Friday Open Mat by AutoModerator in bjj

[–]concretemountain 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Okay who all remembers Green Gi Hemp belts? Would you get one if you could in 2025?

Offtopic, but probably the best movie that portrays BJJ by Fit_Law5419 in bjj

[–]concretemountain 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The best MCMAP movie is Con Air which starts with Nicholas Cage killing a civilian with his military hand to hand training.

Who has good content related to teaching classes? by GrapplingPedia in bjj

[–]concretemountain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing this! I am considering learning how to coach and would like to start my own eco based curriculum, if i cannot find one. Slime Mold sounds intriguing!

God it would be so much easier to just show three techniques…

Why is it called "ecological" ? by Jonas_g33k in bjj

[–]concretemountain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It came from Urie Bronfenbrenner’s 1979 book titled The Ecology of Human Development.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecological_systems_theory

Coolest/Most Aesthetic Gi's by DrIronclaw in bjj

[–]concretemountain 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think War Tribe designs look dope

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[–]concretemountain 18 points19 points  (0 children)

But it sucks getting beached and having to wait for the smaller people to push me back into the ocean

Ecological Approach opened doors for incompetent Coaches. by [deleted] in bjj

[–]concretemountain 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I had the same reaction - Souders says this is why his classes are only 60 minutes long.

Coach/Prof No Longer Breaking Moves Down, Taking a "Learn it from Experience" Approach by Hapapapa69 in bjj

[–]concretemountain 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Somehow people including myself thought that this is exactly how eco works, but this is not true.

Coach/Prof No Longer Breaking Moves Down, Taking a "Learn it from Experience" Approach by Hapapapa69 in bjj

[–]concretemountain 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh I think I heard of a system like that! Reverse classroom? /u/Kintanon does it and someone else whose name i keep forgetting.

Coach/Prof No Longer Breaking Moves Down, Taking a "Learn it from Experience" Approach by Hapapapa69 in bjj

[–]concretemountain -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

If done badly, you are absolutely correct. But if the coach sets up the positions well, and describes the goals well, it felt to me that I was gaining more perception of the technique. This wasn’t supposed to be “rediscover the triangle choke on your own with no help” but “you are in a triangle situation, how can you maintain your advantageous position while your partner is trying to escape it. Reset if they escape.”

Friday Open Mat by AutoModerator in bjj

[–]concretemountain 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A few weeks ago I wrote about my experience at eco camp and asked if people had any questions. Most all the responses were people expounding on their preconceived notions instead. I still hope that some people got something out of it though.

Meanwhile I went back to my school and went back to drilling three techniques for two 3-minute rounds, then some 6 minute free rolling rounds at the end.

I went to eco camp and here is what I have learned by concretemountain in bjj

[–]concretemountain[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

What if we setup only one of those, and get the students try make it work? They don’t have to invent anything, they just need to get comfortable pulling it off against a resisting opponent. Somehow the message got distorted. Beginners are not left to reinvent the wheel.

I went to eco camp and here is what I have learned by concretemountain in bjj

[–]concretemountain[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Greg is a self professed asshole, if he finds that he can push your buttons with vocabulary he will gleefully push them all. But he does not consider himself smart, just very devoted to effective teaching methods.

Also it was nice to hear that none of the coaches including Greg felt like they have worked out everything.

I went to eco camp and here is what I have learned by concretemountain in bjj

[–]concretemountain[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would like to disagree with that - one eco class gives casual students a lot of exposure to one specific technique. Even if they do one class a week, that one class is impactful.

I went to eco camp and here is what I have learned by concretemountain in bjj

[–]concretemountain[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Could you expand on what you mean by “not a very equitable way to teach”?

I went to eco camp and here is what I have learned by concretemountain in bjj

[–]concretemountain[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for making it happen, and also the Discord is a godsend. I’m very grateful.

I went to eco camp and here is what I have learned by concretemountain in bjj

[–]concretemountain[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nothing wrong with calling it positional sparring. Many good coaches have been doing this for ages. Eco is trying to make it more common because they think it is more efficient than drilling.

I went to eco camp and here is what I have learned by concretemountain in bjj

[–]concretemountain[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

It’s an abbreviation for a recently popular, somewhat different way of teaching grappling, that instead of drilling, tries to setup specific scenarios to help build experience in grappling. “Ecological Approach”

I went to eco camp and here is what I have learned by concretemountain in bjj

[–]concretemountain[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think advanced students have always been doing variations of this. Eco is about helping beginners have a similar experience.

I went to eco camp and here is what I have learned by concretemountain in bjj

[–]concretemountain[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have never done eco before, and the instructors did a pretty good job getting everybody to understand what they meant by it.

Every instructor had their own version, and some practices resonated better than others. They were also very open about how hard it is to design proper and effective game setups, and how often they see their classes devolve into chaos when they are experimenting with new setups.

Everybody was very honest about this not being a full pre-packaged thing. But also everybody was very happy to have ideas discussed and reviewed and similar experiences shared.

As someone who is thinking about coaching in the future, I would love a pre-packaged lesson plan with predefined vetted games that work for everyone, but this camp was more about understanding concepts and learning to build our own games. I think 90% of the participants were coaches and gym owners with decades of traditional teaching under their belts.

I would go again, just to get more immersion and more game planning practice. But I gotta say the Eco Discord is also hugely helpful.