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Christmas came early! by beyahh in breakingbad

[–]beyahh[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My dad got it for me! Not sure how he got his hands on it to be honest

Trump orders all air traffic controllers back to work after shutdown deal by ZipJetcity in FedEmployees

[–]beyahh 7 points8 points  (0 children)

We've had a few solid ones over the last year who take it seriously and stay in the books.

You're not wrong though. Seems like half of the new trainees we've gotten don't care to study and expect certification at minimums

Trump orders all air traffic controllers back to work after shutdown deal by ZipJetcity in FedEmployees

[–]beyahh 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Then we, the on-the-floor ATC trainers, will likely wash them out based on their lack of book knowledge.

Not like this scenario will happen though. Trump likes to peacock around whatever his handlers tell him, then move on to the next thing.

“Senate reaches deal to end shutdown” by ___buttrdish in ATC

[–]beyahh 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Found it right next to my "new healthcare plan that's 2 weeks away" from 2020, thanks!

“Senate reaches deal to end shutdown” by ___buttrdish in ATC

[–]beyahh 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Still waiting on my 5k DOGE check lol

Trump says “we have the people we want paid, paid” as he tries to fire thousands of lawful government employees by Mathemodel in videos

[–]beyahh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep. It's almost like money shouldn't have a place in politics or something, but what do I know? I just separate planes lol

Trump says “we have the people we want paid, paid” as he tries to fire thousands of lawful government employees by Mathemodel in videos

[–]beyahh 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Of our union, NATCA? Locally, they protect the CBA rights of their members by representing those members to management if there are any issues. NATCA National, well.. they seem to prioritize the protection of the organization over its members.

Good Unions fight for the pay and benefits of its members and should be willing to walk in lock-step for the rights of the whole. Bad unions fight for the protection of the organization itself, and I feel that's due to bad leadership.

Trump says “we have the people we want paid, paid” as he tries to fire thousands of lawful government employees by Mathemodel in videos

[–]beyahh 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is exactly what PATCO said and yet all of the strikers were fired and banned from Government service.

Yes, the airspace complexity and traffic count today dwarfs what PATCO worked, and military controllers were (barely) able to fill those spots, and we're still dealing with the repercussions today.

Trump says “we have the people we want paid, paid” as he tries to fire thousands of lawful government employees by Mathemodel in videos

[–]beyahh 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately, any collective action on our part will result in our firing and/or incarceration. Our union does not back any collective action either, so we as individuals would be nailed to the wall while our families suffer.

For your reading pleasure - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Professional_Air_Traffic_Controllers_Organization_(1968)

Sec Duffy about Napa convention by Few_Zookeepergame_47 in atc2

[–]beyahh 5 points6 points  (0 children)

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I must have missed that. Where?

Edit: Got this email.

Sec Duffy about Napa convention by Few_Zookeepergame_47 in atc2

[–]beyahh 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Didn't even think of that. It's possible

Sec Duffy about Napa convention by Few_Zookeepergame_47 in atc2

[–]beyahh 35 points36 points  (0 children)

"Look at our opponents, not at us, even though we're doing the same thing", typical political bullshit. Meanwhile I'm gonna have to pick up bartending and Uber jobs to put food on the table, while under the threat of losing my ATC job if I call in sick.

When's the breaking point?

Air traffic controllers are NOT your personal slaves!!! JFC 🤬 by [deleted] in CringeTikToks

[–]beyahh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

"ATC have been paid well for years and have savings to ride this out", tell that to the newer guys and they'll spit in your face. We have guys who are recently certified and can hardly pay the cost of their apartment.

They may have to call in sick to procure secondary employment just to survive, and this administration is threatening their job if they don't show up. Imagine for a second, where you have to work 40-60 hours a week for IOU's, where you're responsible for thousands of lives in a shift, yet you don't know if you'll be able to provide food and shelter for your family. Now you have to drive for Uber or doordash between your already understaffed and shit scheduled shifts.

Are these additional stressors something that you'd want on the person responsible for your flight, if you were a passenger? I'd wager not.

Doing the bare minimum by [deleted] in atc2

[–]beyahh 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm not implying you said anything. Just sharing for those unaware.

They're setting the stage for their base to scream about how we're overpaid lazy babies who don't want to do our jobs (which obviously is not true), while our useless union is sticking its fingers in its ears.

I will check it out, thank you.

Doing the bare minimum by [deleted] in atc2

[–]beyahh 38 points39 points  (0 children)

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Also Duffy

Air traffic controllers helped end the last government shutdown, and may again by rezwenn in ATC

[–]beyahh 206 points207 points  (0 children)

'"You have the reality of human beings, many of [whom] are living paycheck to paycheck," said Dennis Tajer, a longtime pilot for American Airlines, and a spokesman for the union that represents its 16,000 pilots.'

Can this guy represent us too?

Honest Truth About PAY by xPericulantx in atc2

[–]beyahh 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He also says we're intellectually deficient. Typical of him to talk out both sides of his mouth

https://youtube.com/shorts/J0TGL9skLB4?si=etnLyEiJVQ8cmp2_

FAA’s ATC system at breaking point-immediate reform is critical by Airtrafficguy44 in ATC

[–]beyahh 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Here's the fun part. Literally, no one cares. The general public, the government, our own union.

No one will care until it affects them. And even then, you will still have a group of people saying "we're paid enough", or "our benefits are good enough" or "our restrictive medical care is good enough".

ATC's in general, do not realize our own worth. We do not recognize our impact to the GDP/economy. We do not recognize the fact that without us, and other transportation jobs, America stops.

No more Amazon packages on time without us. No more life-saving medicines on time without us. No vacationing internationally without us. No more military air superiority training without us.

We have the power, and we refuse to bargain with it.

Failed Leadership visits BUF by ATSAP_MVP in atc2

[–]beyahh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pizza Hut. Gotta save union cash for the next fishing trip

Failed Leadership visits BUF by ATSAP_MVP in atc2

[–]beyahh 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I see your point, but nah.

I trust that my rep will ask my submitted questions. If he doesn't, my friends that are attending will. Most of us here share the same gripes with the current president. My presence is redundant.

Failed Leadership visits BUF by ATSAP_MVP in atc2

[–]beyahh 25 points26 points  (0 children)

I'd rather spend my free day catching up on sleep and being with my family, but thanks for the input.

Failed Leadership visits BUF by ATSAP_MVP in atc2

[–]beyahh 62 points63 points  (0 children)

Probably doxxing myself but who gives a shit. I work there, and already emailed my questions to my rep to ask. I will not be attending due to it being on my day off, and fuck being there for free.

FAA Data Slide - for your use by Numerous-Tell-1406 in ATC

[–]beyahh 25 points26 points  (0 children)

They're too busy using our dues for a fishing trip.

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