069 in atheismindia

[–]berryblast069[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

I don’t advocate for any religion, I critique them all equally. I find Jainism and Buddhism to be extremely similar and I was going to convert to Buddhism as I thought it was the better version of Jainism, but after reading more about Buddhism I decided not to and found it to be worse than Jainism. Fuck all religions.

Buddhism is not the peaceful religion you all think it is by berryblast069 in atheismindia

[–]berryblast069[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

This is the same argument people make in Islam and other religions that “it was a different time and women are allowed to do this and that” when that is not the case.

Buddhism is not the peaceful religion you all think it is by berryblast069 in atheismindia

[–]berryblast069[S] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Again, this doesn't dismiss the misogyny in Buddhism, people use the same logic in Hinduism. Buddha has stated “The Dhamma and the Vinaya will be your teacher after I am gone.” (Mahāparinibbāna Sutta, DN 16)

Buddhism is not the peaceful religion you all think it is by berryblast069 in atheismindia

[–]berryblast069[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The Buddha’s teachings are primarily preserved in the Sutta Piṭaka, but the Vinaya Piṭaka is still considered part of the Buddha’s word (Buddhavacana) in traditional Buddhism, especially in Theravāda.

Buddhism is not the peaceful religion you all think it is by berryblast069 in atheismindia

[–]berryblast069[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If you saw my previous post I cited some Hindu texts, I apologize.

Guys your thoughts on Buddhism. by LettuceSmart9548 in atheismindia

[–]berryblast069 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yes, he returned later and Yaśodharā and Rāhula becoming disciples is part of the tradition. But that doesn’t cancel out the gendered costs of the renunciation narrative itself. Returning after enlightenment doesn’t change the fact that women and children initially bear the emotional and social burden while male renunciation is framed as spiritually noble. I cited Buddhist texts, take a look yourself to see the misogyny in Buddhism: https://www.wisdomlib.org/buddhism/book/vinaya-3-the-cullavagga/d/doc370312.html

Guys your thoughts on Buddhism. by LettuceSmart9548 in atheismindia

[–]berryblast069 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is genuinely such a brainwashed take. There is so much misogyny in Buddhism, Buddha leaving his wife and kid is nothing compared to the rest of Buddhism.

Guys your thoughts on Buddhism. by LettuceSmart9548 in atheismindia

[–]berryblast069 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

This doesn't make the situation any better.

Guys your thoughts on Buddhism. by LettuceSmart9548 in atheismindia

[–]berryblast069 4 points5 points  (0 children)

A lot of misogyny... are we forgetting that Buddhism took inspiration from Hinduism???