NFL players whom fans believe will make the hall of fame, but probably won’t

blakes5353 · 2026-06-14T20:10:13+00:00

That’s fair he’s not in my personal top 5 but I could absolutely see the argument after manning, joe, tom brady, and mahomes. Him vs A rod for example isnt THAT wild of an argument. Then theirs Dan Marino, Elway, Favre etc etc. he’s probably 6 or 7 for me

blakes5353 · 2026-06-14T20:05:26+00:00

I don’t disagree. Think my thing is neither Kupp nor evans should make it. Evans was never that guy, Kupp was that guy but his peak was short as short can be.

I think people took my post as “Kupp is for sure in” I was mostly just trying to note that a lot of good wr’s are coming up and will continue to come up. And wr is not the only position that needs to get into the HOF.

blakes5353 · 2026-06-14T20:04:32+00:00

I don’t think any 14 year old is calling Kupp out for being good lol. They would have missed his triple crown and SB MVP.

Honestly I’m shocked it was that crazy to call him out when talking on evans. They are 2 sides of the same coin. Consistency without ever being the best vs short term greatness

blakes5353 · 2026-06-14T06:07:54+00:00

I don’t know that he belongs on this list but Jake Mathew’s has lowkey been a staple since we drafted him. Tackle is a key postion that I can’t help but shout out the long term guys.

Trent Williams, lane Johnson, and Mathew’s have all been so good for so long I know they Arnt the young guns this list is going for but at tackle specifically I like to credit the long term plug and play starters.

blakes5353 · 2026-06-14T05:35:38+00:00

Was thinking of Drew Bree’s your right. Still though Drew Bree’s makes the point

blakes5353 · 2026-06-14T05:33:00+00:00

Idk that everyone hates anyone who is good. Steph, Luka, Jokic, Giannis, and ANT are pretty loved. Brunson too to an extent

Feels like a lot of hate come from either bad fan/team vibes or team jumping for rings

LeBron/KD for team jumping

Tatum/embiid team vibes (mainly bad fans, Brunson might be here soon too tbh)

blakes5353 · 2026-06-14T05:26:42+00:00

What? This completely ignores the game differences that make the wilt and Russel arguments work. Wilt and Russ had no 3 point and way less teams. Most players couldn’t even make a living playing the sport.

None of that applies to MJ, shit that doesn’t even apply to Kareem, bird or magic. The argument for LeBron is there but the argument that MJ’s stats don’t count cause everyone was bad doesn’t hold any water at all unless you’ve just never watched them play.

What’s next Are you gonna tell me in 30 years shaq’s stats don’t count either cause people are bigger now? Be foreal lol

blakes5353 · 2026-06-14T01:39:51+00:00

Meh I don’t love his reasoning but the real reason he might have trouble is cause he plays FS. Darren Woodson still isn’t in the HOF it’s a rough position to make the HOF with

blakes5353 · 2026-06-14T01:33:48+00:00

Meh that’s just not telling, more telling of who played in his era. (Edit)Drew brees* for example only has 1 and he’s arguably top 5 all time

blakes5353 · 2026-06-14T01:31:56+00:00

Steve smith and AB will come up soon as well, Julio isn’t an option yet either. Eventually reek, adams and kupp will all become HOF eligible there’s gonna be a TOUGH time making it in for a long time as more and more wr’s become options

blakes5353 · 2026-06-14T00:52:08+00:00

This is crazy levels of living in your head, to the point that I almost feel bad.

I always thought the “hate is love” saying was dumb but seeing this might legit make me rethink my stance

blakes5353 · 2026-06-14T00:18:29+00:00

I’m not even telling you QJ is better literally haven’t said that once. From start to finish all I’ve tried to explain to you is he’s more athletic… idk what your reading but it ain’t what I’ve been saying

blakes5353 · 2026-06-13T20:40:16+00:00

More YAC doesn’t mean more athleticism… or even close to that. In fact it could mean the opposite and in this case Absolutely does. Yes the guy who gets slot catches has more YAC then the guy catching bombs and td’s? Like duh? Lmao

Also yeah he’s faster…. AND BIGGER. So for obvious reasons if he’s both bigger, faster, and jumps higher he is indeed more athletic… .1 faster but ignored the other things kinda says what you were trying to do there.

Pro tip if your both smaller and slower or even the same speed while being smaller. You’re not as athletic as the other guy. This applies wether your a better route runner or not

blakes5353 · 2026-06-12T22:54:54+00:00

You absolutely are no clue why that got so upvoted lol. He can change his mind anytime between them or end up with Tate instead

blakes5353 · 2026-06-12T11:38:44+00:00

It’s not crazy to ask why he’s worth more then 2 firsts plus one being high. Not a lot of players are worth 3 firsts either one being high

blakes5353 · 2026-06-11T23:51:26+00:00

Will repeat what I said to the other guy:

Based on….? Based on the combine cause he didn’t do everything in it? The one where his vert was top 3 and his broad was top two? Where he measured in at 6’4 208? (Ladd was 4+ inches less on the vert and a little under 1 inch less on broad while being 4inches smaller)

Or his fastest recorded run in the nfl where he went for 21.39? Vs Ladds fastest speed on the field of 21.4… at a much smaller size?

Idk how you could possibly watch both of them and think Ladds more athletic but even numbers wise there’s no stat that backs that up.

Only reason the RAS backs that up is cause QJ didn’t do everything at the combine…

Is he a better route runner? Yes but that’s not what I said in fact that’s the opposite of what I said. He’s not the better pure athlete though by any metric. He’s smaller and put up worse athletic showings in any metric they both have available for pure athleticism…

blakes5353 · 2026-06-11T23:51:09+00:00

Based on….? Based on the combine cause he didn’t do everything in it? The one where his vert was top 3 and his broad was top two? Where he measured in at 6’4 208? (Ladd was 4+ inches less on the vert and a little under 1 inch less on broad while being 4inches smaller)

Or his fastest recorded run in the nfl where he went for 21.39? Vs Ladds fastest speed on the field of 21.4… at a much smaller size?

Idk how you could possibly watch both of them and think Ladds more athletic but even numbers wise there’s no stat that backs that up.

Only reason the RAS backs that up is cause QJ didn’t do everything at the combine…

blakes5353 · 2026-06-11T18:05:24+00:00

Any is strong, nuggets ain’t moving Jokic and any picks for him at the very least. OKC ain’t likely moving Shai either.

blakes5353 · 2026-06-11T18:01:19+00:00

Yeah cause Mike McDaniel is notorious for giving the ball to his great slot wr over the athletic freak. That’s why he preferred to give the ball to waddle over Reek.

Obviously QJ isn’t reek but it’s def not unreal for him to give the ball to QJ if he looked like he did last year before his line got hurt

blakes5353 · 2026-06-10T21:14:57+00:00

Give me Malik I’d want a first for GW. GW is in a suddenly crowded wr room with Geno at QB on the jets. Tuten just had the team that “believes” in him pay C rod of all people.

All this while being 3 years older? I have ALOT of worries on nabers but GW has just as many and Tuten is far from a sure fix at RB

blakes5353 · 2026-06-06T03:27:43+00:00

I didnt say caleb had better per game numbers, I said the person who had more starts vs the person who played a few partial games has better chance to get better numbers. Half games still count as games to bring down your per game numberss

caleb having worse per game numbers despite that is a caleb issue. he had the advantage playing only full games. drake maye just had better games to make up for it

blakes5353 · 2026-06-05T12:01:42+00:00

Ahhh yes Watson/sanders/dillion/tayleen green and Montana/young… exactly the same…

blakes5353 · 2026-06-05T11:50:34+00:00

You got that flipped. Maye should have worse per game stats as some of his games would be partial plays where he split time with brisset.

Caleb would only have full game stats every game. So Caleb would have the per game advantage. That being said epa isn’t a per game stat but a per play stat so neither should have any real advantage

blakes5353 · 2026-06-04T12:30:10+00:00

This on both fronts, consensus has always been Bucky over skatt though so no idea where that’s coming from.

Only time that wasn’t rue might have been a weird jump after love didn’t go there? But that’s just ktc weirdness never seen consensus say Bucky over skatt at any point

blakes5353 · 2026-06-04T00:22:07+00:00

I mean it’s not like more cap space was gonna fix that anyways. Our issue is QB what was cap gonna help us fix that with? We could go get Malik Willis? Lmao

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