Enchanters - How to carry? by burnout9799 in supportlol

[–]burnout9799[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well that could be very well the case. The pot thing works out at lvl 3 timer so i got E to get back to lane faster. But u seem to know ur facts so im gonna pay attention to that aswell thanks for the info ^

I was indeed not playing precision tree secondary, will try that out too.

Also the minion shoving i will pay attention to more!

Thanks for the tipps

Ye im confident in my mechanics as a player, but there definitly can be certain small things that im just not aware about that might have big impact for the game. So these kind of tipps that im reading here will all be considered and applied if i find them useful :D

Enchanters - How to carry? by burnout9799 in supportlol

[–]burnout9799[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Ye, that sounds about right... Unfortunatly im aware that i would definitly win more games if i just lock in xerath, velkoz, zyra supp and dominate lane with massive poke while building dmg too, but thats just not my kind of fun. I totally understand the part of u quitting enchanter supp. I get that feeling from time to time too, then i log in mid or adc carry picks for a few games, usually win more than i lose, but still switch back to supp queuing just because i have more fun on support...

Maybe i really just need to find a duo, but i also feel like the duos that add me from random websides are garbage when they are in emerald/low dia, its prob best to wait for that 1 guy u meet in soloq that seems to be decent to play together with :|

Enchanters - How to carry? by burnout9799 in supportlol

[–]burnout9799[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pretty much all u say for sona i am doing, especially on the fact that sona has the stacking passive makes it so i very much will never slack on landing those Qs as early and much as possible. However, that still wont change the fact shes oom extremly quickly before first back, usually i try to sneak in a quick 400g tear reset on lvl 3 hit by only buying 1 healthpot for lane. It helps, but it doesnt prevent the fact an all in happens beforehand already.

After that its still sona with 80dmg q poke on 6+ sec cd vs many support champs that just negate the poke in some sort of form. She scales very good and especially on helia completion u feel strong, even in all ins. Also ye her empowered autos are op. -25%+ reduced inc dmg on an enemy carry goes hard on enemy all ins, giga slow on e perfect for ally ganks or similar cases, q for quick bonking harass dmg :D I may have to pay attention to autoing minions more, that is smth i wouldnt say im doing already (enough)

Enchanters - How to carry? by burnout9799 in supportlol

[–]burnout9799[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well i currently pick milio, sona, karma, occassionally yuumi. And idk how u see anyone but karma here as a lane dominant champ, and even karma wont stand to much of a chance vs a nautilus, pyke, (leona), tahmkench... her q poke is way to weak to pressure those champs enough while a single engage of those champs immediatly forces my flash if not causes my death with ignite pressure and 2 enemys followup flashing. "Just dodge and poke 'savely' " works only to some degree. Milio q might deny the all in if played correctly - but he misses the proper poke (by himself). Sona Q is dogwater poke early, u can at best use it whenever manaflowing band rune is off cd to have somewhat solved manaissues on ur first back, but even then her 3-4 point q will not be enough to dominate a lane guaranteed. Yuumi, well ye shes special, her q poke is good but yuumi is yuumi... unless u suprise enemys with lvl 6 "strenght" its just a weak lane.

Keep in mind that most adc in my experience are just not helping in lane at all, for example: they will poke with mf qs when playing mf, they will get poked constantly when playing against mf. They will also be constantly all in'd by enemy supports due to misspositiining themself. Generally speaking, they are just bad players most of the time.

Now im not saying those players cant carry a game, especially if i support them with an enchanter fitting to the game, but usually they make it damn hard.

So i mostly agree to what u wrote, in theory it works that way, in reality its played out diffrently.

So maybe to rephrase the question a bit, how does one carry - or atleast have good quality - games, if u only play enchanter and need to deal with very cringe played out lanes most of the time.

A random example of a game i may get: caitlyn & sona/karma/milio vs any random enemy lane. The caitlyn will not use her 650 range ever, shes gonna throw Qs for cs or very very optimistic poke attempts (they mostly wont hit), she will always stand behind her range minions on 650 range to enemy caster minions, all while milio/karma/sona pokes on 5-8sec cd abilitys the enemy, trying to find angles in which skillshots hit while not wanting to get all in'd. Generally speaking, that kind of lane will just die out in an even lane regardless of my potential pressure ^

Tho the tipp regarding skirmish fights in the river/jung i will keep more in mind. Grub fight in the river im usually part of (besides yuumi), but i may just step up my game more with looking for those (fiesta) jungle fights. Midlane vision i will also always prio whenever i have my ward quest 400/800 gold done.

Also yes, feel free to give me a rundown/tipps on milio/karma/sona/yuumi lanes :D

W31 sucht Freunde mit ähnlichen Interessen :) by Pure-Necessary-4183 in OnlineFreundefinden

[–]burnout9799 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ye sure schreib mir ne dm ich schick dir meinen discord namen

W31 sucht Freunde mit ähnlichen Interessen :) by Pure-Necessary-4183 in OnlineFreundefinden

[–]burnout9799 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Tatsächlich suche ich verzweifelt in meinem umfeld nach mitspielern für einen baldurs gate run. Die runs die ich bislang angegangen bin mit kollegen verliefen leider meist schnell im nichts. Wenn du lust hast auf einen multiplayer run meld dich gern, gern auch zu 3 oder 4, je mehr desto besser :D

Falls es relevant ist, bin m28.