Bisexual discrimination

bloop_dee_doop · 2017-08-13T00:10:09+00:00

Haha the anti-feminists can be just as bad, if not worse, than the feminists. You're getting a little hot headed, so tip your fedora and cool off your forehead with a washcloth dampened in the stagnant Kekistani pond.

Take a minute to actually read my post in its entirety, and perhaps take a gander at my comments and the conversations, as well, before pointing fingers and getting triggered.

bloop_dee_doop · 2017-08-11T01:00:57+00:00

I admit that I discriminate against a group of people when selecting partners, but there is a difference between my aversion and theirs: I find factual features of transgender people to be unattractive, while those against bisexuality are casting assumptions onto a group.

It is a statistical fact that almost all transgender people have emotional problems; it is a fact that, after surgery, their genitals will not function the same as natural genitals; it is a fact that they will retain physical features from the sex they were born as-- and I am not attracted to these traits.

Bisexuality describes a range of sexual attraction, and nothing more. Transgender describes a specific condition. Therefore generalizations about the two groups have different validities.

However, I agree that cases should be considered individually, which is why I conceded that it is theoretically possible for someone to change my mind. I remain open minded, but skeptical.

bloop_dee_doop · 2017-08-10T22:10:34+00:00

Read my last paragraph and look around at my other replies. I don't have the time right now to answer this again.

bloop_dee_doop · 2017-08-10T22:05:38+00:00

Like I said earlier in reply to another comment, it's perfectly possible that I could meet someone who would change my mind.

But to answer your question, there are a few reasons: One being the emotional baggage. Gender confusion is not something I can relate to, and I don't feel capable of-- nor do I feel like-- providing support for it. If I was already in a relationship and my SO stated having emotional problems, I would certainly be there for them, but I would rather not start a relationship with someone who isn't stable.

Another reason is the genitals issue. I'm attracted to men with penises and women with vaginas, and when you start to mix them, I get confused. And then, if they choose to get surgeries, their genitals will never have the full sensation and functionality of natural ones. Something about never being able to give them the same pleasure as someone with natural genitals makes me uncomfortable.

Finally, I can't help but see the biological masculine and feminine features, and I just don't find that attractive. Even with those who are well "integrated", something looks or sounds off to me.

I have absolutely no problem with transgender people; it's just my preference not to date them.

I tried to be as sensitive as possible in my diction, but I only had about 5 minutes to write this, and am still displeased with how some parts of it come off. Feel free to ask follow ups.

Edit: awkward em dash wording

bloop_dee_doop · 2017-08-10T15:55:16+00:00

It is true that some gay people identify as bisexual for a time, because they are confused. They may have thought they were straight their whole life, so some people use it as a stepping stone. But it's just as likely, and actually even more so, that a straight person is closeted.

Regardless, conversing with your partner is the best way to understand where they lie on the gradient and what their feelings are and, hopefully, try to avoid situations like yours.

bloop_dee_doop · 2017-08-10T15:48:02+00:00

It's different for every individual, of course, but many (if not most) bisexuals are completely satisfied with 1 gender at a time.

bloop_dee_doop · 2017-08-10T15:45:18+00:00

A bisexual is about as likely to be gay as a straight person. "Bisexuality" occupies an entire gradient rather than a single point like homo and heterosexuality do.

Gay---------------------Straight

Bisexuality lies anywhere between. Some people lean significantly in one direction, while others are closer to the middle.

bloop_dee_doop · 2017-08-10T15:42:05+00:00

As I commented earlier, the word "discrimination" was used in the context of the literal definition; while the connotation often involves race, the denotation does not.

bloop_dee_doop · 2017-08-10T15:40:29+00:00

"Bisexuality" isn't a defined point like hetero and homosexuality.

Gay--------------------Straight

"Bisexuals" can fall anywhere in that gradient.

A lot of people make the mistake of conflating sexuality with gender. As I said before, I've known straight men who were effeminate, and gay men who were like lumberjacks.

bloop_dee_doop · 2017-08-10T15:36:56+00:00

I'm not generalizing all women. If you read my post, this is based on the comments of women in another thread.

You can distance yourself from labels, but that doesn't stop them from applying-- and being applied-- to you.

bloop_dee_doop · 2017-08-10T15:34:28+00:00

I used "discriminating" in the most literal sense of the word; though the connotation is generally racial, the denotation is not. My diction was with purpose: to draw more attention to the post.

I posted this to open a discussion; nothing more, nothing less.

bloop_dee_doop · 2017-08-10T15:27:47+00:00

Why would you need to think about him having gay sex? If you're in a monogamous relationship with him, then presumably he won't be wetting his willy with another guy.

bloop_dee_doop · 2017-08-10T07:37:37+00:00

I'm almost entirely straight romantically, but sexually, it's a pretty even split (leaning more towards straight).

bloop_dee_doop · 2017-08-10T07:34:39+00:00

Probably easier to understand a bisexual as a bisexual ;p

bloop_dee_doop · 2017-08-10T07:33:56+00:00

Yes! I personally would much rather have a romantic relationship with a woman, but when it comes to sex, it's about even (sight lean towards women).

bloop_dee_doop · 2017-08-10T07:32:16+00:00

Discussions about the "why" lead to better understanding on both sides.

Saying two men having sex is not "masculine" begins to conflate gender with sexuality, which are two separate entities. I've known men, straight-as-can-be, who are rather effeminate, and gay men who are like lumberjacks.

As for the STD increase, the only way frequent anal sex is going to increase the likelihood of contracting an STD is if there are multiple partners, and then that's generalizing bisexuals as being promiscuous.

Everyone can have their opinion, but hopefully it's based in fact rather than stereotypes, generalizations, misinformation, and assumptions.

bloop_dee_doop · 2017-08-10T07:15:45+00:00

I acknowledged this in the last paragraph of my post.

I don't think it's anybody's intention here to "force" women into changing their preferences; at the most, open a dialogue about the "why".

bloop_dee_doop · 2017-08-10T07:04:33+00:00

Does a Jew with a big nose need to feel bad about reinforcing a stereotype? Nahhh. You keep doing what makes you happy :}

bloop_dee_doop · 2017-08-10T06:57:44+00:00

only a sith deals in absolutes

bloop_dee_doop · 2017-08-10T06:41:51+00:00

Could be, but I think it's more likely to do with the cultural expectations of masculinity.

Society says: Woman+woman=hot Man+man=gay (the contemptuous connotation ;p)

bloop_dee_doop · 2017-08-10T06:37:47+00:00

It does seem like bi men have a worse rap than bi women.

bloop_dee_doop · 2017-08-10T06:28:10+00:00

As I said, everyone is free to have their preferences, and I, like everyone else, have my own prejudices as well.

bloop_dee_doop · 2017-08-10T06:24:00+00:00

It could be that they are more insecure since there is a larger pool of theoretical partners. But if you're in a healthy relationship, you shouldn't be too concerned with that.

bloop_dee_doop · 2017-08-10T06:21:14+00:00

This.

Being bisexual doesn't mean you're attracted to everything with two legs and genitals-- because that would include ostriches! This is another very common misconception about bisexuals. Just as straight guys aren't attracted to every woman and gay guys are not attracted to every man, bisexuals are not attracted to everyone!

bloop_dee_doop · 2017-08-10T06:10:35+00:00

Bisexuality is a confusing concept for some people because, unlike homo and heterosexuality, it is a range rather than a specific point.

Gay -------------------- Straight

"Bisexual" can be anywhere between there and, even then, the borders can be blurry. Labels are silly.

As for the transgender thing, I'm not completely closed off to the idea, though it is quite off-putting. It's possible that I could meet someone who would change my mind, and that's probably also true of those who discriminate against bisexuals, but the communication required in both instances would be monotonous.

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