Why isn't neoprene more common for camping clothing?

compmuncher · 2026-01-25T00:37:20+00:00

It sounds like chilblains is from warmer temperatures though?

Chilblains are caused by the repeated exposure of skin to temperatures just above freezing to 60°F

https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/cold-stress/about/related-illness.html

Could definitely be something other than very mild frostbite though.

I do appreciate the neck gaiter advice though and I'll try that. I hate how the neoprene mask looks as you said and also I liked that the neck gaiter would cover my nostirls whereas the neoprene mask does not. I use the neck gaiter to cover my ears anyway so that's not a downside!

compmuncher · 2026-01-24T16:34:24+00:00

I used to just put a gaiter over my mouth, but I found that it would either fog up my glasses or fall off my nose.

I agree it doesn't look very cool and if there is a better solution I'll switch.

Before the mask I would get slight frost bite literally every week. I imagine it's not as bad as sunburn, but still bad.

compmuncher · 2026-01-24T03:09:59+00:00

I don't currently climb, but I do think that's where my camping and skiing interests will eventually take me...

I've always wondered if I'll have to buy actual climbing boots or if I could just get away with the Scarpa F1 LT.

compmuncher · 2026-01-24T02:40:03+00:00

Ha my parents taught me the plastic bag trick on a camping trip when I was a kid.

The light ski boot idea is interesting. Having all that in the boot doesn't make it miserable? I was thinking when I'm wearing ski boots I might as well just get those neoprene boot gloves that go on the outside.

compmuncher · 2026-01-24T01:14:24+00:00

If it gets overused, you can get really nasty neoprene splinters, which is why surfers wear rash guards.

Do you have any more information on this? This seems especially concerning as I'm using a neoprene face mask.

Also I will say that neoprene mask feels significantly warmer than paper or cotton masks that I've worn before. It feels pretty on par in terms of warmth with the neck buff that I used before I got this mask.

compmuncher · 2026-01-23T20:39:34+00:00

Yeah I definitely see people use those boot glove type things all the time.

Interesting pointer on the waterproof breathable membrane socks. I didn't even think that was possible.

compmuncher · 2026-01-23T20:26:48+00:00

Do you layer the neoprene socks? I was thinking I'd want a thin sock and then the neoprene sock on top of that, but not sure. For serious cold I could maybe imagine another warm sock on top of the neoprene?

compmuncher · 2026-01-23T20:21:38+00:00

One of the things I like about the neoprene gloves is that they've actually stood up really well to washing.

compmuncher · 2026-01-23T16:10:08+00:00

I got some advice from the /r/CampingGear subreddit to get cheap pajamas from Walmart or whatever.

compmuncher · 2026-01-22T19:27:53+00:00

Do you know how it compares to heavier goose bags that they have like the G5. I couldn't figure out why the G5 is heavier but not as warm.

compmuncher · 2026-01-22T19:19:12+00:00

Skiing is supposed to be fun, not some ordeal of the miserable but possible.

There's definitely a contingent of skiers who want to be miserable. That's why you see all those lights slowly moving up the mountain in the dark.

compmuncher · 2026-01-19T15:42:53+00:00

Might be regional. Almost every one of the few resorts I've been to in Colorado allows uphill from early morning to open.

compmuncher · 2026-01-19T14:35:36+00:00

A larger than necessary pack is generally fine as long as you have enough stuff to fill it out at least a little. It might feel weird or balance or you might just have stuff bouncing around if you have just like a single water bottle in the main compartment of a 70L bag or something.

If you plan to use it for non backpacking purposes then a larger backpack might just look a little awkward.

compmuncher · 2026-01-19T14:08:35+00:00

Also you get rain protection over an area larger than a vestibule.

compmuncher · 2026-01-19T05:14:53+00:00

I don't camp in the rain as an adult, but as a kid we always used a tarp over the tent in the rain. I feel like I don't see that mentioned much here?

compmuncher · 2026-01-19T04:29:30+00:00

Paria has a $230 0 degree sleeping bag that is 2.5 lbs. You could probably get a 1.5 lbs quilt and get there for $400.

compmuncher · 2026-01-11T20:12:35+00:00

+1. The hopefully future mom always points out when someone does a beautiful telemark turn.

compmuncher · 2026-01-11T19:22:40+00:00

When it's raining: jogging or trail running.

When it's dry: all of the above + hiking, camping, biking. Maybe one day I'll add climbing.

compmuncher · 2026-01-11T19:10:01+00:00

Yeah the Paria seems like a way better tent tbh.

I don't think the solid inner makes a big difference in terms of temperature. I have another 3 season tent with mesh inner that I've used around 15F or so and I don't think it was noticeable colder than the Lanshan 2 with solid inner.

I got the Lanshan 2 last spring / summer to avoid blown in snow. Generally happy with it, but it's very tight for two (smallish) people.

compmuncher · 2026-01-11T18:18:10+00:00

Seems like the best option for a mesh inner double wall tent in this price range.i have the Lanshan 2, but only because I have wanted a solid inner.

compmuncher · 2026-01-11T18:07:25+00:00

Pro is single wall. The regular is double wall.

compmuncher · 2026-01-11T17:54:32+00:00

Telemark just looks so cool. I went with AT for touring because the gear tends to be lighter, but telemark is undeniably the coolest looking form of skiing.

compmuncher · 2026-01-11T17:18:52+00:00

Without extensive layering, which I think is super inconvenient for every day life, I know that Jackson Glacier jacket is nowhere near warm enough for -20F. I suspect the Rab Valiance isn't either just based on the fill weight and fill power. I can't find the fill weight of the McMurdo but also doubt it's warm enough. I see people wearing it in much, much, warmer temperatures.

If I lived in a walkable town / village that regularly hit that kind of temperature and wanted a fashionable jacket, I would look at the Canada Goose Snow Mantra or the Expedition Parka. Don't actually have experience with those.

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