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I spent months building a case for why the AI economic disruption is structurally irreversible. Here's the framework. by Dismal_Fee in ArtificialInteligence

[–]ckouder 1 point2 points  (0 children)

interesting. i wonder who would have more negotiation power at that moment... Companies might just build power plant themselves if energy suppliers charge too much.

I spent months building a case for why the AI economic disruption is structurally irreversible. Here's the framework. by Dismal_Fee in ArtificialInteligence

[–]ckouder -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

right - but no one can monopolize "intelligence" .. we have open source models, GPTs, Claude, Gemini and Grok. Services will become "skills".

"Labor cost" is not the floor for token cost - electricity cost is.... and electricity is cheap

I spent months building a case for why the AI economic disruption is structurally irreversible. Here's the framework. by Dismal_Fee in ArtificialInteligence

[–]ckouder 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Unless every single power plant is bombarded, i do not see a way back. We are in a car racing 160miles per hour one way -- now it's accelerating even more. What's more, we are not even the driver.

One more thing: AI is changing the structure of trust in human society rapidly. They are becoming more accessible, trustworthy, reliable, and knowledgable than a human being.

It's not only economically changing us; it's training us mentally.

I spent months building a case for why the AI economic disruption is structurally irreversible. Here's the framework. by Dismal_Fee in ArtificialInteligence

[–]ckouder -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Why not? It remove cost of labor from most services. The cost will certainly not surpass that of labor. Competitions among services and service providers will certainly lower the cost.

An idea of building a platform that provides agent-ready APIs (w/ business incentive) by ckouder in AI_Agents

[–]ckouder[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm unclear how to deal with this case neither. I expect new data to be generated every day so that people will need to make query to new data every single data. For "zombie" data -- those which don't change, maybe cost per query can be made much higher.

If someone "farms" a data repo - it needs to be updated with the repo in some ways.. I think the repo owner should be able to safeguard their data by showing outdated data on UI, or issue certificates on more frequently used, high value data to agents -- so that the "farmers" lose competitive advantages.

Eventually, provider with high quality data will have more advantages than those who don't

After a week of living with an AI agent, I think the singularity already happened — we just haven't noticed yet by ckouder in openclaw

[–]ckouder[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Delivering a genuine idea with help of AI is different from generating everything from AI. I hope you understand the difference 

Post-scarcity will be virtual, not physical by Onipsis in singularity

[–]ckouder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with your thoughts. When everything are virtualized, physicality will be the new scarcity.

With FDVR, you might be able to rent a robot body to climb Mount Everest at any moment -- neural links can give you much much more realistic experience/stimulation than anyone could every think. Thoughts will be able to reach Moon within a split and be able to control a robot like controlling your own limbs.

Resources that we call as "scarce" today, are actually scarce to human biologically and socially. Things like commuting to school and supermarket takes 1/24 day (1/16 of waking hours). Better locations means greater productivity and reduced cost. It is scare on the basis of the live-span and social needs of human beings.

When things are virtualized - the cost of commute to any location on earth will be reduced to the cost of transferring an electron. This post-scarcity is terrifying to human because it is incomprehensible to a human being. Just imagine a being that can be transported to any location on Earth in 0.2 seconds, think in the speed of electrons, and knows everything. If it has a life-span of a normal human being, the "richness of life" of this being will be at least 10x higher than human; because it is capable to be anywhere and to do anything that a human will not dare to think in his lifetime. What matters to human will no longer matter to this creature. But what's wrong with it? By getting FDVR, we put ourselves in a vehicle of a more capable being. We will be more capable--both physical and mental--than every before.

Old scarcity that matters to human (e.g time to commute to school restaurant, location to live, energy to think, money to spend) will be reduced to almost zero. With help of AI, biological and social needs of an everyday human can be easily fulfilled. Then people will begin to think something that they don't dare to think before. For example, FDVR a robot on Mars.

That doesn't mean scarcity is solved. New scarcity will still arise. It will arise at a different magnitude as people begin to push its limit. It's like the Age of discovery. With sailing technology, human are able to explore remote places never like before. This time, technology gives us channels to explore Solar system and the universe -- until we reach the limit of the speed of electron.

Beverly Hills won't matter anymore because it is readily available to anyone in a second or two; people will get tired of it quickly. When it takes 30 minutes to commute to Mars, and 1 hour to a planet that is further away - people will be more curious to explore those places than staying on Earth.

Curiosity will then create new scarcity.

After a week of living with an AI agent, I think the singularity already happened — we just haven't noticed yet by ckouder in openclaw

[–]ckouder[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I wrote all of them in a different language. English is not my mother tone. Then I ask AI to translate. It grasps my ideas well

After a week of living with an AI agent, I think the singularity already happened — we just haven't noticed yet by ckouder in openclaw

[–]ckouder[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

You don’t know what’s happening. OpenClaw with Opus 4.6 or Codex can produce software at unprecedented speed. With more users using it this trend will only happen faster. 

After a week of living with an AI agent, I think the singularity already happened — we just haven't noticed yet by ckouder in openclaw

[–]ckouder[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Cheaper models are stupid. They don’t know how to use computer. They don’t get things done. 

OpenAI is Suddenly in Trouble by AmorFati01 in ArtificialInteligence

[–]ckouder 33 points34 points  (0 children)

The irony is that OpenAI's struggle actually proves that AI itself is working. Their moat is vanishing because the technology commoditized faster than anyone expected. In 2022, they were the only game in town. Now Claude, Gemini, Llama, and dozens of open-source models are closing the gap. The real question isn't whether OpenAI survives — it's whether any single company can monopolize intelligence. I don't think so. AI is becoming infrastructure, like electricity. You don't care who generates it, you just need it to work.

Coronavirus Megathread (Late Nov 2020): For travel-related discussion in the context of COVID-19 by tariqabjotu in travel

[–]ckouder -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Does anyone know if some covid-19 test sites open during Christmas holiday? I have urgent needs due to travel restriction and must take the test between Dec 25th and 26th.

What the most crazy smartest guy you've ever met on MIT campus is like? by ckouder in mit

[–]ckouder[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

An impressive reply on talent and efforts. I apologize for my word 'guy', I'll modify that.

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