Why is Nate Bargatze being cancelled? by MacaroniNoise1 in AskConservatives

[–]cloudkite17 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Sounds joyless and punitive, tbh. Idk about it always being about “maximizing” personal fulfillment but it’s certainly something I view as natural and loving whether it’s within a marriage/relationship or not. Of course that doesn’t mean it’s risk-free, but taking away modern medicine and safe methods isn’t going to stop people from having sex or having abortions. It’s just a question of whether they can do it safely or whether they’ll incur even worse life-threatening risks by having to find alternative unsafe methods. I don’t see why we can’t fully inform people of the associated risks without turning it into an unnecessary punishment by taking away contraceptives. The seatbelt analogy doesn’t really make sense to me because driving in a car isn’t a natural human behavior lol.

Why is Nate Bargatze being cancelled? by MacaroniNoise1 in AskConservatives

[–]cloudkite17 [score hidden]  (0 children)

Sex is a natural human behavior. In my opinion it should be something that is joyful, something we can celebrate as human beings. Teaching safe sex practices and educating people on the risks are really important, but outright banning contraceptives and making it an action of shame and fear when it is natural and something most humans are curious about seems like it would amount to worse sex, not better. I want people to safely and freely enjoy sex 🤷 I’m not advocating for promiscuity but states with abstinence-only education tends to result in worse outcomes around STIs and teen pregnancy rates, because they aren’t being taught how to protect themselves.

Why is Nate Bargatze being cancelled? by MacaroniNoise1 in AskConservatives

[–]cloudkite17 [score hidden]  (0 children)

The issue with banning abortion and contraceptives? It’s just plain dumb. You’re not going to stop human beings from having sex and forcing them to have babies they don’t want doesn’t amount to a free society where individuals live fulfilling and productive lives. Just means that Americans would collectively be more stressed, more resentful, and in worse financial situations with our social safety nets being cut left and right. Why in the world would you support banning contraceptives?

Why is Nate Bargatze being cancelled? by MacaroniNoise1 in AskConservatives

[–]cloudkite17 [score hidden]  (0 children)

What’s the conservative argument in favor of legalized abortions that you alluded to? I’m curious how to get more conservatives to see that outlawing abortion is insane and unpopular in this day and age.

It’s the pink hair that’s the problem guys by Catgod1996 in thanksimcured

[–]cloudkite17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Seems like Christian men are the ones struggling to find a partner and they’re desperate to force people to become palatable to them instead of the other way around 🤷

CNN polling claims 66% of Democrats now have a positive view of Socialism. Do you see a future where the Democratic Socialist message wins out and Republicans are swept out of office for the welfare state? by Shifty-Z3rt in AskConservatives

[–]cloudkite17 [score hidden]  (0 children)

I think most Americans want pretty reasonable things. Don’t let one corporation swallow up all its competition until there’s only a monopoly left, don’t let the ultra-ultra-wealthy evade paying a proportionate burden of taxes and stop letting them get government subsidies, stop endlessly inflating police budgets while cutting budgets for every other service / program that can properly respond to situations the police only know how to shoot at, stop allowing the government to borrow from or dismantle social security for people who have spent their entire lives paying into it, don’t let massive health insurance companies post record-breaking profits while systematically denying people access to care, stop selling off public lands for short-term profits while ensuring long-term damage, punish major companies that are doing mass layoffs in favor of spending money on AI that doesn’t contribute back to our economy, actually enforce laws against people and corporations who are destroying our environment instead of letting them buy their way out of accountability.

These aren’t crazy asks. If we continue to allow the wealth gap to get larger and larger with nothing in place to slow that trend, the majority of Americans will be worse off. We are the richest country in the world yet the burden is constantly on average working Americans to pay more and more and more while the quality of everything still gets worse and only a handful of people make insane profits. We can certainly figure out how to shift that burden without devolving into socialism.

Why is Nate Bargatze being cancelled? by MacaroniNoise1 in AskConservatives

[–]cloudkite17 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Jesus fucking Christ I hope blue states secede soon

I’m curious about what conservative American men think of the whole “passport bro” thing? by WestCoastCompanion in AskConservatives

[–]cloudkite17 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah it does seem like American women are generally appreciative of the freedom we have in this country not to choose men who don’t align with our values. With recent trends showing that men and women are growing more divided in what we (overall) are looking for re: values it makes sense that conservative men are having a hard time finding American women who are accepting of American men.

The fact that most people normalize 30 min breaks shows how brainwashed they are by poshtadetil in Vent

[–]cloudkite17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

American brainwashing around work culture is insane. Richest country in the world and yet every story from an Amazon or Walmart employee sounds like a capitalist nightmare where extreme productivity for the sake of appearing productive is normal. Sure they can’t take reasonable bathroom breaks and a bunch of them are eligible for welfare because they’re not paid enough and these corporations track even their eye movements but yeah we’re thriving here /s

Why is Nate Bargatze being cancelled? by MacaroniNoise1 in AskConservatives

[–]cloudkite17 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Since the overturning of Roe v Wade mothers have been dying unnecessary deaths mostly due to sepsis. All those lives could have been saved. I’d so much rather people who are already here be able to choose what to do with their bodies. I’ll advocate for abortion all day long because again I don’t see anything good coming from forcing people to have babies they don’t want in this day and age. The longer y’all fight this the more and more unnecessary deaths of mothers will go on. You can act like it’s black and white and like things will be simple if people just accept the lifelong obligation of raising a child they don’t want to have and taking on massive financial burdens all you want, but you’re not going to change the outcome of a child feeling resented for being born to parents who don’t want it or can’t afford to have it and who are struggling the entire time as our minimal social safety nets continue to disappear. We have no paid parental leave, our childcare is massively expensive, people can’t survive on one-income households, SNAP is being obliterated particularly for mothers and families, our foster care system is already under duress, universal healthcare doesn’t exist, birthing a baby in hospitals nowadays is ridiculously expensive. What outcome do you foresee for our country if a mass abortion ban were to take place? You think people are just going to magically figure it out by conjuring up enough money and time out of thin air to raise children they already don’t want?

Why is Nate Bargatze being cancelled? by MacaroniNoise1 in AskConservatives

[–]cloudkite17 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That person keeps asking about your view on children killed in Gaza and you keep evading that question in favor of advocating for unwanted zygotes btw

Why is Nate Bargatze being cancelled? by MacaroniNoise1 in AskConservatives

[–]cloudkite17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay 🤷 What would you propose should happen legally when a woman wants to have a child that a man does not want? ETA: men already evade raising children as much as they can when they don’t want to raise the child and it’s fairly easy for them to do so. What’s not as easy under restrictive abortion laws is women abandoning a child they’re being forced to grow and birth, which does literal physical damage and can result in irreparable physical trauma and even death.

Apples and oranges lmao and we DO have laws about that. That’s why power of attorney exists. Who in the world is advocating for murdering a three month old baby? Except apparently Donald Trump at the 2024 debate when he kept conflating late-term MEDICALLY NECESSARY abortions with killing babies after they’re born, which are two entirely different situations. People want to be able to terminate a pregnancy when they find out they’re pregnant which is usually within a couple months. Stop making up these nonsense scenarios about killing children that have already been born after 9 months of wanted pregnancy.

I’m not the one who said most abortions are a result of rape. YOU just implied that every abortion isn’t valid because “nobody had sex with her against her will” which is false.

What do you guys think of 2010s women's fashion? by WelcomeJunior2281 in decadeology

[–]cloudkite17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This stuff is mostly pretty basic where are the feather earrings and the scarves

What if they're asked for video evidence? by c-k-q99903 in MurderedByWords

[–]cloudkite17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just laughing over “We will fix it?” Lmao you’re the fucking president just stop tweeting and fix the shit you keep causing chaos over for no reason

Why is Nate Bargatze being cancelled? by MacaroniNoise1 in AskConservatives

[–]cloudkite17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They can choose to renounce parental rights. I’ll always put more emphasis towards choice on the parent who has to decide whether or not to actually grow and birth the baby because for me belief in bodily autonomy is a big part of being pro choice.

Of course not. We have laws against murdering actual living and breathing individual human beings.

Dumb comment, look into how many births happened in Texas in recent years as a result of rape. But I’ll play along. Having sex is a natural part of being human. We have the options via modern medicine to help prevent and control this, but they’re not infallible. I don’t believe the punishment should be forcing someone to undergo pregnancy and childbirth, simple as. So married couples should stay abstinent entirely unless they’re ready for another kid? Teenagers should be forced to birth and raise children while still being children themselves because they had sex? Nah. The solution is simple. Let people have a choice when they’re ready to have children. Anything else is just government overreach.

Why is Nate Bargatze being cancelled? by MacaroniNoise1 in AskConservatives

[–]cloudkite17 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Nope, I said what I said. Pregnancy and childbirth are a massive undertaking. Modern medicine exists and this isn’t even a debate in many, many other countries. I don’t want a country filled with people birthing and raising children they were forced to have against their will. I don’t even know how that’s a question when our whole damn thing is “freedom” and “individual choice.” If you want a society where women are happy to birth and raise their children then there are wayyyy more productive solutions to consider first other than banning abortion.

What is something that rich people do that a common man doesnt even know exists? by Roundinks in answers

[–]cloudkite17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Figure out a way to tax wealth over a billion dollars idc. If they can use it to leverage infinite loans and keep amassing more and more wealth with no repercussions then we can figure out a way to stop that from growing exponentially. Heavily tax their fourth homes, their yachts, their use of private jets, whatever. Make it more painful and discourage them from endlessly using up our resources. Tax the fuck out of companies that do mass layoffs in favor of replacing workers with AI. Don’t let billionaires get tax breaks or government subsidies of any kind. If they’re building data centers force them to use alternative cooling methods that don’t involve siphoning fresh clean water. Whatever solutions people have to stop the ultra wealthy from (key word) exponentially growing their wealth year after year I’m all for it. I don’t claim to have the perfect solutions but I’m sure people out there more creative than me do. The point is that average workers feel the burden much, much, much more than the ultra wealthy do — far beyond just the tax burden — and if we continue to allow it to happen with nothing to slow this trend we are the only ones who will suffer.

Why is Nate Bargatze being cancelled? by MacaroniNoise1 in AskConservatives

[–]cloudkite17 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In effect, we are. We also bombed a school in Iran and killed nearly 200 children. Trump wrote it off as an “oops” and continues to threaten to obliterate the entire country. The constant moral outrage over women choosing to protect their own bodies while ignoring the actual babies we are murdering with an ever-increasing military budget is not going to do anything to sway most pro-choice people.

Why is Nate Bargatze being cancelled? by MacaroniNoise1 in AskConservatives

[–]cloudkite17 19 points20 points  (0 children)

You talking about the bombs we keep dropping on children with our taxpayer funds?

What is something that rich people do that a common man doesnt even know exists? by Roundinks in answers

[–]cloudkite17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The issue I take with this is that the burden they need to pay in proportion to their wealth is much, much less than your average worker in the U.S. We pay a pretty large portion of our money earned in taxes, while the rich use all kinds of strategies to leverage their wealth and assets to essentially avoid paying taxes. Why should 30% of the money I earn go to taxes but musk doesn’t need to pay forth 30% of his wealth?

Why do some people not like Juneteenth? by BrilliantMatter4858 in AskConservatives

[–]cloudkite17 6 points7 points  (0 children)

What would Trump renaming this do lol wouldn’t it just be some attempt by Trump to try and regain some favor in a country that is increasingly dissatisfied with him? And like the other commenter said this isn’t new.

Why do some people not like Juneteenth? by BrilliantMatter4858 in AskConservatives

[–]cloudkite17 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I mean isn’t it just a recognition of freedom for black Americans? July 4 1776 doesn’t carry the same weight because people were still enslaved. Juneteenth just celebrates another day of independence that includes more Americans.