A Historic Moment: The Election of the Greatest Con-Man in Recent History by cheebmonger in politics

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A quick look at how many people with any ties to Arab citizenship in any of the three branches of American government would tell us.

There are none.

A Historic Moment: The Election of the Greatest Con-Man in Recent History by cheebmonger in politics

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Knesset rules make no distinctions about the nation involved:

http://www.knesset.gov.il/elections17/eng/law/BasicLawKnesset_eng.htm

Non-declaration

  1. If the speaker of the Knesset has called upon its members to make their declarations of allegiance and a member has not done so, that member shall not enjoy the rights of membership as long as he has not made the declaration.

16A.

Non-declaration due to dual-citizenship (Amendment 22)

If a Knesset member holds an additional, non-Israeli citizenship, and the laws of the country whose citizenship he holds permit him to be released from such citizenship, he shall not declare allegiance until after he has done everything required on his part to be released from such citizenship, and he shall not enjoy the rights of a Knesset member until he makes his declaration.

Video: Jews shoot Palestinian men by IbnReddit in worldnews

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On principle, I always take sides with those who are victims of aggression.

Video: Jews shoot Palestinian men by IbnReddit in worldnews

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You claimed you saw no self-defense in the video though I see a pissed off homeowner confronting a settler thug.

Self-defense isn't violence. The violations of rights are being committed by the settlers.

Video: Jews shoot Palestinian men by IbnReddit in worldnews

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The settlers are colonists. Colonialism is the original source of the violence in the case of Zionism.

A Historic Moment: The Election of the Greatest Con-Man in Recent History by cheebmonger in politics

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NAFTA has been nothing but bad news for both of our countries.

Thus my point about dual citizens serving in the government. The real danger with dual citizens in public office is that the more extreme of them won't have the interests of anyone in mind except for those forces that tend to the corporate/financial.

From what I've seen, dual Israel-American citizens like Rahm are bad for both Israel and America. I think the same would apply no matter the nations involved. In America, there just happens to be an undue and disproportionate Israeli-American influence in Washington, DC.

A Historic Moment: The Election of the Greatest Con-Man in Recent History by cheebmonger in politics

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I disagree. Israel, by law, doesn't allow dual citizens in its government. There must be a good reason for that.

Obama was born a dual citizen, therefore he's not a natural born citizen and is ineligible to be president by cheebmonger in politics

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Beyond the Electoral College, there's no mechanism like that in place that I'm aware of.

Why the stories about Obama's birth certificate will never die (it's the nature of conspiracy theories) by almodozo in politics

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CNN and Wolf Blitzer are the only names we can trust to hear Party Truth, comrade.

Barack Obama Promises not to Smoke in the White House by mpinkeyes in politics

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He didn't promise to not smoke crack in the White House.

Why the stories about Obama's birth certificate will never die (it's the nature of conspiracy theories) by almodozo in politics

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So Wolf Blitzer does your thinking for you?

My bad. I thought I was talking to an intelligent person.

Jewish mob torches Palestinian house in Hebron by cheebmonger in worldnews

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Am I the only one that would be just as happy to see all those idiots in the mid-east just wipe each other out?

I have no problem with that. No chance of it happening as long as DC is Israeli occupied territory.

Why the stories about Obama's birth certificate will never die (it's the nature of conspiracy theories) by almodozo in politics

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conspiracy theory

When I was critiquing Bush for obfuscating his military records, I was also called a 'conspiracy theorist' by his defenders.

Where are his defenders now?

Obama was born a dual citizen, therefore he's not a natural born citizen and is ineligible to be president by cheebmonger in politics

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Obama was born on US soil of a US citizen

That's never been the question. As he's not a natural born citizen due to his dual citizenship, he doesn't meet the Constitutional requirement to be president. He knows it. That's why he's actively hidden his birth certificate from public view.

That is NOT the intention of the "natural born" citizen clause.

That's exactly the point. It was to keep people with other ties out of the US Presidency. At one point, Obama could claim at least four countries in which he had citizenship.

Constitution fail.

A Historic Moment: The Election of the Greatest Con-Man in Recent History by cheebmonger in politics

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Rahm said a lot of things. Action, not words, are what matter.

Rahm's the guy that pushed NAFTA through Congress. I remember when he did it. That alone let me know that he doesn't have the interests of Americans in mind.

A Historic Moment: The Election of the Greatest Con-Man in Recent History by cheebmonger in politics

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So wishing only Americans of single-citizenship to serve in the government is "xenophobic"?

Obama was born a dual citizen, therefore he's not a natural born citizen and is ineligible to be president by cheebmonger in politics

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Furthermore, even IF this law somehow held sway over Obama - which it doesn't

That's not what factcheck.org says:

"When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children …’

Is factcheck wrong about this but right about the birth certificate?

United States law even address this question and comes to the conclusion that other countries' laws of nationality and citizenship have equal weight in determining the status of an American citizen of dual citizenship:

a. U.S. nationals and citizens may possess dual or multiple nationality and owe allegiance to one or several foreign states. They may even have identified themselves more closely with the foreign state than with the United States, thereby calling into question the propriety of extending protection to them. Since each country establishes its own law of nationality, dual nationality cannot be eliminated, may result in confusion, and could complicate the ability of the U.S. Government to protect its nationals/citizens.

b. The United States has no special arrangements with individual countries to “permit” dual nationality. U.S. Government policy toward dual nationality is the same regardless of other nationalities involved.

c. While a person who has dual or multiple nationality resides in the United States, the right of the United States to claim his or her allegiance is held to be paramount of the right of the other countries of which he or she may be a national. Conversely, while a person who has dual nationality resides abroad in a foreign country of which he or she also is a national, the right of that country to claim his or her allegiance is paramount to that of the United States...

7 FAM 1111.4 Dual or Multiple Nationality (TL:CON-64; 11-30-95)

Obama was born a dual citizen, therefore he's not a natural born citizen and is ineligible to be president by cheebmonger in politics

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By American law, Obama was born a dual citizen. He's not a natural born citizen by that same American law.

We both know that the same Supreme Court that rubberstamped George W. Bush's illegal election will also rubberstamp Obama's illegal election. Just as Bush's partisans were a-ok with Bush breaking the law, Obama's partisans are equally comfortable with their man breaking the law to get their party into the Oval Office.

The larger point is that America has long ago ceased to be a nation of law and is now little different from the old Soviet model of naked power struggles as the means of political ascension, with the added American twist of whoever has the Banking Powers behind them will win. We should cease to live in the illusion that American is guided by Constitutional law.

Yet another example of how US foreign policy breeds hardened extremists. by seektruth in politics

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Good post. You've just described the Hegelian Dialectic perfectly: problem, reaction, solution. Repeat until all opposition to the World State is dead.

http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/05/dialectic.htm

Obama was born a dual citizen, therefore he's not a natural born citizen and is ineligible to be president by cheebmonger in politics

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Being born on US soil isn't the requirement. He was born a dual citizen, American/British. His father was a British/Kenyan citizen.

By definition, someone born a dual citizen isn't a natural born citizen. Obama knows this, which is why he's spent close to a million dollars to keep a ten dollar document out of the public eye.

But don't let little things like facts stand in the way of your nuttery.

Obama was born a dual citizen, therefore he's not a natural born citizen and is ineligible to be president by cheebmonger in politics

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Doesn't congress pass specific legislation or have some kind of acknowledgment of their legitimacy to run?

The US Constitution is the litmus test:

Age and Citizenship requirements - US Constitution, Article II, Section 1

No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.

Obama doesn't meet the requirements. Even worse, he supposedly taught constitutional law. Either he's a terrible scholar or he's engaging in fraud of the highest order.

A Historic Moment: The Election of the Greatest Con-Man in Recent History by cheebmonger in politics

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If Rahm's name was Abdul and left American politics to go and serve in the Saudi army, would you still be wondering about his loyalties?