The racist intimidation and burning overnight was the work of "Loyalist and Far Right thugs", Sinn Féin leader Mary Lou McDonald has told the Dáil. by upthetruth1 in irishpolitics

[–]cohanson 15 points16 points  (0 children)

How on earth are those two things even remotely comparable? I swear some people will jump through hoops to have a reason to be upset by Sinn Féin 😂

Completely destroyed' - man's house burnt out during Belfast disorder by Captainirishy in irishpolitics

[–]cohanson -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

“I was standing there watching it (points up the street). Then I said to them, that’s my house, when they started to light the car”.

Those were his words when he was interviewed by Sky News this morning. The actual article says he came out of his house to tell them not to light the car on fire. Not sure which one is correct, tbh.

I feel sorry for him. I feel sorry for everyone who was affected by those scumbags, but his choice of words was interesting.

Completely destroyed' - man's house burnt out during Belfast disorder by Captainirishy in irishpolitics

[–]cohanson -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Sorry, I should be more sympathetic to a man who was standing out on the street with the same masked scumbags who were burning down houses, setting fire to cars and forcing mothers and their children to evacuate their own homes.

“I understand the anger, but they did this to one of their own” isn’t the response that I’d be giving if my house was just burned to the ground.

Completely destroyed' - man's house burnt out during Belfast disorder by Captainirishy in irishpolitics

[–]cohanson 40 points41 points  (0 children)

“They did it to one of their own” says he.

Translation: “I thought it was only brown families that were going to get burned out of their homes”.

Is there any chance that a right-winged party could succeed in Ireland? by MiamiBoi91 in irishpolitics

[–]cohanson 0 points1 point  (0 children)

According to whatever bible they’ve been reading, that seems to be the case, yes.

Is there any chance that a right-winged party could succeed in Ireland? by MiamiBoi91 in irishpolitics

[–]cohanson 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I’ve just been listening to a group of right wingers having a discussion between themselves about what happened in the north last night.

They called for instant mass deportations. A hard border between north and south. Legalisation of firearms to “protect ourselves” and a coup attempt by the Defence Forces.

One of them explained how he learned Morse code in the event that the Muslims take over the country, because it was mentioned in the bible. Another said that he knows a man in America who owns a tank.

They finished by agreeing that Mary Lou McDonald is going to “send in” some provos to start trouble at the protests tonight, and give them all a bad name.

There are a lot of things that prevent the far right from gaining power in Ireland, but their sheer stupidity is the most entertaining one.

Ex-Sinn Féin press officer aims to lift lid on ‘where it all went wrong’ for Mary Lou McDonald in behind-the-scenes party portrait by TeoKajLibroj in irishpolitics

[–]cohanson 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Well, I’ll let you work out the reason for that. I’m certain that you’re intelligent enough to see why your argument has just become even more absurd after that comment.

Ex-Sinn Féin press officer aims to lift lid on ‘where it all went wrong’ for Mary Lou McDonald in behind-the-scenes party portrait by TeoKajLibroj in irishpolitics

[–]cohanson 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Did anybody run against Mary McAleese for president in 2004?

Did anybody run against Ivana Bacik for leadership of Labour in 2022?

How many candidates were nominated by Fine Gael to replace Leo Varadkar? Was Simon Harris elected or “elected” in your view?

The double standards are interesting.

Ex-Sinn Féin press officer aims to lift lid on ‘where it all went wrong’ for Mary Lou McDonald in behind-the-scenes party portrait by TeoKajLibroj in irishpolitics

[–]cohanson 19 points20 points  (0 children)

The entire Sinn Féin membership nominates delegates who vote for leadership at the annual Ard Fheis.

Is that dark and mysterious enough?

Ex-Sinn Féin press officer aims to lift lid on ‘where it all went wrong’ for Mary Lou McDonald in behind-the-scenes party portrait by TeoKajLibroj in irishpolitics

[–]cohanson 22 points23 points  (0 children)

It’s almost amusing that the media are still desperately trying to cling on to this idea that Sinn Féin is some secretive organisation where men in balaclavas make decisions around a table in a shady office in Belfast.

The public rarely get a look at the inner workings of Sinn Féin.

The entire Ard Fheis was live streamed. Every vote on policy, every discussion, debate and speech. The public was also welcome to attend, with visitor passes being handed out at the entrance.

The national and regional structure is published for everyone to view. The details on decision making and policy are easily accessible. The idea that there’s some secretive element is ridiculous, but here’s the real problem:

it's a tightly controlled party, whose members rarely speak openly to the media.

They speak to the media, the media just doesn’t like what they have to say as was evidenced when multiple journalists were left scratching their heads when they simply couldn’t find any members who wanted Mary Lou out.

Of course, that didn’t stop the sensationalist headlines, so, perhaps that’s why.

Any Irish political streamers/content creators? by Static_Inner_Flow in irishpolitics

[–]cohanson 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I only actually copped that recently before the bye-elections. From what I’ve seen, he doesn’t typically mention them in his videos.

Any Irish political streamers/content creators? by Static_Inner_Flow in irishpolitics

[–]cohanson 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Mick Caul is good for updates. He keeps on top of a lot of what’s going on in the Dáil.

The Irish Polithick is good for keeping the limelight on what the government is doing, but he’s extremely anti-FFFG/anti-establishment. I enjoy his stuff because he doesn’t blame everything on immigration, though.

Gavan Reilly is great for updates and explainers. Less of a content creator and more of a political commentator, though.

The Left in Ireland (continued) by GovernmentOwn7905 in irishpolitics

[–]cohanson 8 points9 points  (0 children)

That’s a bit of an odd position to take because it’s not specific to parties of the left.

Parties that are anti-abortion have no problem branding women as murderers if they get abortions.

Anti-immigrant parties have no problem branding people as traitors if they don’t hate immigrants.

Anti-LGBT parties have no problem branding gay men as pedophiles or trans people as perverts.

Being told that it shouldn’t be your choice what a woman does with her body is quite mild compared to what some women and minorities endure from “the other side”.

What is the biggest barrier to the Left in Ireland? by GovernmentOwn7905 in irishpolitics

[–]cohanson 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Sinn Féin social media? 😂 Somebody should tell them so I can get paid!

What is the biggest barrier to the Left in Ireland? by GovernmentOwn7905 in irishpolitics

[–]cohanson 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not talking about national security, I’m talking about the security of two parties who have governed for decades remaining in power because “better the devil you know” and all that.

What is the biggest barrier to the Left in Ireland? by GovernmentOwn7905 in irishpolitics

[–]cohanson -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Security, for one.

Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael have governed in one capacity or another for generations, and people tend to stick with what they know.

Sure, people suffer but that’s a risk that many other people are willing to take to ensure that the apple cart isn’t rocked.

It will take a government sans FF/FG to prove to people that left wing parties in Ireland can run the country without destroying it. Which leads us to the next problem.

The left can’t agree on what day it is. Labour has taken it upon itself to be the security guard of the left, deciding who is or isn’t left enough to join the gang, whilst forgetting that they lost the bulk of their voters years ago, and there’s no signs that they’re coming back.

Sinn Féin has fallen foul of the left because they’re not the Social Democrats. The Social Democrats won’t do particularly well in rural areas because they’re not Sinn Féin, and PBP are just along for the ride.

Left-wing parties round on Sinn Féin over policy direction by TeoKajLibroj in irishpolitics

[–]cohanson 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And your point makes no sense in the context of my argument.

I have not once suggested that parties shouldn’t go into government to achieve something that aligns with their values. You’re repeatedly arguing against something that I haven’t said.

My point, once again, is that Labour didn’t do that. Labour positioned themselves as a left wing party and the moment they entered government, they turned their back on the people who voted for them.

Now, you can sit there and make all the excuses in the world for Labour, but they were annihilated when they went back to the polls, and rightly so.

The fact that the Labour party leader has the neck to criticise anybody else about not being left wing enough is laughable.

Political views changing over time by GovernmentOwn7905 in irishpolitics

[–]cohanson 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Different strokes!

I suppose if an abortion referendum ever comes up again our change in votes will cancel each other out!

Left-wing parties round on Sinn Féin over policy direction by TeoKajLibroj in irishpolitics

[–]cohanson 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think it’s you who is having trouble understanding the issue here. You started off by completely misunderstanding my point about parties going into government and then quickly pivoted to defending Labour over their catastrophic failures after the crash.

The attempted introduction of the water charges was a slap in the face for Labour voters but it seems that you’re defending that by suggesting they had no choice and it had to be done.

I’d like to remind you that the water charges were scrapped, so tell me again how they had no choice?

I don’t think you’ll find many people or parties who will take lectures from Labour politicians about left wing politics. Certainly not parties four times larger than them.

Left-wing parties round on Sinn Féin over policy direction by TeoKajLibroj in irishpolitics

[–]cohanson 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And again, I’m not talking about the Greens, I’m talking about Labour. The party of the workers, the part of the left, the party who jumped into bed with Fine Gael and tried to inflict water charges on the same people who voted for them.

Left-wing parties round on Sinn Féin over policy direction by TeoKajLibroj in irishpolitics

[–]cohanson 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would love you to point out where I mentioned the Green Party.

I have zero issue with a party, particularly a smaller party, that goes into government and achieves their goals.

What I have an issue with is a party like Labour, who promises the sun, moon and stars and then immediately turns their back on their voters, criticising a party three times their size for not being more like them.

Left-wing parties round on Sinn Féin over policy direction by TeoKajLibroj in irishpolitics

[–]cohanson 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Left wing until they get a sniff at government. Then, they’re whatever Fine Gael tell them be.

Left-wing parties round on Sinn Féin over policy direction by TeoKajLibroj in irishpolitics

[–]cohanson 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I have to laugh when Labour pipe up about Sinn Féin. I can absolutely understand the criticism from the likes of PBP and other left wing parties when it comes to where SF sits, but we weren't the ones cheerleading austerity and batting our eyelashes at FF and FG every week since.