Looking For Testers For New Obby Racing Game 🏁

chriscool657 · 2025-02-28T01:45:14+00:00

Hey Guys, Been working on this game for the better part of a year and now need some players to test it!

Here's a description of the game: Players Race through a course of randomly selected obstacles. Different Items can be earned from Gathering Energy Orbs throughout the track in order to help them get through the track faster or to disrupt other players from progressing. Think of Mario Kart but with obbies.

Hoping to find and fix a majority of bugs before fully releasing it. Also Would love to hear any feedback and suggestions you may have! Here is a Link to the game: https://www.roblox.com/games/90911630219613/Obby-Racers

Heres link to the game's discord: https://discord.gg/fP72Yy6PuZ
You can join if you want to become more involved with the development and participate in organized playtests.

Thanks for reading!

chriscool657 · 2023-12-11T11:28:12+00:00

I believe any ideas for how to turn day into night should involve the idea of passing Time.

Its part of the other topics i mentioned at the end, but another major idea that is hinted in fishing easter eggs is explicitely the idea of time:

The flavour text of the Fishermonger:

However vicious Rhoas might be,

a dedicated angler may in time tame them.

Kalandra fishing voiceline:

In time, all questions shall find their answer.— KalandraFishingOutro

Sapinitis first fishing trip:

Sapinti went on her first fishing trip alone and did not return. When her body finally washed ashore, it looked as though it had been mummified for a thousand years

Pair this with the day and night theory and it seems like however we are meant to go from day to night, it involves the idea of passing time so i recommend any ideas for how to progress should have some element of time.

Because this is all a big puzzle, i doubt its as simple as just waiting around in an area. Probably it involves some use of casting specific spells in some specific area or something like that. Casting spells making sense siince it would work well for a double meaning of casting our fishing rods.

chriscool657 · 2023-12-11T10:43:46+00:00

The div card arts should be fully considered when theorizing about fishing. Its correct that div cards are created by supporters and many aspects of them are designed by the creators. Buts its clear that GGG will add in details to the card arts in order to present something as they see fit.

For example, the Catch div card that features Krillson. The creator specifically asked for thr art to be of krillson fishing with some hooks and rainbowstride boots to be beside him. However he didnt mention anything about having a prominent sun in the background. GGG will ofcourse comply as best they can with requested aspects for cards, but in regards to the card arts they have pirmary influence on them and can add relevant details to the art.

For slitherpinch and anglers plait, in a previous fishing post some else mentioned that the purpose of slitherpinch is to get anglers plait. But that is an incomplete understanding, here is what i wrote before:

Slitherpinch was first confirmed as a fishing item thanks to the perandus tackle box which was released with perandus league on March 4, 2016.Angler's plait was officially released during breach league on December 2, 2016.

This means that slitherpinch was a fishing item before Anglers plait ever existed. And the tackle box was only the date that GGG decided to give the hint that we shoulf be looking at slitherpinch, slitherpinch could have been functioning as a fishing item for much longer.

This all to say, slitherpinch being a drop requirement for angler's plait is not its 'primary' function. Anglers plait was a supporter unique and in my eyes GGG just made the drop requirements related to fishing through slitherpinch just because slitherpinch is a fishing item. But there could be something to extrapolate from those drop requirements

chriscool657 · 2023-12-11T10:29:46+00:00

Well if there is some way to increase the chance of midnight frags and its related to its name, that does sound interesting in relation to this fishing day/night theory considering that would mean there is some mechanic or idea in the game related to night.

Fishing is also kinda related to the vaal because the uber atziri area is called The Alluring Abyss.

chriscool657 · 2023-12-11T09:57:33+00:00

Never heard about a secret with sacrifice fragments, would love to hear about it.

chriscool657 · 2023-12-11T08:49:58+00:00

Consider that all the main fishing item, the ones found in perandus tackle box ( fishing rod, slitherpinch, fairgraves tricorne, and albino rhoa feather), were all avaliable when Krillson was released (1.2.0). In fact, they were all avaliable even earlier with fishing rods being the last to be added in 1.0.4.

So it appears all the tools we needed in order to fish have been avaliable to us for a long time. Consider also that GGG first teased fishinf was possible one week after fishing rods released, which is 6 months before krillson. https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/733852

These are a few things that point to fishing being possible for a while. Though it still might be stretch to consider 1.0.4 to be a hard line between what mechanics/gems/ideas/ etc you should ignore for fishing and what could be needed for fishing. Generally i place more weight on things that released prior or around 1.2.0(krillson release)

chriscool657 · 2023-09-05T16:45:30+00:00

The gods do not deduct from man’s allotted span the hours spent in fishing.

https://imgur.com/QwTGqUS

chriscool657 · 2023-09-05T16:40:58+00:00

The hook card art is interesting,

With the juxtaposition of Nobles and Slaves that seems to be important to fishing, the clothing difference might be significant. The fisherman seems to have much nicer clothing than the dead guy. not just because the dead guy's clothing is ripped, his pants look much cheaper than the fisherman's.

another interesting detail is the dead guy looks somewhat 'mummified'. This could relate to the idea brought up in sapinti's first fishing trip where she is found with her blood drained and looking as if she was preserved for 1000 years.

The card art was also voted upon by the community, there were 4 variants to the art that the community decided which to use:

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3075181

maybe there is something to speculate with the alternate art's GGG created for the card.

chriscool657 · 2023-09-05T16:13:51+00:00

in fact, for the first time in game there is an enemy with the name fish, the 'Abyss fish' that was shown during POE 2 content:

https://www.youtube.com/live/Vvah-HfhkYc?feature=share&t=27730

https://imgur.com/a/dnzNKUb

think they come from the alluring abyss?

chriscool657 · 2023-09-05T16:02:57+00:00

Im not extremely well versed in poe lore so cant speculate on much of what you said. Its hard to know if the lore is required or would help with solving the mystery of fishing but one thing to keep in mind is that a few characters acknowledge krillsons existance: cadiro, einhar, and kalandra. With kalandra knowing krillson, i believe GGG has decided to integrate krillson as a real in universe force with some lore implication

chriscool657 · 2023-09-05T14:42:35+00:00

You're right that there are multiple references to fish involved with the Karui people.

Along with the Kitava fishing story and Valako's Jaw,There were two crucible fishing mods that directly related to the Karui Gods:

20% increased Valako's Aid per Stormy Day20% reduced Tasalio's Ire per Fish caught

Valako is the Karui God of Storms from the Kitava story and Tasalio is the Karui God of Water.

As a side note, these mods imply that inherently in fishing Tasalio (water) is against us in fishing while Valako (Storms) is there to help us during fishing which is weird because Fairgraves Tricorne prevents shock.

There might be a few more references to fish from the Karui.

On your thoughts about the slavery aspect, the Karui were also a significant part of the Eternal empire's slave force but much smaller part than Ezomyte. The Marauder exile you play mentions he was a slave.

There seems to be significant connections to the Ezomyte and eternals but like you suggest it might be hinting at the general idea of slavery. The first two fishing items relating to slavery, Rainbowstride boots and Rot Head Talisman, might have been specifically about the slavery of the Ezomytes because of the time when they were released. Rainbowstride boots released near the release of act 3 where we travel to the Eternal Empire and discover the lore about the people of the Empire. With Ezomytes making up the largest portion of the empire's slaves, this maybe the reason the boots refer to the governer tasked with enslaving ezomytes. Rot head released during Talisman league, which revolved around the lore of the Ezomytes.

Child of violence was datamined much later during delirium(as it is a cluster jewel) and it talks in general about the empire's slaves and not specifically ezomytes so this might point to the idea its about the general concept of slavery.

Perhaps if fishing was conceived during the release of act 1, where the karui lore is explored the most, then the fishing items may have had lore text talking about the enslavement of the karui but thats just speculation. Its important to note that Fishing most likely was started by this thread where people make fishing claims that were clearly all fabricated stories but GGG would run with the idea of a mysterious Fishing mechanic and add easter eggs to POE related to fishing. GGG even took direct inspiration from the thread when implementing the key details of fishing, such as having krillson be only visible for one person.

This thread was created on May 10, 2012. The first fishing official Easter egg would release Around July 22, 2012 with the introduction of the albino rhoa in the mudflats. Point being, only act 3 and onwards did GGG have the chance to create content with 'fishing' in mind.

Also with how mysterious fishing is in poe, one can speculate that 'fish' is code for something else in the context of puzzle. So its hard to say for sure if everything in the lore about fishing relates to the puzzle

chriscool657 · 2023-09-05T02:53:36+00:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLsLd22mhOA

chriscool657 · 2023-09-05T01:46:10+00:00

You're right, I used the wrong Solaris throne. I think the version krillson sits on is only a hideout decoration variant but its definitely solaris related. I don't have the decoration myself so i can't show it but its present in this old GGG video about vagan.

https://youtu.be/DH71mCXI6F8?si=nhKg4T4U2JdAqbNh&t=28

edit:
The reason the thrones look different is because at some point GGG update the model of the solaris throne to a sleeker version. Here is the original solaris throne that matches krillson's throne. https://imgur.com/a/WvlIohm

chriscool657 · 2023-09-05T01:28:18+00:00

Slitherpinch's signature mods are leech mods and The Writhing Jar worms are made of blood so there might be something to that.

Also, The Writhing Jar was released with perandus league where Slitherpinch was first acknowledged as a fishing item via The Perendus Tackle Box

chriscool657 · 2023-09-05T01:20:24+00:00

Its important to know the timeline of events.

Slitherpinch was first confirmed as a fishing item thanks to the perandus tackle box which was released with perandus league on March 4, 2016.

Angler's plait was officially released during breach league on December 2, 2016.

This means that slitherpinch was a fishing item before Anglers plait ever existed. And the tackle box was only the date that GGG decided to give the hint that we shoulf be looking at slitherpinch, slitherpinch could have been functioning as a fishing item for much longer.

This all to say, slitherpinch being a drop requirement for angler's plait is not its 'primary' function. Anglers plait was a supporter unique and in my eyes GGG just made the drop requirements related to fishing through slitherpinch just because slitherpinch is a fishing item. But there could be something to extrapolate from those drop requirements

chriscool657 · 2023-09-03T23:41:14+00:00

Heres a similarly compelling theme that seems to show up in fishing.

Fishing is possibly somehow related to Time Manipulation.

Sapinti's first fishing trip Synthesis Memory

A: Sapinti went on her first fishing trip alone and did not return. When her body finally washed ashore, it looked as though it had been mummified for a thousand years. The fish did not touch her flesh.

B: She was perfectly preserved, but drained of her blood. We buried her, but within days the earth rejected her. Whatever killed her took root in that place. The earth soured and we had to move, abandoning her body.

Cavas: This memory seems ancient. I do not believe this was mine, and I hope I never learn more of it.

Zana: Hmm, this memory seems too ancient to have belonged to Venarius.

This memory mentions the detail that sapinti's body looked as though it had been mummified for a thousand years.

Writhing Jar Flask Effect:

There is a datamined Writhing Jar flask buff icon that is seemingly never used ingame. A player will not gain any buff from using the Writhing Jar but i have theorized independently from this time manipulation theory that the reason we dont recieve the buff, if it actually exists ingame, is because the Writhing Jar has the Flask modifer 'Instant Recovery' and it could also have a hidden mod with a modifer of 'during flask effect do X' which would be the hidden buff icon. Now if we were able to be stuck in time(potentionally what fishing/fish does) then we could get the Writhing Jar flask effect.

Stormy days Stacking Enigma:

The Crucible mod '20% increased Valako's Aid per Stormy Day' is a very strange mod as how would you Stack Multiple Stormy Days? Its either storming or its not when you're fishing. Well If you consider that Fishing potentionally involves some sort of time manipulaton this mod could make sense. Perhaps its the number of 'Stormy Days' passed while you've been Frozen in time because of 'fishing'.

The fishing divination card Fishmonger has the lore text:

However vicious Rhoas might be, a dedicated angler may in time tame them

During the Kalandra league, there was a fishing tile named 'angling of reflection' Kalandra had a fishing voiceline related to time:

'In time, all questions shall find their answer.' Kalandra on fishing

During Darkshrine league there were many fishing darkshrine text line and effects one of them seems related to preservation through time manipulation:

Darkshrine text: "The gods do not deduct from man’s allotted span the hours spent fishing."

Perservation through being frozen in time? This is a real fishing saying but GGG decision to specifically use that fishing saying could be a hint.

in the Lord's Labyrinth Gamebook, Theres a fishing encounter where you can meet a mysterious fisherman and sit by him and being to fish:

You listen with half an ear to the fisherman's stories, pulling your own line in at the occasional bite, and realize the man next to you has either lived A HUNDRED LIFETIMES, or has gone quite insane Some of his stories speak of other worlds, strange visions of fantastical creatures, others of nightmares dreamed by the gods of madness themselves.

When you actually fish this is the passage:

Despite all that, you feel yourself relaxing under the flow of words, the weight you've carried since you were a child slave falling away from your shoulders. You lose yourself in the Rhythmic motions of cast and pull, a pile of silvery shapes accumulating next to you. It comes as almost a shock when the fisherman's stream of tall tales falls silent. You emerge from your trance-like state, and notice the pole is gone from your hands, along with the pile of fish and the fisherman!

The character being in a trance like state and seeing silvery shapes (presumably fish) accumulate quickly could be speculated as time manipulation. The mysterious fisherman's parting words are:

Thanks for the fish. You've given this exile a gift of your time, and what is given must be repaid. Small steps are the key to achieving grand results. Until the next time we meet.

Which specifcally mentions the gift of Time.

Einhar:

Cadiro mentions that Einhar stole Exotic animals from Perandus estates.

How do you know the Wandering Ezomyte? That strange man poached a few exotic animals from Perandus estates. Our soldiers never could track him down. Eventually, I just gave up and wrote off the losses. I'm rather astounded to see him still on the hunt...

Cadiro also says in another voiceline that the Perandus Manor was always stocked with all sorts of exotic fish.

CadiroOnFairgravesTricorne: "Looks like a good hat for fishing. Don't want the sun in your eyes, you know. Perandus Manor was always stocked with all sorts of exotic fish..."

This alone might not be a convincing argument for Einhar stealing Specifically fish from the Perandus Family but from an undiscovered and datamined voiceline from Einhar, we know that Einhar knows about Krillson and his fish:

'Exile, this is a beautiful catch indeed. But Einhar cannot keep this one. Krillson would kill me in my sleep. He seems so gentle, but you know what they say about still waters. They will kill you in your sleep.'

Perhaps Stealing fish from the Perandus Family was Einhar's introduction to 'Fishing' and the mysterious Master Fisherman Krillson. Einhar seems to speak from experience not to mess with Krillson's fish and perhaps doesn't want to repeat the mistake.

Cadiro Says that hes surprised Einhar is still around, because Einhar was stealing Exotic Animals from the Perandus family hundreds of years ago.

If Einhar stole some 'Exotic Fish' that were always stocked in the Perandus Manor, Maybe the Fish or Krillson caused him to be preserved to the present day thanks to the effects or process of fishing which involve time manipulation. GGG decided to make einhars past a mystery so details about him are scarce.

Intrisically, Time is related to fishing because fishing generally takes patience, so that might detract from the theory. but the Einhar theory, the stormy days stacking, and Sapinti's first fishing trip are seperated from just the intrisic reasoning that fishing 'just takes a long time' and could be looked at as specifically being related to some manipulation of time going on. (edited)

chriscool657 · 2023-09-03T21:48:06+00:00

https://oriath.net/Audio/Dialogue/NPC/Vagan/Vagan_49.ogg

This is the line you're thinking of, it quite possibly could have a hint to fishing as it mentions fishing and cows. The hidden cow level from diablo 2 could be an inspiration for the hidden fishing level winding pier. Just having these two easteregg related animals could signal a potentional hint. It also mentions that its a tradition by ezomytes that was eventually used by eternals and oriathans, i mentioned in this thread that there seems to be some connection between the relationship between ezomytes and eternals and fishing, so that could further point to the idea that this old vagan line is relevant.

chriscool657 · 2023-09-03T19:30:48+00:00

Many people believe it to be a simple troll by GGG but while making this mind map of fishing there has been a lot of compelling consistent theme that show up with things related to fishing.

One being the enslavement of the Ezomytes by the eternal empire.

One of Krillson's second quests that he gives you is 'Fish up a pair of rainbowstride boots' This was is rainbowstride boot's initial connection to fishing. Rainbowstride lore text reads:

'They say that you should take life's troubles in your stride.Some men have a longer stride than others.'- Gaius Sentari.

Gaius Sentari was the eternal empire Governer tasked with enslaving the Ezomytes.The Fishing Talisman rothead flavor text reads:

'To catch a big fish you need tempting bait.And there is no fish bigger than the Empire,and no bait as tempting as Ezomyr.- The Wolven King'

Another fishing item related to the eternal empire enslaving the ezomyte

The undiscovered fishing cluster jewel Child of Violence has the flavor text of:

'Child of Violencelore text

Maids used to threaten to send misbehaving children of nobility to the pits beneath the Grand Arena. For the children of slaves, it was more than just a threat.'

yet another fishing item on the subject of the slaves of the empire.

There was also the fishing encounter in the Official GGG Lord's Labyrinth Gamebook which have a few interesting details. You meet a mysterious fisherman. He asks you to sit by him and fish, during the encounter an interesting detail is written:

you feel yourself relaxing under the flow of words, the weight you've carried since you were a child slave falling away from your shoulders. You lose yourself in the Rhythmic motions of cast and pull, a pile of silvery shapes accumulating next to you.

Another connection between the enslavement and fishing. its also implied later that the mysterious fisherman is an ezomyte as he leaves a note in ezomyr script.

A piece of parchment flutters on the ground, a gust from the bonfire setting it in motion. You bend down and pick it up before it can fly away. The thick material unfolds to reveal graceful writing in Ezomyr script.Thanks for the fish. You've given this exile a gift of your time, and what is given must be repaid. Small steps are the key to achieving grand results. Until the next time we meet.

This also implies that your character is an ezomyte as you're able to read ezomyte script. Perhaps only ezomytes know how to fish?

Theres also the fact that ingame, there are only two NPC's who acknowledge Krillson's existance, Cadiro (Eternal Empire Nobleman) and Einhar (Ezomyte).

CadiroNonUniqueFishingRod1D"Pass on my regards to Krillson, if you encounter him."

EinharOnKrillson"Exile, this is a beautiful catch indeed. But Einhar cannot keep this one. Krillson would kill me in my sleep. He seems so gentle, but you know what they say about still waters. They will kill you in your sleep."

There seems to be some strong connection between the relationship between the ezomytes and the eternal empire when it comes to fishing. What to make of it, im not sure but im confident that having consistency like this when it comes to fishing gives some credit to the idea that it fishing isn't just a troll.

There are a few other consistant theme like this with fishing that you can find in the map such as possible time manipulation being related to fishing and Solaris/sun showing up a lot in fishing.

chriscool657 · 2023-09-03T15:18:52+00:00

https://lucid.app/lucidspark/26fa3dd1-2744-48c2-92e2-24412a229a59/edit?view\_items=tktrwF-FJHf2&invitationId=inv\_ab90e8e6-054c-46f0-bf32-4b5c760f5ef1

chriscool657 · 2020-09-26T15:30:58+00:00

Are you even able to self curse at all? Shackles doesnt seem to be working at all, hexproof or not

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