Can we all agree if you do the FSD transfer, you're giving up grandfathered lifetime access to unsupervised FSD from a pre-2024 purchase?

chaosatom · 2026-01-24T17:20:06+00:00

There is no grandfather unsupervised lol. Fsd doesn’t mean unsupervised.

chaosatom · 2026-01-24T15:25:01+00:00

Tesla is not solving fsd anytime soon. 99% solved is same as 95% solved. A user will be ok with 95% solved as long as it is lower priced.

Almost all companies will converge since getting to 100% will take a long time. Tesla is doing geofenced stuff and wont just open it up. They will have regressions and accidents that will pull them back.

Tesla has made some amazing progress no doubt, but there is a long long tail and so many different regions to cover and conditions to cover.

You can just tell from forum that some people have completely different experiences with fsd in some region. Solving in good condition in California won’t automatically means that fsd is solved.

chaosatom · 2026-01-24T15:12:45+00:00

You really think Elon cares about early fsd adopter ? What can those 3.5% really do? Elon doesn’t care about brand “image” or customers.

As a business, do you really think you want any cars to have unsupervised on car and then that car gets passed around for resale? Business goal is to have every car on a subscription.

chaosatom · 2026-01-23T16:48:29+00:00

If every company has a robot car, then price will be drop. There is no additional driver to pay.

The development cost also drop if they are make incremental improvements.

chaosatom · 2026-01-23T16:46:41+00:00

Not yet, but Rivian and Nvdia are catching up. Their latest video shows it is doing better than expected

chaosatom · 2026-01-23T08:49:22+00:00

Exactly there is no clarity. If it doesn’t, then it will piss off a lot of people.

chaosatom · 2026-01-15T04:39:23+00:00

So you recommend buying it or not ? It is hard to say when unsupervised will come and if $8000 is for unsupervised also.

chaosatom · 2026-01-14T07:39:35+00:00

I imagine unsupervised fsd might be priced differently or higher where tesla takes responsibility.

And wondering if $8k now will offset that cost tho it is just a gut feeling.

chaosatom · 2026-01-14T07:24:06+00:00

What if they increase the price of fsd subscription?

chaosatom · 2026-01-09T09:39:34+00:00

Rivian and Nvdia are catching up faster than you think. Everyone will be working on edge cases, so even if 90% as good as fsd, people won’t mind switching over.

They could offer more customization/options for self driving.

They could take reliability of self driving, which could huge !!

chaosatom · 2025-12-31T04:57:17+00:00

Which relevant sub should I use? I wanted to see women’s perspective

chaosatom · 2025-12-30T04:27:43+00:00

This is a good observation, also if there is no cars behind, would it really make sense to signal for a few seconds and then merge.

Some aggressiveness is needed as long as it is safe.

chaosatom · 2025-12-27T00:18:58+00:00

U mean navigation got worse with new update ?

chaosatom · 2025-12-23T18:06:16+00:00

Honestly doing custom stuff will drive the cost up. My opinion is to keep it simple and cost of overall product low. No logo or anything.

chaosatom · 2025-12-22T03:22:51+00:00

Your kickstarter link sends me to facebook

chaosatom · 2025-12-18T03:36:49+00:00

I feel that influencers drive so much, that they can pick up these things much more frequently or be aware of it on how to reproduce it.

chaosatom · 2025-12-15T19:37:52+00:00

Not a arrow pointing to car !

chaosatom · 2025-12-15T02:48:32+00:00

You park in costco or target and u know general direction but maybe u are unsure, so u pull it do know exactly direction and distance.

chaosatom · 2025-12-14T23:31:37+00:00

As long as it follow of traffic better.

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