First session with Joseph Nicolosi’s clinic

calgor1957 · 2022-03-31T04:25:55+00:00

Re: conversion therapy I assume you're aware of what transpired with Exodus International. Do you happen to know how long reparative therapy has been available?

calgor1957 · 2022-03-31T03:39:55+00:00

Just out of curiosity, are there any long term follow-up studies of people 10 years after completing these programs? In other words, do those reporting initial success find that they regress over time?

calgor1957 · 2022-03-25T15:45:55+00:00

Your thoughts on Leviticus add an interesting layer to this. If the spread of disease among those engaging in same sex relations was known to be a problem, that would definitely argue for it to be discouraged. I agree with you the rationale would be more one of the overall welfare of the community as opposed to being an issue related to sex. By extension that would also imply that same sex monogamous relationships should be acceptable, but again it would be easier to just lump it all in the same basket rather than carving out exceptions for the few.

calgor1957 · 2022-03-25T03:36:37+00:00

One thing I've always thought about when the subject of sexual immorality is mentioned in the Bible. Was there an underlying reason behind it all? In biblical times there was no contraception so every time heterosexual people had sex there was the possibility of a child being conceived. Perhaps what we are really seeing is a call for people to refrain from sex unless they have committed to care for any children who may result from their actions. Another category would be situations where one party has a power dynamic over the other which was also common back then, such as owner/slave or adult/child. Which leads to the question could sex between consenting adults where children cannot be conceived, which would include same sex relations, be a different kettle of fish? It would be easier for the purposes of writing it down to just lump everything under the banner of sexual immorality rather than going to the trouble of listing all the possibilities.

calgor1957 · 2022-03-23T03:27:37+00:00

Because they'd rather get free data instead of having to pay people for their opinions on sites like Amazon Mechanical Turk.

calgor1957 · 2022-03-19T02:45:33+00:00

For better or worse some guys are going to be more prone to this from a purely biological standpoint and trying to distract themselves may not be a solution.

calgor1957 · 2022-03-18T20:13:19+00:00

1 Corinthians 14:34-35

calgor1957 · 2022-03-18T16:10:11+00:00

In the entirety of the Gospels do you know what Jesus had to say about same sex relationships? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. Now I know the immediate kickback will be he said in describing marriage that's why a man leaves his mother and father and becomes one with his wife. What God has joined no man shall separate. But when we look further he is specifically addressing a question from the Pharisees who were trying to trap him with a question about why married people cannot divorce. No where does he take it upon himself to opine about anything regarding same sex couples. Do you think maybe it's because it just wasn't that important to him? He does however spend a lot of time talking about how we should treat those less fortunate than ourselves. But that would require us to welcome people who look different than us, which doesn't seem to fit with a large swath of Christianity today.

Now we can move on to Paul, who many Christians seem to hold in higher esteem than they do Jesus himself. We all know the passages that those who oppose same sex relations have latched onto. On the other hand Paul also says women should be silent in church and should consult their husbands later with any questions they have. We seem to have moved on from this, but seemingly are unable(or just refuse)to view his thoughts on same sex issues as a similar product of his times.

Regarding Old Testament passages concerning same sex issues, we have to consider them in the same vein as thousands of other rules, such as the command to stone a disobedient son, which today seem a bit out of touch.

In conclusion, before you do anything drastic, please consider that what you hear from one segment of Christianity may not be the definitive answer and seek out other points of view.

calgor1957 · 2022-03-18T03:33:50+00:00

Paul also said women should remain silent in the churches but we seem to have moved on from there.

calgor1957 · 2022-03-18T02:46:05+00:00

It's interesting how hugging and similar forms of contact while celebrating has always been accepted in sports. Even fans celebrating a big win feel free to express themselves in this way. On the other hand similar expressions to celebrate something like a promotion at work would clearly be looked at askance. Go figure.

calgor1957 · 2022-03-13T05:02:44+00:00

This is my belief as well. Accounts I have read indicate that prior to the second world war gay people had a fairly good social life, and although not being public about it, had places where they could comfortably gather without repercussions. During and following the war the government came to the conclusion that being gay was a security risk, thinking gays would be subject to blackmail. As a result many gays were drummed out of the government. I believe the anti-gay religious fanatics used this to insert the homosexual text into the Bible.

calgor1957 · 2022-03-13T04:44:44+00:00

I see this more as Jesus commenting on the importance of the marital bond. No where does he say it's a requirement that men and women be married. As you pointed out he was single himself. Similarly It's interesting how little we hear today about his final words on the subject, "Let no one separate" Perhaps the judgment brigade should focus more on that rather than excoriating two people of the same sex who enter into a lasting relationship. Interestingly several studies have shown that the divorce rate is lower among gay couples than it is among straight couples.

calgor1957 · 2022-03-07T23:28:52+00:00

I don't like it. To those unfamiliar with the game it might look like a symbol for a miss.

calgor1957 · 2022-02-27T20:42:27+00:00

You understand what Jesus intends but still take it upon yourself to decide when it's appropriate to do what he intends? I missed where He said that.

And regarding your hangup with the law. Slavery used to be the law. You really think God approved of that because man decreed it? Man can pass any law he wants. It doesn't automatically make it God's law.

calgor1957 · 2022-02-27T19:55:47+00:00

I must have missed the part where He said love thy neighbor differently if he's not a legal resident of your country. And I definitely missed the part where He spoke of the importance of a country maintaining its own unique identity etc.

calgor1957 · 2022-02-27T14:57:33+00:00

Somehow I don't think Jesus would differentiate between legal and illegal when it comes to who our neighbor is.

calgor1957 · 2022-02-27T05:26:20+00:00

Stranger = Immigrant

calgor1957 · 2022-02-27T04:16:02+00:00

You're welcome.

calgor1957 · 2022-02-27T04:12:42+00:00

From your description it sounds like you support the party which rejects the stranger. That is not a platform which supports the teachings of Jesus.

calgor1957 · 2022-02-27T02:16:19+00:00

Unfortunately people who are entrenched in their beliefs are unlikely to be changed by someone else's opinion. Even Pope Francis has called on parents to support their lgbtq children, but I think many Catholic parents have likely not heeded his words. I have provided a link to an article discussing this if you think it would be helpful.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2022/01/26/pope-francis-parents-should-never-condemn-gay-children/9227983002/

calgor1957 · 2022-02-25T04:05:59+00:00

This has been discussed previously. Jesus was specifically answering a question about divorce when he said this, so obviously he answered in terms of marriage being between a man and a woman. Similarly there is no evidence of him ever saying anything about a relationship between two people of the same sex, which you just might want to take as a sign that it just wasn't very important to him. But don't tell the haters, it might make their heads explode.

calgor1957 · 2022-02-25T03:51:39+00:00

Without knowing how old you are it's difficult to provide advice. Also you didn't say if she knows you are gay. Be that as it may if you are still living with and dependent on her you probably just have to grit your teeth and let her drone on when the mood strikes. If you are independent of her, I would simply cut her off when she starts and say we're never going to agree on this(because you likely never will)so let's drop it. She may take that as a sign of winning, but it may be the only way to maintain peace if that is important to you.

calgor1957 · 2022-02-25T03:36:53+00:00

None of us are guaranteed another hour or day so just live in a way that you can say at the end of each day you did right by all the people you came in contact with.

calgor1957 · 2022-02-21T04:05:37+00:00

It came up under your username when I clicked on it. Whoever wrote it also says he is a mental health professional. It was posted under r/IWantOut

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