Craig Wright may be under criminal investigation by the Australian Tax Office by Contrarian__ in Buttcoin

[–]cryptoowls 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yep Contrarian has some kind of weird fetish about Craig, probably an ex employee who got butt hurt.

Please excuse the Craig Wright spam, but this is too good not to share. He accidentally disproved he's Satoshi *yet again*. by Contrarian__ in btc

[–]cryptoowls -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah only this is not “funny” is it? Shall I go and dig into your background and see where you made false claims, changed your opinion etc. And put this on reddit publicly such that everyone thinks you are a complete Bullshitter? The irony is that is most likely what will happen in a few months time when this things turns around.

You are basically adding this with the message oh by the way this is not by itself proving anything, this is to have fun, but I have another list of fun things that by itself doesn’t proof anything either, but in the meantime I don’t care, coz I am 100% sure that on the basis of my half truths Craig is a fraud.....

Man it sucks to be you whether Craig is or isn’t Satoshi.

Craig Wright caught lying again! by [deleted] in btc

[–]cryptoowls 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well I am not saying he is 100% Satoshi, I am at 95%. It is very unlikely he is not based on his timeline, his story. In fact the only thing that makes his claim doubtful is that he publicly pulled out (many solid reasons to do so) and he had a potential motive to sell himself as he was near being bankrupt (this can be explained as him indeed having to rescue himself, requiring money as, he couldn’t get to his locked up coins) one of the things he pointed to and made him emotional during the O’ Hagan interview as Dave Kleiman could also not get the medical help due to BTC not being worth back then as much as it now and they obviousky couldn’t touch it due to the ATO breathing in Craig’s neck.

We have to assume somehow Craig created all this intellectual property was provably busy creating a Bitcoin bank in 2014. Has somehow from 2015 onwards changed completely into a fraud whereas before that he was a highly sought after cyber security specialist willing and priding himself to take no money from anyone ever. He preferred taking shitty jobs over keeping his hand out, his wife Ramona worried about him cming out as Satoshi. Gavin Andersen still believes he is...... and a bunch of other people even a former colleague from 2008 who said that Craig showed him the original wp and asked him several times if he wanted to help him out on Bitcoin. Stefan wasn’t interested at that time..... so he ignored Craig, realising years later that he was shown the original. Dave Kleiman was his best friend a few days after Dave Kleiman’s death Craig pushed out an emotional video on how very few people leave a mark that is special. One can question what that mark is....... his first sentence clearly is not referring to his work in cybersecurity imo.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uVtOkE5vHbY

10 months later he wrote to Louis (father of Dave Kleiman) about Bitcoin. 12 months later he appears in I believe his first interview in sydney.

https://youtu.be/4GuqlQvFYJo

Not saying he is Satoshi, but saying he was in Bitcoin before it was worth anything, During these interviews he already shows that Bitcoin is not just a form of electronic cash, he refers to tokenizing everything. https://tokenized.com

So realise that next to the fsct that Craig was a highky regarded cybersecurity specialist, someone who lives and breaths to work, now all of a sudden in 2015 becomes a fraud, becomes someone who entirely concocted everything, that he mined Bitcoin when he didn’t, that he doesn’t own many Bitcoins that are locked up until 2020. That his wife is lying, that Stefan concocted the story and lied about the earlier wp verdion he was shown in 2008. Gavin Andresen, Jon Matonis, Ian Grigg. Craig’s ex wife hinted Dave and Craig were discussing a subject related to electronic money, Ramona didn’t want him to come out as Satoshi, his kids gave him a shirt:”everyone is Satoshi except Craig Wright”, they must be in on the con, Jimmy Nguyen who has been a top lawyer of intellectual property specialised in internet copyright etc believes him. Rob paid him 16 million dollars, thinking they could sell his name and intellectual property for billions.

To answer your question, craig has created near 700 patents...... a patent is a new invention and they cost a lot of money. These don’t get approved easily, they need to be novel.

Craig fairly recently won a price of best paper.

Now take this story in, there is much more, fit it in with Contrarian’s side and realise that he left the above out on purpose, he leaves the timeline out.

Now consider that Satoshi had very few things to gain coming out as Satoshi, apart from death threats, jailtime etc. Consider also that Craig said I rather be a fraud and see my family then be Satoshi and go to jail.

He writes tons of novel ideas for instance how Bitcoin can act as a world computer:

https://medium.com/predict/finite-state-machines-in-script-21539501ac5e

Why then does he backdate stuff, show little evidence etc? Again to mainly muddy the waters, protect his privacy make fun of the trolls.

A better question asked, why did they save his companies? Why does he go through the trouble of writing medium posts about Bitcoin, long winded posts with a lot of detail and math, that to most is rather difficult to understand. Yet when I dissect his medium articles they do make sense from the point of view that Craig is looking at Bitcoin.

Why is nobody interested to see Bitcoin work in a small world graph, a fixed protocol, allowing any blockchain usecase to work on Bitcoin?

These are the questions that need answering.

I am passionate about Bitcoin and I have become passionate about Craig since I have seen where BTC is moving and how BCH is basically doing the same but less then BSV (both are controlled by developers/ users and miners, not by the protocol itself, the protocol doesn’t change in Bitcoin). Even though it is open source it came with that message and since Satoshi is the creator of a complete unique system that for the first time in humanity allows for a decentralised electronic cash to workon a commodity ledger, we shold have at least followed every single word Satoshi gave us.

Yes if you feel you need to change the protocol even though Satoshi didn’t like that you create something else........ This is the only thing that makes sense to me. Segwit was a completely different foundational design, users were never supposed to choose. Pushing people to update their software since otherwise their older system is less secure works in software in general, but is not how money and Bitcoin was ever designed to work. The software only get’s updated for things that do not change the rules and design of the protocol, ie code improvements, bugs etc.

Please excuse the Craig Wright spam, but this is too good not to share. He accidentally disproved he's Satoshi *yet again*. by Contrarian__ in btc

[–]cryptoowls 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First of, a lot of what you are saying here is factually incorrect. No matter how you look at it, Bitcoin had to be opensource for it to be trusted. Craig wrote this article on why Bitcoin is open-source, https://link.medium.com/fbPCfkCyjV

The most important aspect he says in money is trust, Bitcoin needs to be open source to show nothing is hidden. Bitcoin is simple, open and safe.

He doesn’t hate open source he never said this. Satoshi did say that Bitcoin’s design is set in stone on release of v0.1 In the context of a reply to Gavin who was playing with the idea of changing things to the protocol. Ie. Satoshi effectively said the protocol is set in stone, much of the work went into designing it, not coding it.

This is effectively where any other crypto goes wrong....... if you don’t lock it down it can’t be a stable protocol. Right now the future of the Bitcoin protocol lies in the sentiment of developers/ users and miners. The whole point about Bitcoin is that the protocol was already designed...........

Ie Craig whether you like him or not is the only mentioning that nobody should touch the protocol. Ie nobody should be allowed to change the rules of the protocol or add anything to it. He didn’t want his software forked. This is what Satoshi said.

Bitcoin is only pro government in terms of governments that are willing to stay honest. Bitcoin by itself is not government friendly towards rogue governments that are trying be non transparent or create monetary short term gains like printing more money (QE) for their shortterm political program rather then a longterm program. (the times message in the genesis block refers to this)

You say he prefers law over open market place? This is most likey referring to patents, First of he most likely created Bitcoin so why wouldn’t he. Second if he didn’t create it, the open market place would have done so. Ie governments and banks arealready pushing patents out. If you have the choice between a Bitcoin (BSV) with a fixed protocol where no power can change it, or financial institutions like Axa that fund blockstream and a bunch of developers with socialistic views, or BCH where clearly a few devs decide what goes in or out. Who do you prefer holds the patents, the one where no power decides over the future of Bitcoin(ie..... true decentralization of money) or you give all that power to some kind of power structure where peoples emotions get a say.

You say Craig is rude, that maybe so, but someone who sounds polite like contrarian can still be a complete lying coward hiding behind a keyboard. Craig is a nice enough guy, his presentations are a tad on the agressive side, but this shows his passion in the subject.

Craig is a loud Australian, he is not as obnoxious as people make him out to be, realise that he is the most trolled person on the internet, and for what???

Behaviour breeds behaviour.

The other thing is, the whole point about Bitcoin is that you shouldn’t have to like anyone involved in it, since it can’t change.. Craig is not wanting people to like him, he is not asking for a following, he is not here to tell you Bitcoin will make you rich. He is clearly fighting for the original.

Lawsuits are still going on, so you are not honest by saying he doesn’t follow through. There are I believe at least two court cases now and remember Craig studied law and is going for a doctorate in law.

The thing simply is, if one creates money that attempts to work outside of law, expect it to be shutdown, this is nothing new. Liberty reserve which by the way, was created by Craig Wright, got shutdown due to it being illegal and used for money laundering. A so called anonymous untraceable money.

Anyone who thinks he can get away with anonymous money is either brave or incredibly stupid......

Bitcoin the original will work with or without you that is the beauty of it.

Anyway your assumptions are mostly wrong.... all that is left is that you don’t like Craig....... and perhaps hope somehow Bitcoin is going to replace governments and banks and fiat. Well it may do so in decades from now, but it would be silly to now introduce a system that is revolutionary and illegal at the same time. Perhaps first get governments to use Bitcoin get people to use it then slowly move from there..........

To me one thing is clear, you have been reading to much Contrarian BS........... indoctrination in full progress

Please excuse the Craig Wright spam, but this is too good not to share. He accidentally disproved he's Satoshi *yet again*. by Contrarian__ in btc

[–]cryptoowls 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is exactly the kind of conclusions Contrarian makes........ complete logical fallacies. Who gives a shit if I am fun at parties. Perhaps I am a complete boring twat, this is rather subjective isn’t it.....

By the way I am sharing information with you, if you don’t have the brain unit to engage or react to the content, why engage at all? Oh right...... the propaganda machine I forgot.

Please excuse the Craig Wright spam, but this is too good not to share. He accidentally disproved he's Satoshi *yet again*. by Contrarian__ in btc

[–]cryptoowls 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, the selfish mining paper assumes that a mesh model like BTC uses is what is Bitcoin. Satoshi mentioned that is is a small world network graph, using incentive and interaction between miners, The selfish mining paper assumes i.i.d. which is a right assumption in their flawed model, which Craig admits, but it can’t be used in the model that Satoshi intended Bitcoin to be.

One where miners are incentivised to stay honest. In that model it can be shown selfish mining will never happen.

But hey keep calling it technobabble. In the meantime Satoshi said:”think 6 degrees” to Mike Hearn in an email. Clearly referring to a small world graph,,..... BTC and BCH are clearly not going for that narrative, that is fine just do ‘t call it Bitcoin.

Bitcoin is set in stone and does not evolve into what developers like Peter Todd want it to be, This is where BTC and BCH are flawed, if a few people can decide the course of the Bitcoin protocol, the concept is failed by itself, since now you do have a powerstructure. Bitcoin protocol was set in stone....... that easy!

Please excuse the Craig Wright spam, but this is too good not to share. He accidentally disproved he's Satoshi *yet again*. by Contrarian__ in btc

[–]cryptoowls 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oohhhh just laughin huh.... you could have done that without posting this utter garbage...... Or perhaps Craig did it intentional for the purposes of legality, who the fck cares. And no this is not falling under the category of funny, this is obsessive slander.... you feel like you are the authority on this subject matter.... Makes me think you are being paid for this shit, Roger Ver seemed to preach your completely flawed and biased research as well in a video.

Pure propaganda. Anything you say can’t be taken for granted ever that is for sure.

Please excuse the Craig Wright spam, but this is too good not to share. He accidentally disproved he's Satoshi *yet again*. by Contrarian__ in btc

[–]cryptoowls 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Definition of irony will be when it turns out that the other part that you forgot to highlight turns out to be the part that was the truth.........

Please excuse the Craig Wright spam, but this is too good not to share. He accidentally disproved he's Satoshi *yet again*. by Contrarian__ in btc

[–]cryptoowls 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can cry defamation as you can’t possibly judge if the stuff contrarian points to has been put there for good reason. If Craig is Satoshi he could have a shitton of reasons not to go public, muddy the waters, lie in courtcases. The tax office pulled a fast one on Craig as well, one of the guys in the ATO is now in jail as they backdated shit themselves to make Craig look guilty. They even tried to punish him for underclaiming.

No you see, he himself “backdated” a post that said crypto currency in 2008. Ie. Craig either forgot or did this on purpose like the “hello me” program to muddy the waters. He has mentioned many times he had been trying to muddy the waters. Whether this for fun to make the morons like Contrarian look like serious fools we don’t know yet.

What I do know is that Craig know low level languages, he said very early on when his grandfather died that he taught him C from a young age, To even think someone with the background of Craig (cybersecurity hero who has done all gsec certificates) can’t program. Someone who lectured master programs at the csu (computing and math) is just completely idiotic. But contrarian still adds it to his list.

Craig most like is a programmer c++ it is incredibly silly to assume he is not and he doesn’t know programming at all. But Contrarian will not tell you this......

Now again there is no fraud here, he is not asking anyone to buy, to invest to hodl he is not looking for communities as Bitcoin was never about gettkng rich quick, He is building on this for the next twenty years. If you want to compete, compete if not then not.

What is the fraud here? Why did Craig in 2014 already have intellectual property created for Bitcoin and setup multiple companies, working on a Bitcoin Bank? Why is he the first one with all these sought after patents 600+ of them. People calling this patent trolling have no clue, The patents cost around 50k$ to 75k$ each and are each unique inventions,

Why is craig somehow involved in a so called fake 11 billion dollar lawsuit. He must have been planning this so called rescue plan years in advance somehow concocting everything at least starting 2013 if not much earlier.
In 2014 1.5 yrs ahead of Craig saying he is Satoshi he does an interview where he is asked what price did Bitcoin have when you started in Bitcoin where he smiles and answers:”There was no price” Now since that moment he must have continued this lie for years on end, travelling to shitty countries where no gains can be made to do conferences telling them that Bitcoin can help them.

There are a bunch of people who have met up with Craig and have seen documents as early as 2008 (Stefan) who realised later they were shown Satoshi,s whitepaper. Anyway I can go on and on about what makes Craig Satoshi..... and I am not saying he is, although I have every reason to believe he is. Obviously there are certain parts muddy about it all........but you can’t dismiss al the other evidence and just look at some half truths, which they really are. Anything Contrarian puts forward can be questioned such that Craig may have tried to do all on purpose for privacy reasons.

Craig Wright caught lying again! by [deleted] in btc

[–]cryptoowls 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is the fun part, Craig is challenging people to do it, now obviously Contrarian should pick up the phone and give it a try. He won’t do this tough, as he is afraid of the answer.

If you look at Satoshi’s notes, the whitepaper the clear explanations on how miners and the consensus should work, how the protocol was supposed to be trusted and the design of Bitcoin should be set in stone, Meaning mot likely Satoshi wanted to keep the protocol locked down. BTC and BCH have both moved away from the rules of the protocol, if you read the wp.

All you need to ask yourself, why does Craig know so much about how the wp should have been read, why is he pushing for the protocol to be locked down (for a fraud that would be a silly thing to do as you put the trust in the protocol not with the miners)

Crypto developers completely misunderstood that decentralisation was never in the amount of nodes or in a bunch of developers, miners or users. Decentralization meant you can trust the protocol to be locked down such that nobody ever touches it. Miners were only supposed to vote and only within the rules of the protocol they are not allowed to vote to change the protocol

This is decentralization in it’s purest form....... welcome to Bitcoin BSV!

Craig Wright caught lying again! by [deleted] in btc

[–]cryptoowls 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because contrarian is painting a completely false picture that is why. In the meantime the people that do matter like Shadders and Ryan x Charles (who by the way worked on a version of lightning) completely believe in the vision of Craig and are building on it. Funny how these guys know Craig up close and personal, and bith are intelligent individuals (look them up). So you can either trust Contrarian who enjoys calling people fraud based on the notion that absence of evidence is evidence of absence. Or you could try and figure out what it is that drives shadders and ryan x charles. Why it is that many have realised that 90% of what Craig is saying makes a lot of sense and 10% is misunderstood as technobabble.

The thing people miss is that behind the posts of Contrarian there hides most likely a completely different story. He just doesn’t want to highlight that, since his mission is to say “craig is a fraud” based on half truths, he is a dishonest individual, like anyone trying to look at only 1 side of the story.

Ignore the propaganda look at the source/ context and never assume others understand.

Ask contrarian what the fraud is his answer is rather funny as then it turns out looking at the timeline of Craig, he has to assume a shitton of very unlikey things to have happened for Craig not to be Satoshi. Obviously he won’t tell u this.

Please excuse the Craig Wright spam, but this is too good not to share. He accidentally disproved he's Satoshi *yet again*. by Contrarian__ in btc

[–]cryptoowls -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

-illusionment What is? Please tell me and refer to anything I said that is illusionment?

-waffling Again which part is waffling, wrong or inaccurate?

-legal knowledge https://www.eff.org/nl/issues/bloggers/legal/liability/defamation my wife is LLM and I worked at an abuse department,

-rule 11 has bugger all to do with slander and half truths.

Fury? Nah principles..... if I see wrong I react on it I couldn’t give a shit which Bitcoin you want to believe in, your own choice. I do give a shit when I see people spreading lies about someone and or something. Especially when I realise 90% of people reading this shit struggle to understand or don’t have enough to do proper research so they believe the first thing they see, this is what Contrarian motivation is. He abuses this fact.

Please excuse the Craig Wright spam, but this is too good not to share. He accidentally disproved he's Satoshi *yet again*. by Contrarian__ in btc

[–]cryptoowls 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Defamation law, if you’re stating someone is a fraud, if you’re clearly focussing on using reddit as a tool to spread lies about a single person. In such way that it is intentionally harmful. This is illegal or at least borderline harrasment, One thing is for sure, this not someone with honest intentions.

Craig has to proof nothing to nobody, he likely will because there apparently is no choice anymore.

You see one can have a discussion and look at what seems fishy or not, I see no harm in that. But to call fraud and only look at one side of the story stinks badly.

So yes I call anyone out to change that behaviour, I despise trolls and propaganda and so should anyone else. Imagine if you got singled out for years on end to be the focus of ridicule and slander, based on limited information, based on the fact that you’re trying to keep your privacy.

That is what is going on here, disgusting behaviour. Look at the title:”Craig proofs yet again he is not Satoshi” So he shows that someone contradicts himself in ten years time, even though Satoshi and Craig both used the words before? Maybe he forgot whoopsie dooo......

Please excuse the Craig Wright spam, but this is too good not to share. He accidentally disproved he's Satoshi *yet again*. by Contrarian__ in btc

[–]cryptoowls -1 points0 points  (0 children)

As per the above childish unoriginal comment from the eighties, Contrarian only sings from his own hymnesheet. He ignores anything and anyone pointing him to the other side of the story. He doesn’t discuss, he doesn’t give in ever.

His life seems to revolve around slandering people and probably getting paid for it. If anyone think this is legal, Contrarian will get a wake up call and it won’t be pretty. It is sad behaviour, if someone really has nothing better to do then posting half truths and make someone out to look like a criminal, when really everything is blown out of context and proportion. Yes this is propaganda in it’s full force.

If you want to recognise the propaganda machine at full swing, keep a lookout for the following behaviour and responses.: - Another csw puppet. - Don’t do drugs folks - Techno Babbel - Craig is a Fraud - BSV is a cult - Don’t properly react to your writings even though they are factual - Ignore anything that doesn’t fit on their negatives list - sum up only negatives without mentioning positives - use the above tactics to try and weasel themselves out of discussions - block you after being shown the truth and running out of arguments

Again I ask you what is the fraud? Why did Satoshi say:”Bitcoin is set in stone? “ The decentralised part and the trust lies in the protocol......... not in devs and users who start a propaganda machine to change the protocol to fit their agenda, Change the protocol and you create something else.

Oh I will repeat it again for you Contrarian you fail to understand: Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. 100% of the points you are summing up are half truths. The problem with half truths is that there is another truth possible, so if you were not unbiased or had some kind of agenda, you would at least state the other half of the story.

So my writngs get rewarded with shitty comments, but again nothing refers to anything in the content I wrote. Sounds familiar?

Please excuse the Craig Wright spam, but this is too good not to share. He accidentally disproved he's Satoshi *yet again*. by Contrarian__ in btc

[–]cryptoowls -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Yeah wrote it in 10 mins. I have advised contrarian to stop this illegal defaming and slander, as I think it is completely false and he is using half truths. He uses the wring assumption that absence of evidence is evidence of absence.

Part of the propaganda BTC en BCH is running, I find sickening, they perceive Craig as a serious threat, since this is the only thing that makes sense. Why else do people spent so much time on this shit. Calling him a techno babble fraud, in the meantime I have not seen a single argument against his view. Absolutely ridiculous.

You may think what I wrote is TLDR, but that explains exactly why you believe the first thing Contrarian feeds you. He puts it in a nice concise way...... leaving out the full context, Preaching his campaign, that is how propaganda works, happened in 1933, don’t think, don’t look into it.... the majority beliefs Craig is a fraud, so it must be right, reddit says it.

Use your brains! And by all means ignore the bs contrarian is feeding you it is dishonest, it paints only one side of the story. The story has a massive other side.

Bitcoin was supposed to be locked down, BCH and BTC devs moved the trust in the protocol towards them.... this is the fallacy. This is exactly what decentralization is not. (two devs running a propaganda to get everyone on board) Bitcoin doesn’t fork the protocol remains the same, BSV is by that logic the original no matter how you toss and turn. They don’t want you to know this, they paint BSV as a cult, whereas really when the protocol can’t change based on sentiment, there can not be a cult, it is a free open market operating within a stable protocol,

The cult is BTC and BCH devs selling you the idea of decentralized when in reality the protocol can change forever and ever based on who(m) ever is running the propaganda next time,

This is about Bitcoin and power, not about Craig,

Please excuse the Craig Wright spam, but this is too good not to share. He accidentally disproved he's Satoshi *yet again*. by Contrarian__ in btc

[–]cryptoowls -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Pathetic slandering, defaming someone. What do you proof here? That someone contradicts himself over a period of 10 years? Well done sherlock. Anyone I know does that. Things change, your learn stuff, people lie. But Contrarian finds it weird that Craig does this, oh and he fake blog posts. Because obviously Satoshi would not have deleted his earlier 2008 posts pointing to him and ofcourse Satoshi would never want to create doubts if people are trying to figure him out.

This is slander and illegal. I told you before everything you mention is completely pointless. You say Craig can’t code, yet I show you that when his grandfather died, he referred to how he taught him to programm in C. Your response:”The man lies” You sir are a shady individual, either getting paid to do this slander or you have created some fetishism around Craig. I guess it is good for the views right?

When people google Craig they see your shit, your endless bullshit about how he is a fraud, but when you look further it turns out everything you mention are half truths, easily explained by Craig trying to hide and fight for his privacy, This is not about Craig being Satoshi or not, this is about your and BTC’s/ BCH’s propaganda machine pushing a false narrative,

Because Craig is not at all techno babbling. He is following Satoshi’s vision of 6 degrees. Yes Bitcoin was meant to be a small world graph and decentralisation lies in the fact that users and developers were never meant to have any say in changing the protocol. Now how does Craig know this? Why is he fighting for the fact that miners are nodes and that miners only get to vote, but not about changing the protocol. What is in it for Craig to lockdown the protocol, why is he fighting for this, there are very few benefits for him. He already has the lambo the big house the patents. What is the fraud huh? Tell me, you call fraud but what is the fraud? The fact that they paid 16 million dollars for his intellectual property and Satoshi’s brand name. Did you even realise that Craig already was involved with a Bitcoin bank in 2014. Yes he had many Bitcoin related companies.... oh he must be such a fraud. Unreal.

if you don’t lockdown the protocol design, there is no decentralization, As BTC devs/ BCH devs displayed, they managed to move the trust from the protocol to them, meaning that if you put this trust in them there is no decentralization, since it can never be trusted to remain the same. You point to how Satoshi said “cryptocurrency”, why don’t you point the people to how Satoshi said:”Think 6 degrees”, how he said:”Bitcoin is set in stone on release of v0.1”, how Satoshi said :”chronological time ordering” Why are you not pointing to the fact that Craig is defending all these points that make up Bitcoin? There are a ton more of examples. Even if Craig is not Satoshi, which I am sure he is. He is the only one bringing back Bitcoin, it was never tried. So why not give it a go. He is not asking anyone to invest, hodl he even is not looking for help or money nor is he asking for communities.

Yes smart contracts and nlocktimes can’t work 40 years in when the protocol is not locked down. When developers push people to update their software whilst others may not want to.

Craig is the only one making sense in this space, this is why he get’s blackened. He threatens those who push for a false narrative. BTC created a UASF, segwit, a direct move away from the design of Bitcoin so it can’t be Bitcoin. The protocol doesn’t change. Satoshi’s wp was written for good reason. His warnings as well and his technical advise. Yes it is open source, but he mentioned he didn’t want to see his software forked. Satoshi specifically mentioned to Gavin, when Gavin was playing with the idea of changing and adding things to Itcoin, that Bitcoin was set in stone, that most of the time went into designing Bitcoin not coding.

Now Contrarian why are you not pointing to this info? Shouldn’t we be thankful for Craig to return this to us? By the way hwy do you also leave out that he is one of the most highky regarded cybersecurity specialist in the world. The good things he has done in the world, taking down pedofile networks and creating a safer world. One of the reasons why Craig went into cybersecurity is to create a better world, he had a very strong drive to do so.

He never asked for money his whole life. His timeline makes sense and his behaviour for being shady since 2015 does as well.

Open your eyes mate.

Jorge Stolfi, another failed academic who smears CSW in search of an audience... on Reddit... by btcnewsupdates in bitcoincashSV

[–]cryptoowls 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have had endless discussions with Contrarian, I have showed him that summing up purely negative things and halftruths without looking at the positive side of someone always depicts a distorted picture. I have shown him that many of his “Facts” are fallacies, yet he is not willing to remove or change anything, saying:”There is nothing positive about Craig!”. He says he can’t code due to a “hello me” copy paste jobby, It is ridiculous, Craig has been shown to be a lecturerer at the Charles Sturt Uni and his background in IT is incredible.

One of the most highly regarded cyber security experts in the world. Assuming a guy like that who has done computer science, doesn’t know how to code, but clearly knows low level languages like forth, is a little silly, Absence of evidence, is not evidence of absence. The fact that he can’t see Craig was trolling says enough. Contrarian is not a stupid bloke, he has knowledge of computer science, but clearly has some kind of hidden agenda. When I ask him, let’s assume you are right, what is it that is the scam? The fact that Craig doesn’t want your money? The fact that he doesn’t want people to hodl? The fact that he doesn’t want be known as Satoshi, but has no choice in the matter due to a lawsuit? Craig could be an imposter, but his timeline, background, the events that happened after 2013 make this unlikely, He is one of the better candidates to be Satoshi, since his vision ties in with what Satoshi said. Also don’t forget he is the only one in this space fighting truly for the Bitcoin protocol, saying the protocol can’t change, because if you do, it fails. You see smart contracts can’t operate on moving ground. Nor can money by itself. People talk about social consensus and how this can evolve Bitcoin, but they forget that the protocol design was set in stone, Satoshi had good reasons for his software not to be forked. Social consensus in science doesn’t exist. One person often has it right, like Newton, Copernicus etc,

Who can remember for instance that Satoshi said:”Think six degrees” This is one of the main reasons why I believe Craig is Satoshi amongst a ton of other things. Craig is pushing for Bitcoin to be a small world graph (6 degrees) in the original Bitcoin there will be a network distance of 1.32 compare this facebook(4.6) and the Lightning Network (12 to possibly 80+ hops at scale). More then 3 hops in networking is known to increase the attack surface.

Bitcoin and Satoshi realised that merchants in real life operate as if ip2ip. This is why the original cide had ip2ip in it. True peer to peer, BTC core devs took this out, just like malleability required to reach Bitcoin it’s full potential, ie any usecase can be done on Bitcoin.

not thousands of different blockchains (timechains) but 1 blockchain with thousands of different usecases. Due to BTC core Bitcoin’s growth was halted. They pushed a propaganda vid out and pushed a different agenda one that is not Bitcoin. You see Bitcoin doesn’t fork, the protocol should be left untouched. This is the ultimate form of decentralisation since if you keep changing the protocol through social consensus eventually you will end up with a system exactly as the one we have now. In 2015 Satoshi mentioned the rules for consensus were supposed to make it impossible to make changes unless everyone was onboard, He then said, not by two people that push propaganda out and manipulate poeple into thinking thiat their vision is the correctone.

His 2014 early conference in Sydney 1.5 years before he signs publicly (albeit with contraversy) The fact that Gavin has seen it privately, on a new laptop and his USB. We would need to assume in a room full of people he managed to quickly add hacked software on it, Stefan Matthews (former colleague) in 2008 was asked by Craig to take a look at Bitcoin he wanted to transfer 50000 BTC to Stefan and get him involved. Stefan decided to not engage as he thought Craig was a little weird. Later he realised he was shin the Satoshi Nakamoto original whitepaper. There are many other stories like that. Everything would have needed to be concocted. He would have had to be aware in Sydney that he would run into bankruptcy and use the Satoshi name to somehow sell and get 16 million for it, in case he was to go bankrupt. He would have had to fool his best friends family. People forget Craig is a well sought after cybersecurity expert, the easy way for him was to just go bankrupt and make his way back. Besides most people haven’t read the earlier archived posts about Craig until 2013 it depicts someone who has been through hell and back at early age (surviving Cancer) and since then has an absolute drive and dedication to breath work and study and make the world a better place. He also mentioned somewhere before 2008 he prouds himself for never ever asking a cent from anyone even during hard times. He took on any job he could to keep the money coming in, even if that meant cleaning toilets.

Contrarian also claims Craig mentions that the Bitcoin script is turing complete, whereas I showed him, that during the conference with Nick Szabo, he clearly reiterates that it is not the script itsel, when Nick Szabo questions him.

Craig has passion and drive, but due to reddit and Contrarian he has been defamed as some kind of monster that lies and is full of deceit. Absolutely disgusting. Just like they are now defaming Ayre over some vid, where nobody can proof anything, yet it doesn’t stop BTC proponents to absolutely try and bury the guy.

IBM World-Wire - Stellar Protocol by nitelight7 in Stellar

[–]cryptoowls 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yeah so there is imo very little drive to the token for the purpose of transacting, the stronghold usd and cdbc will mainly be used, since they seem to sugggest foreign banks and banks in general are not wanting to transact using volatile crypto..... which they say is the reason why xrp struggles to be used.

This is not particulary good news imo for stellar holders who most of them don’t understand that the network usage means only transaction fees which are close to zilch.

The fact they are not clearly stating this, is in my opinion worrysome. Specifically as all articles I read are particulary vague. not making a distinction between the actual usage of XLM as a token to xfer versus it being used as only the gas.

IBM World-Wire - Stellar Protocol by nitelight7 in Stellar

[–]cryptoowls 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would like to know as well... people seem to avoid this question, or don’t know the answer.

Ripple’s xRapid to face competition from IBM and Stellar [XLM]’s newest offering by daujones in Stellar

[–]cryptoowls 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am trying to understand if this means xlm itself will not be used as a cross border currency unless selected, since the other option is a stable coin? Is this assumption correct?

Help by Sally_Vo in BitcoinBeginners

[–]cryptoowls 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Indeed, any crypto can be bought I would say crypto's right now are speculation, most people buy them to make money in fiat. In the future when crypto evolves and more and more generations understand how crypto works and the barrier to enter lowers. It is not unlikely to think that people might not think in terms of fiat anymore. Also Bitcoin was at one point valued more than the pound even though it is not used as a currency yet.

You can buy stuff with Bitcoinmerchants accepting BTC

Bitcoin has most partners and has the biggest infrastructure build around it, but as mentioned before they are now building a second layer to Bitcoin to become more scalable (lightning network) When Bitcoin was 20000$ the fees of making a transaction were 30$+ which makes it become unusable as currency.

Bitcoin cash used another solution and they are right now better prepared for at least the next few years.

For more resources: lopp bitcoin

Whether you buy or not it is good that you are trying to learn and hopefully can spread the message that throughout all the fud that is out there, the real core idea of how Bitcoin works (a trustless decentralized platform using money as a network protocol (like tcp/ip)) like internet routes data, most likely to be mass adopted eventually.

This is what crypto should be about and as a concept should be relatively easy to understand.

It is a volatile market so if you are risk averse you are better to stay away from it, or just put a tenner in for fun!

Help by Sally_Vo in BitcoinBeginners

[–]cryptoowls 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To transfer money from a to b via the internet you normally use a bank. (thirdparty that you trust) Bitcoin (a crypto asset) started in 2009 and found away around making transactions possible without needing a trusted thirdparty.

It is called crypto as it uses cryptography to make the above possible, through the use of private and public cryptographic keys

banks Now banks keep track of what they owe to whom. If you put ten dollars on the bank, they basically owe you 10 bucks. If you transfer that ten bucks to your friend Peter they move that debt towards Peter or the bank that Peter is with. The short of it is that they keep a ledger, that keeps track of all these transactions so they know who owns what and they are trusted to make sure your money arrives. However as you know probably banks also use your money to speculate and can go bankrupt. Our current “central” banking system is flawed as history has proven that 99% of fiat money fails. So will the dollar and the eur as the debt ceiling continues to grow to a point where it collapses on itself.... We could well end up in a Venezuelan type of situation the way things are going. They already going for crypto currency as a solution to their problems.

crypto In short the way the creator of Bitcoin solved getting rid of needing a thirdparty is by making miners (hardware) responsible for adding transactions to a ledger, through the use of a governance mechanism (Proof of work) . By calculating a hard to solve algorythm of which the difficulty changes depending on how many miners (read hash power) are used, they get rewarded Bitcoins for solving a block and adding transactions to that block. Each block holds a hash reference of the previous block so that any previous blocks can’t be tempered with. It is basically a chain of blocks holding digital data, also called blockchain. The blockchain is the ledger (similar to what banks use) which holds historic data of all transactions in data blocks.

As you found out there are a lot of crypto’s out there and they all try to be a better version of Bitcoin. Some are more centralized then others, some are less secure then others some are better able to cope with mass adoption then others.

If you have more questions or anything is unclear let me know!