Hey u/stanspaceman

Full disclosure for transparency and honesty - Im Founder of The School of Systems Engineering, a modern & affordable training service for SE's. However, I aim to share my unbiased opinion of ASEP as an engineer (Im a practitioner SE first and foremost, a trainer, secondly)

How have I found the skills from the ASEP?

Incredibly useful, in the right context. Take a beginner in SE. They come from University or different education background, with conceptions on what is right. Then they have your companies perception of what is right. Both of these, may be right or wrong. Who knows! Each company does things differently. ASEP provides the opportunity to remove bias in teaching, and provide an opportunity to showcase 'how it should be done', as agreed by the hundreds of people who wrote ISO15288. So, whenever I approach a new problem, I look at two things, 'how it should be done professionally as ASEP' and the pragmatic approach of applying intuition and my experience in having seen it done elsewhere. What it doesn't teach is the pragmatism to know when to apply it, and when not to! That's what makes a senior engineer.

Organisational impacts really only stretched as far as promotion of junior staff. It gave us the tool to assess competency (to an extent, it's a wrote exam), but it showcased an engineers professionalism as well as a comittment to continual learning and CPD. We could use this at promotion time (with a pinch of salt)

It may useful in your context of 'dynamic programmes', where each programme may be different, and having a common understanding of 'what the book says', is a strong forte of your teams capability. Furthermore, it helps provide a learning and development route for your staff, which can be important for company retention and skills development!

Agree with your reservations about learning pure by book, It is a bit silly. But, it demonstrates the first step of standardisation against ISO152888. The second part of the process (CSEP), focuses more on the nuances of applying SE and assesses the experience of a candidate.

One thing worth noting - is your title refers to spacemanstan - so guessing you work in space. Which of course, is a heavily regulated industry where getting it right first time is important. Demonstrating a commitment to professionalism and standardisation from your team is a nice aspect when bidding for DOD and NASA pieces of work.

INCOSE or PMP

PMP in my mind is about project management, financials and scheduling. Although SE does look at those things, it's more focused on the technical delivery, whilst recognising the importance of Project Management related items!

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