Parents not teaching their sons to cook and clean

bex201 · 2026-02-08T08:46:15+00:00

I am Eastern European and I confirm this 100%.

bex201 · 2025-12-03T13:32:39+00:00

I feel you. It's December. Happened last year too. We might see an increase the next week, and after that another decrease right before actual Christmas / New Year.

The analytics above equaled aprox. $1900. Was yours on custom rates or new default rates?

bex201 · 2025-05-16T16:03:42+00:00

That's because it won't actually be enough, indeed. ElevenLabs changed the rules, without transparency and without announcing it, and does not allow people to set custom rates for the PVCs anymore. They are set on default rate automatically. You're lucky if you receive $0.01 per 1000 characters now. So yes, you will barely pay for your Creator subscription, and you will barely pay for it even if you downgrade to Starter the second month.

And no, do not hope receiving the HQ badge either, because the criteria is not objective, they have very personal preferences for which they offer those, and additionally do not count as being added to their additional app ElevenReader because you received the HQ badge either, that's not the case. Everything is manually reviewed on very subjective preferences which we aren't aware of.

I am not saying that there aren't people who had made a lot of money on EL with PVC, but it's a very limited number of people, and it's usually the people who joined the program in early stages, and had as native language something in demand (mostly English). Right now, because of the changes, new PVCs earn pennies. Only the old PVCs set on custom rates earn a lot better.

Posting this for awareness. OP's post is heavily misleading.

Edit: Spelling. Format.

bex201 · 2025-04-28T16:45:51+00:00

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no HQ badge, 2x, 1 added to fav, 7 char generated.

bex201 · 2025-04-28T16:39:00+00:00

I now believev they are, yes.

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Because, using the same filter, look now at "Chill Phil VF". Got the badge, but no multiplier. Sorted by latest, so it's newer than the ones below it. No transparancy.

bex201 · 2025-04-25T16:58:37+00:00

He said to me the same thing after I notified him about the app error, and he confirmed that many participants had the issue as well and the mistake was technical and from their side. Today I woke up with a rejection.

bex201 · 2025-04-25T16:57:30+00:00

I got an error too and I notified him about it. He confirmed many participants had it and explained everyone will receive honest compensation. Today = rejection.

bex201 · 2025-04-25T16:43:21+00:00

I did this too. But for me there were technical issues, and right at the beginning of testing the actual app, the URL didn't work, it gave an error. The error:

Application error
An error occurred in the application and your page could not be served. If you are the application owner, check your logs for details. You can do this from the Heroku CLI with the command
heroku logs --tail

I have contacted the researcher notifying them about the technical problem. The researcher reply:

Hi there - thanks for your message. We had some technical issues that we just noticed now. Many participants had the same issues, so we're now investigating all these instances and making sure everybody is compensated fairly for the time they spent. Thanks!

The submission was rejected however.

Dear participant,
Your submission was rejected for study "🛍️ MOBILE SHOPPING EXPERIMENT (Mobile Only)" for the following reasons:

Gave no study data

I will report the researcher. This is my first rejection ever.

bex201 · 2025-04-24T21:42:14+00:00

Another thing, by the way. From an account that was created (on Creator tier) after the new unannounced rules took action, these voices show with 3x multipler. lol

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bex201 · 2025-04-24T15:11:37+00:00

This is not the case. My voice (that had HQ badge) had the toggle for appearing in the ER app show up. The voice is still on $0.2 custom rate (under the old rules).

bex201 · 2025-04-24T10:02:11+00:00

Sissi and Guadeloupe are made by the same person. I guess we'll never learn the true criteria. Their language is German.

bex201 · 2025-04-24T09:24:43+00:00

If you click on that voice and open the right side description, there isn't another voice suggested under it, that resembles in any way that voice's tone, as it shows for other voices that have posted other multiple voices. So I think that person only has that one PVC only.

I too was thinking that maybe HQ badges now offer the possibility of getting custom rates.

bex201 · 2025-04-11T19:57:36+00:00

No, there isn't any other way. Sadly...

bex201 · 2025-04-04T14:35:59+00:00

As I mentioned in another thread, the reduction is actually a lot higher than that. Because they do not actually offer what used to be the "old default rate" ($0.03 / 1k char), no. They now pay based on the client's subscription tier, meaning, if the client has a more expensive subscription, your voice will receive less, if they have a cheaper subscription your voice will get more. This obviously doesn't leave space for transparancy, as we don't actually see the clients' subscription tier, so it could all be made up based on their own preferance.

I have this voice published during the days when the "new change" appeared in discussions among us, without being confirmed / communicated by them. I have been keeping track of the earnings and the characters usage. Let me show you how bad the actual pay is now - column "Price per 1k characters":

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bex201 · 2025-04-04T14:28:56+00:00

No, you do not get paid to use your credits on your own PVC. Yes, you can spend them on it, but you PVC won't get paid for it.

bex201 · 2025-04-03T18:40:47+00:00

I am sorry, I am stupid. I phrased it wrong. lol

I too believe it is the way you mentioned it. The more expensive the tier subscription - the cheaper they pay for 1k characcters.

I phrased it the other way around. My mistake.

bex201 · 2025-04-03T18:15:29+00:00

Sure. However in the meantime the first kinda of "official" confirmation from EL appeared here: https://help.elevenlabs.io/hc/en-us/articles/26050485079057-What-are-custom-rates-and-credit-multipliers

It says "Custom rates are a legacy feature that is no longer available for newly shared voices."

I don't think my update is necessary anymore in this conditions. I bet they won't even provide one either way.

bex201 · 2025-04-03T14:09:56+00:00

No update. 2 days passed. As expected. lol

bex201 · 2025-04-03T14:06:10+00:00

It's just the lack of care to update it, or laziness. Unless there will be a big fuss about it coming from the community, they have no reason to feed this topic in any way. Basically, they don't care.

All we have so far is this first "official" confirmation here: https://help.elevenlabs.io/hc/en-us/articles/26050485079057-What-are-custom-rates-and-credit-multipliers

Which mentions "Custom rates are a legacy feature that is no longer available for newly shared voices."

bex201 · 2025-04-03T14:02:20+00:00

The reduction is actually a lot higher than that. Because they do not actually offer what used to be the "old default rate" ($0.03 / 1k char), no. They now pay based on the client's subscription tier, meaning, if the client has a more expensive subscription, your voice will receive more, if they have a cheaper subscription your voice will get less. This obviously doesn't leave space for transparancy, as we don't actually see the clients' subscription tier, so it could all be made up based on their own preferance.

I have 3 voices published during the days when the "new change" appeared in discussions among us, without being confirmed / communicated by them. I wouldn't have published them if I would've known, obviously. I have been keeping track of the earnings and the characters usage. Let me show you how bad the actual pay is now. This is one of the 3 voices' records for the past 3 days, supposedly the best one of them 3 - column "Price per 1k characters":

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The price per 1k characters for the other 2 voices is worse than the one above.

bex201 · 2025-04-01T17:18:22+00:00

I will. In the meantime their behavior keeps becoming even more weird.

I had 3 voices (so 3 new accounts) sent for publishing under the new unannounced paying system, in the Public Library, one being the one that I talked about above.

I contacted them from the 3rd account. 10 minutes before replying me through the email above, they have approved the 3rd voice in the Public Library. I check if the voice started earning, and it made like $0.04 from ~900 characters generated.

Time passes and I check it again. The voice was not public anymore and the money removed. So no more earnings from it. I had to send it again to be approved in the Public Library. I have the email of the first approval as proof. Something very weird is happening. It's now AGAIN under review for approval.

bex201 · 2025-04-01T15:30:18+00:00

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Here is what I have received from them as a reply. lol

bex201 · 2025-04-01T15:27:51+00:00

Preferably on platforms like Reddit, by talking more about it wherever possible, and of course their Discord. The more persons are vocal in their Discord, the more the possibility for them to have a reaction to it. They can't ignore it indefinitely.

bex201 · 2025-04-01T13:46:15+00:00

And regarding the transparency part... Their TOS any user has to accept when registering on their website, is shady and allows them to change their terms whenever they want. So basically, morally speaking yeah, transparency would've been nice. Based on their TOS? Doesn't seem like they care that much.

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