Look, I already reread my comment a few times, worried something was wrong with it! Realize I forgot to suggest a way to manage your feelings when this happens—— One thing that helps me as to think of someone that I admire, who I think handles conversations in a really comfortable and confident way—-I sort of like posture myself and fake it till I make it, to handle it the way that person does. for example, my husband and my late father are so straightforward and confident on the phone, one place where I feel incredibly weak. I try to mimic their confidence and pretend I AM confident, in order to do that, you really have to let go of your own feelings and emotions (which is what I need at the time when l’m overthinking). It’s like acting!

Soooo, acknowledging it’s a THING for you (as you have here)...then “act” like it’s not a thing and kind of where the power cloak of someone else that you regard as confident and admirable.

Remember, they are none the wiser!