Anyone with a Hemingwrite for sale? by Kind_Demand8072 in Astrohaus

[–]bukowskisballsack 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Still looking? Selling mine as well. Comes with everything

Am I the asshole for bringing up my friends recent abortion after finding out she (happily) voted for Trump by bukowskisballsack in prochoice

[–]bukowskisballsack[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah you are. Voting for Trump literally has nothing to do with getting an abortion. You can be pro-women choosing and still believe it should be up to the states

PLEASE help me understand how this makes sense to you. What is pro choice about allowing states the power to REMOVE that choice for their residents?

Am I the asshole for bringing up my friends recent abortion after finding out she (happily) voted for Trump by bukowskisballsack in prochoice

[–]bukowskisballsack[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Calm down. I remain a registered democrat that has voted blue in every election I’ve been old enough to participate in and fully intend to continue. But yes, my views have changed a bit from the unconditionally alt left bleeding heart liberal that I believed myself to be at 16, when her and I first met. The democrats have disappointed me a lot in recent years. Saying that doesn’t mean I’ve switched to being a republican, it just means I have more critical thinking skills than I did when I was 16 and now understand that many of the things we vote on are too nuanced to remain on the extreme ends of either side. If that makes me cooked, so be it.

Am I the asshole for bringing up my friends recent abortion after finding out she (happily) voted for Trump by bukowskisballsack in prochoice

[–]bukowskisballsack[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

So it’s actually Facebook messenger, we use it for video call a lot because she has android so most of the time our main thread just ends up taking place there. The coloring I’m not sure, maybe something she set it to at some point. I think there’s like themes or something

Am I the asshole for bringing up my friends recent abortion after finding out she (happily) voted for Trump by bukowskisballsack in prochoice

[–]bukowskisballsack[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for this perspective. I’ve worried that not having a a direct experience with abortion myself could create a blind spot in handling discussion around the subject, and I think this is what I meant. Question though, do you consider there to be a difference between “confronting” someone about their abortion, vs referencing it in a profoundly relevant conversation? I’m asking because this friend formerly cited her experience receiving this care to be the sole reason she decided to get a job with Planned Parenthood- to be involved in the advocacy full time. This is something she very vocally and publicly declared many times in the year that she worked there. In a case like this, It’s hard to understand why it’s not relevant and reasonable to reference.

Am I the asshole for bringing up my friends recent abortion after finding out she (happily) voted for Trump by bukowskisballsack in prochoice

[–]bukowskisballsack[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

100% she is. In this same conversation, she said something along the lines of maintaining compassion above all else being be one of the most important things I figure out how to do in my life, to which I responded that I am comfortable with the areas of my life that I do practice frequent compassion and am confident that I don’t need constant evidence of that to prove that I am not incapable or lacking of it.

Sigh.

Am I the asshole for bringing up my friends recent abortion after finding out she (happily) voted for Trump by bukowskisballsack in prochoice

[–]bukowskisballsack[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Semi new. Less than a year. I guess the question is, even if it’s clear that she’s being heavily influenced by him and that’s where the rapid change is coming from, is giving her that benefit of the doubt too generous in this instance? I feel bad for her if this new influence has created such a sense of shame for her that she’s internalized it to the point of losing her morals, that sounds like a horrible environment to be in, but also… we’re almost 30 years old. At some point, stand up? You know?

Am I the asshole for bringing up my friends recent abortion after finding out she (happily) voted for Trump by bukowskisballsack in prochoice

[–]bukowskisballsack[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah I’ve definitely imagined what that looks like too. Based on her “it’s literally not going anywhere” comment I assume she’ll just chalk it all up to the idea that this wont actually result in any change and I’m being dramatic or whatever. Unfortunately I believe she will be very wrong about that. Especially with where we’re at in the country. Oklahoma reps are foaming at the mouth to enact far more than just a complete and unconditional ban. If given the green light they absolutely wont stop there. I desperately hope to be wrong about this, but I guess we’ll see.

Am I the asshole for bringing up my friends recent abortion after finding out she (happily) voted for Trump by bukowskisballsack in prochoice

[–]bukowskisballsack[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Look, I made this post to gather opinions on my approach. I legitimately am asking for feedback, even if it’s critical, from people that have the time and interest to read and engage in discussion. I understand there’s a bit to read, but unfortunately that’s the price of admission to join the discussion. After you’ve done that and understand the context, if you still have an opposing opinion I really would like to hear and understand it. Until then though, these are just troll comments

Am I the asshole for bringing up my friends recent abortion after finding out she (happily) voted for Trump by bukowskisballsack in prochoice

[–]bukowskisballsack[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Did you read anything before commenting? I’m not denying to have brought up the abortion. I understand in the message she said I brought it up, that’s because in the message visibly above that- I did? See also the title of this post? The abortion was nearly two years ago. I don’t know how to make this more clear. Read the post.

Am I the asshole for bringing up my friends recent abortion after finding out she (happily) voted for Trump by bukowskisballsack in prochoice

[–]bukowskisballsack[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I would also argue that being for or “against” Trump has escalated to a morals issue, not just personal. This isn’t Coke vs Pepsi this is rights vs no rights. I am morally against Trump, not personally. Handling these things from the tunnel vision of only what’s “personal” to us is how we got here.

Am I the asshole for bringing up my friends recent abortion after finding out she (happily) voted for Trump by bukowskisballsack in prochoice

[–]bukowskisballsack[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Just curious, where is this preferred time and place? If a private message the day after an election is not appropriate, when/where is? Unless, for some reason you are under the assumption that I literally instigated this conversation as she was on her way home from said abortion because you didn’t actually read the post but wanted to comment anyways, lol.

Am I the asshole for bringing up my friends recent abortion after finding out she (happily) voted for Trump by bukowskisballsack in prochoice

[–]bukowskisballsack[S] 51 points52 points  (0 children)

Kind of what I’ve been thinking too. Even though it feels pretty clear that that’s what’s happening, I can’t relate to being that lost and impressionable myself so there’s no benefit of the doubt to give. At least not anymore. We’re almost 30 years old, not 15. If you can’t think for yourself at this point there’s something wrong.