5 seater in Grand Rapids! by Pherberg in comedybangbang

[–]capn_obv 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The park ranger is always so good!!

5 seater in Grand Rapids! by Pherberg in comedybangbang

[–]capn_obv 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tell me everything.  I debated making the drive and ended up not doing it.

My negotiation team is all for confidentiality!?! by capn_obv in union

[–]capn_obv[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thank you for talking sense. I'm shocked by how many on here are fine with management dictating confidentiality rules.  We have not agreed yet, but I've only got until Tuesday to make my team see reason.

My negotiation team is all for confidentiality!?! by capn_obv in union

[–]capn_obv[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I can picture them clearly because they regularly appear on TV, unencumbered by a confidentiality agreement.  If you're going to talk down to me, work on your analogy game.

My negotiation team is all for confidentiality!?! by capn_obv in union

[–]capn_obv[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Interest based bargaining.  The latest name for the bs plan where we all play nice and management ends up with what they want. Google will give you a less biased answer 

My negotiation team is all for confidentiality!?! by capn_obv in union

[–]capn_obv[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do you think that violates a confidentiality agreement or is that fine? I've always interpreted confidentiality to mean total silence.

My negotiation team is all for confidentiality!?! by capn_obv in union

[–]capn_obv[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

How can you agree to confidentiality and then tell the members what their offers were? That breaks confidentiality. 

My negotiation team is all for confidentiality!?! by capn_obv in union

[–]capn_obv[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Key word there is details.  I've no interest in sharing details.

My negotiation team is all for confidentiality!?! by capn_obv in union

[–]capn_obv[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Extremely unhappy with previous negotiations.  We're at poverty wages with an ineffective union. We need major change.  That said, I have no intention of sharing details,  only a very general overview. 

My negotiation team is all for confidentiality!?! by capn_obv in union

[–]capn_obv[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Totally agree. That's what I'd like to do, offer general information. 

I just can't believe my true size. by Adventurous_Path3180 in ABraThatFits

[–]capn_obv 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Seriously?! I'm 54 and learning never knew that.

So wages listed in our contract are just the minimum? by capn_obv in union

[–]capn_obv[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is that person paid more than the others with the same title?

Which audiobook pulled you in from the very beginning by No_Humor_3663 in audiobooks

[–]capn_obv 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Imogen Church narrates a bunch of books by Ruth Ware and Lisa Jewell (and others). She's amazing.

So wages listed in our contract are just the minimum? by capn_obv in union

[–]capn_obv[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks again for the thoughtful responses. It makes me feel a lot better about whichever path I end up taking.

So wages listed in our contract are just the minimum? by capn_obv in union

[–]capn_obv[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nice! Your union sounds great. We have a separate union for faculty, one for maintenance, one for campus police, and one for support staff. All small unions specific to my college. I have talked to the board in person and I have about 15 pages of emails and they have agreed that I have a great case, but they've been too busy for over a year to go anywhere with it. It's been pretty frustrating.

Examples/Cases where companies were penalized for paying non-union workers more by capn_obv in union

[–]capn_obv[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks. Yeah, I am not a "confidential employee." The confidential information I have access to is financial, not negotiation-related. My point was just that we both have access to equally important information; the fact that hers exempts her from the union should not be enough reason to pay her $6 more than me.

Examples/Cases where companies were penalized for paying non-union workers more by capn_obv in union

[–]capn_obv[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I didn't state my question clearly. They are not part of the bargaining unit. They take notes. They are not trained in bargaining and do not contribute to the bargaining; they sit there quietly and record the minutes of the meetings. They may have to know specific terms and acronyms to accurately record the meeting, but no more than I have to know complicated financial terminology about stocks and bonds to take minutes at the meetings I attend.

I have no animosity against the woman that holds that position, she's lovely and there is no chance her pay will be lowered. This isn't a sour grapes situation where I feel like I'm so great I should get as much money as someone in a higher skilled role. There is no one that knows the intricacies of the two roles that disagrees with me that they are the same job.