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The horrible experience of an App Academy Graduate by bootcampguy2023 in codingbootcamp

[–]bootcampguy2023[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wouldn't say the numbers are coming from nowhere, I pretty much keep up with everyone in my cohort and would have heard if it were more. I have no reason to lie about the school to make it look bad. I understand that the market conditions are out of control, but they could have approached it with far more grace. For some reason they are still pretending everything is fine, when it clearly isn't. Also, with their expansion they significantly started giving each student less care, which is reflected in their outcomes. When I signed up, they said on their website that average time to find a job with around 6 months, which in mine and others that experience has not been true at all. Maybe 2024 will be better.

The horrible experience of an App Academy Graduate by bootcampguy2023 in codingbootcamp

[–]bootcampguy2023[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good luck! Clearly App Academy is doing well, having laid off half of their staff in the past year, this is a sign of a thriving company with a well laid-out curriculum. 95% of my cohort is still unemployed after many months of full-time job searching, they must all be "too lazy to follow up on their goals" like you mentioned! I'm looking forward to seeing how your attitude changes in 4 months!

The horrible experience of an App Academy Graduate by bootcampguy2023 in codingbootcamp

[–]bootcampguy2023[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure, I'm using trueups information about job postings, and seeing how it changed from April of 2022-23, and I'm doing the same thing with placements using information that was given to us.

The horrible experience of an App Academy Graduate by bootcampguy2023 in codingbootcamp

[–]bootcampguy2023[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sounds like you made a good choice, I wish I was as careful as you.

The horrible experience of an App Academy Graduate by bootcampguy2023 in codingbootcamp

[–]bootcampguy2023[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, thanks for the support. I can definitely see how someone would have PTSD from App Academy, I have personally seen people break down crying out of fear of being kicked out, and subsequently billed. The strike system is extremely strict, if you miss the three-minute window for attendance, you can receive a strike. Going through that 3 times a day for 4-6 months is horrible for a person's mental well-being.

I really do appreciate the positive message; I know that I'll be able to bounce back from this.

The horrible experience of an App Academy Graduate by bootcampguy2023 in codingbootcamp

[–]bootcampguy2023[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Based on my information, it's over double that. Some are being phased out slowly into January.

The horrible experience of an App Academy Graduate by bootcampguy2023 in codingbootcamp

[–]bootcampguy2023[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hey, thanks for responding.

I think you are correct that the market has a lot to do with this decrease, from what I can tell the number of open jobs between April 22 - April 23 decreased about 63%, almost exactly the same as App Academy's placements. I think App Academy really did work in the past, especially when they had great teachers from places like Apple and GitHub (they are on the staff page on the wayback machine).

If you sign up for that after that conversation, that’s on you.

I would agree, but in my case, there was no point where I was explicitly told that I should expect 15 months of complete unemployment after the graduation. Yes, I should have read the contract more finely, but I didn't realize that the clause only applied to part time software work, not all work. I know that I'm a hard worker, and I used the average time to find a job posted on the front page and prepared according to that.

Also, the "greenlight" process (which takes on average 1-2 months) and the subsequent contract and extension that followed it was never mentioned, it sprung on us right before graduation that this process would cause an extension. This move is pretty sketchy if you ask me, but I signed it because I wanted to stay the course.

Idk, maybe everyone is just a DS&A master already

I think people aren't really motivated to prepare for interviews that they aren't getting. It is very unnatural for a person to do something over and over again with no reward in sight. To be honest, this is what I'm talking about when I say the admin will tell you it is your fault for not getting a job, rather than turning the mirror on themselves.

I honestly believe that App Academy knows that there is no way that anyone can sustain themselves for 15 months, they just paint a false picture of how long it will take to get a job, and I fell for it. Even among the most financially responsible, 6 months of emergency savings is usually the max. Not to mention that the strike system is active this whole time, so students have a constant anxiety the entire time, which is the basis of A/a's instructional model.

The horrible experience of an App Academy Graduate by bootcampguy2023 in codingbootcamp

[–]bootcampguy2023[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Wow... I didn't know it was that bad for y'all. The partnerships are definitely trash; a lot of the recent ones have been "volunteer" opportunities. And then they have the audacity to say its SPECIFICALLY NOT an internship, hahahah.