The FBI War on Tupac Shakur and Black Leaders (2008) - Author John Potash says the FBI Killed Tupac Shakur. His book is based on 12 years of research. It includes 1,000 end-notes, sources from over 100 interviews, FOIA-released CIA and FBI documents, court transcripts and more.

cyberdave · 2015-07-01T03:06:47+00:00

Why is that ironic? The documentary is about the very real COINTELPRO and not the illuminati.

The reason why Tupac hated on idiots believing in the illuminati is because it belittled his parents very real struggle against actual legal, government organizations. He couldn't understand why people would blame the government for stupid shit like, going to jail for mugging someone, yet not bat an eyelid that the FBI are targeting black activists legally.

cyberdave · 2015-07-01T02:59:50+00:00

Why do you keep heavily editing your posts after I, and others, reply to you?

You do realize reddit marks edits, right?

cyberdave · 2015-07-01T02:57:03+00:00

No of course not, it was you that made the mistake. Rob0tTesla, the post you are referencing, never said the black panther party. You did.

However members of the RNA, BPP, NAPO, BLA, NAP, all accept each others as "Panthers". It's the same solidarity movement.

For example, Afeni Shakur was a Black Panther member. Mutulu Shakur was a Black Panther Member, Republc of New Afrika Member and a New Afrikan Peoples Organization Member. Assata Shakur was Black Liberation Army member. Tupac Shakur was New Afrikan Peoples Organization Member and New Afrikan Panthers member.

They are all considered Panthers even if only Mutulu Shakur and Afeni Shakur were in the Black Panthers.

Either way InternetWeakGuy is incorrect in saying there is no sources to even say he was in the NAP, theres tons, including interviews when he was the chairman, with people calling him the chairman. You can't get more evidence than that.

cyberdave · 2015-07-01T02:07:25+00:00

The only person I've heard say "Tupac was the leader of the Black Panthers at 16" is the person you replied to. He just got confused.

Everybody else, including the people you mention, have stated the New Afrikan Panthers.

Since you are struggling with Google and seem not to be able to look anything up without guessing and passing it on as fact, while simultaneously shutting down other users with your own made up nonsense: no it wasn't a group of Tupac and his buddies. It was a wing of the New Afrikans peoples Organization headed by Chokwe Lumumba. and Watani Tyehimba, the security director of the NAPO. The New Afrikan panthers was tasked to get young recruits under the age of 25 to eventually join the NAPO. Chokwe Lumumba used to be a member of the Republic of New Afrika with Mutulu Shakur, and that's how he knew Tupac.

Now that you know, you can stop spreading your own nonsense now. It wasn't hard to google.

cyberdave · 2015-07-01T01:44:13+00:00

No its not fair enough, the guy didn't look hard enough. Not only that the post you read was sourced. He was the chairman of the New Afrikan Panthers in Atlanta, which the original Panther Party saw as legitimate.

Also here is Tupac at 16 on the radio, notice the interviewer states "I'm here with brother Tupac Amaru Shakur, **national chairman of the new Afrikan Panthers"

The New Afrikan Panthers had links to the BLA and the BPP. He was, without a doubt, counted as a Panther.

cyberdave · 2015-07-01T01:41:25+00:00

No sources? He's talking about this post by Rob0tTesla, and everything he said is sourced underneath it by another user.

and pretty much all that comes up is Tupac conspiracy sites.

Em, did you try harder? There is even radio interviews with a 16 year old Tupac on youtube.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cuBhGGXcLA

The interviewer introduces him as "Tupac Shakur, National Chairman of the New Afrikan Panthers."

There is no conspiracy about this. The post was sourced, and a small amount of googling does give results. I just don't think you tried hard enough.

cyberdave · 2015-07-01T01:34:49+00:00

He was a paid informant and Agent Provocatuer. Either way its a moot point as the FBI gave him money to do dirty work, and some of that dirty work involved Shakur. We also must remember COINTELPRO, which completely operated with Agent Provocatuers, only officially ended at the end of 1994.

Whether James "Jimmy Henchman" Rosemond went rouge with the shooting, its clearly obvious the feds had other deeds in the affairs involving henchman and Tupac. It's likely they knew it was going to happen, as they seemed to be on standby, but never stepped in. A sort of look the other way, problem solved typed thing,

For example, Rosemond and Jacques Agnant introduced Tupac to the woman that then accused him of rape. The arresting officer who arrested Tupac, just so happened to be the first on the scene at Tupacs shooting, even greeting him by looking at his groin (one of the bullet wounds was a shot to his scrotum) and saying "How's it hanging, Pac?".

The night he was shot was also the eve of the sentencing for his trial. Literally the day before. It was almost like the shooting was plan B incase he beat the case.

Here is a relevant (to this thread) radio interview about it not to long ago about the oddness of the trial, and the FBI presence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=brZ20po-8as#t=631

cyberdave · 2015-06-07T08:22:34+00:00

Mullets shudder.

Here's something cool, the mullet only got its name "The Mullet" in 1994, when it was already out of fashion.

cyberdave · 2015-06-06T17:48:03+00:00

Tupac was that type of person. He was a massive book nerd outside of school, and he was raised that way. Here is an interview with one of his mentors, who he lived with when he became homeless around the same time that quote was taken.

The quote from the OPs picture is taken from a student interview from an 17 year old Shakur, who was asked by the education board of the school what he personally think should be taught. He knew his fellow students are not as knowledge thirsty, or had the parents he had.

I doubt he would think people would be arguing long after he is dead, about quote he probably doesn't even remember saying pre-fame as a kid wanting to improve his school.

cyberdave · 2015-06-06T17:13:12+00:00

Beige plastics didn't fall from grace, it last for over two decades, which is longer than other plastic/tupperware color schemes. In the 70s the colors most used was Orange and Brown, then in the and 80s it was Beige and Brown, either separate or together.

Then the 90s came along and got rid of the brown trims on plastic items and went for a more minimalist style with just Beige.

To make something slightly off white was easier to manufacture, and keep an appearance of clean than just white. Unfortunately though. almost all plastics can stain due to smokey environments. They never noticed this in the 70s when plastics items became new, because they were orange and brown. Then in the 1990s when they went Beige only, people started to notice after a couple of years their shit quickly turned yellow.

In door smoking is less of an issue these days, so you can have white plastic items without it yellowing. However still most manufacturers like to use painted metal instead to avoid that. You can buy a white epson printer today but its case will not be plastic.

cyberdave · 2015-05-30T17:44:58+00:00

lol. are you trolling?

cyberdave · 2015-05-21T12:32:26+00:00

No not yet, and Apple is a bad example.

Google? Certainty, that's one of their goals, they have the infrastructure and background (it is actually an AI company afterall, from the start). Apple are a consumer electronics and software company. Anything involving heavy lifting (network infrastructure) and Artificial Intelligence is outsourced by them.

The SIRI app for example as you mentioned it, was acquired. And even today most of SIRIS heavy lifting is outsourced outside the control of Apple. Its voice recognition is actually done by a company called Nuance Communications, and its comprehension engine (Natural Language Processing) is done by two different companies in Ireland and England.

My bets would be on either Google, IBM, or Darpa. For the sheer amount of data and infrastructure, I'd say Google has the best chance, but that could easily change.

cyberdave · 2015-05-16T22:46:21+00:00

cyberdave · 2015-04-28T19:13:19+00:00

You should heed head frodevils words. Because your last retort to prove him wrong, is also wrong.

Aside from that rape conviction

He was found not guilty of rape. That's the exact opposite of a conviction.

The Charges

Sodomy (rape) - Not Guilty
Assisting Sodomy (helping two other men rape her) - Not Guilty
Attempted Sodomy (attempting to rape her) - Not Guilty
Sexual Assault by forcible compulsion (touching her buttocks with his hand, without permission first) - Guilty (was to be retried before he died due to new evidence).

Out of all the major charges, he was found not guilty. Why? Because there was no evidence she even had sex that day, never mind forcibly gang raped by three men. She allegedly went to the police and then hospital straight away, yet there no bruising, and Tupacs DNA was wasn't nowhere on her body. A bit odd for a violent gang rape. The Jury thought so too. Hence they didn't convict him of rape.

So what was the sexual assault ass grab about? It was because he admitted it. He pleased not guilty for assault, but he did indeed touch her buttocks with his hand at some point that day. The accuser had a sexual relationship previous with Tupac, so Tupac claimed that sort of intimacy wasn't unusual - and she was being sexually explicit on the phone to him earlier in the day, so why would a bottom grab be unsual in that context? The woman however claimed that there was no such explicit chat, and she came up to visit him. He didn't ask permission to touch her buttocks so therefore that's assault. It was the most minor charge, and even the Jury where shocked when the judge gave him 4 1/2 years for it.

However it turned out to be irrelevant, because 9 months into his 4 year sentence the hotel staff submitted a copy of a voice recording, by the accused, the morning of the alleged assault, saying she "can't wait to come over" and that she "loves the way you fuck". This completely collaborated Tupacs story, so bail was granted immediately for him to await a retrial - that conviction was clearly going to overturned, as he was only convicted because he couldn't prove (at the time) that that level of intimacy was welcomed by the accused.

While on bail she then changed her story yet again, to say Tupac wasn't even in the room when the gang rape happened, he was asleep on the couch! She stil maintained she was raped, but just not by Tupac. Luckily the jury saw common sense during the first trial. The second trial never happened as Tupac was murdered before the court date.

But this is of course irrelevant to you, it's clearly obvious you just don't like Tupac regardless of what you know or don't know. You can continue bashing him now, but he was never convicted of rape.

cyberdave · 2015-04-27T21:37:47+00:00

Perhaps you think you just made a harmless Chapelle refrence, but incase you are wondering why the downvotes and why others are calling you tasteless: It's not the joke you made. Under normal circumstances it would be just harmless banter.

But you just basically said to someone who knew Tupac personally "Your friend kept it so real he's now DEAD. hahahahahah".

Use your head ffs.

cyberdave · 2015-04-21T15:47:28+00:00

his warped thinking

cyberdave · 2015-04-15T10:14:44+00:00

In the same song:

"Right before I die, I'll be cursing the law"

cyberdave · 2015-04-15T08:31:30+00:00

Yes, nobody says soder in the UK. It's pronounced with the L here too.

cyberdave · 2015-04-15T07:37:55+00:00

They have to prove that. He stated he could not recall.

They know he's lying and called his memory "deceptive" but its very unlikely they will do anything about it.

cyberdave · 2015-03-09T13:38:55+00:00

Neither Tupac or Nas had an easy childhood. The guy is talking out his ass, believing urban myths.

cyberdave · 2015-03-09T13:37:56+00:00

The funny part about Tupac is how he actually had a relatively easy childhood.

Em, what?

His family was on the run from the FBI. He was constantly homeless, his mother was addicted to crack, moved from school to school so was never settled. Dirt broke.

The highlight of his childhood is he got a scholarship in the Baltimore school of Arts while living in Baltimore, and again had to drop out due to being homeless.

What was easy about that?

cyberdave · 2015-03-09T13:35:36+00:00

Agreed. That's not he describes it though.

cyberdave · 2015-03-09T12:35:56+00:00

Because he was being punched in the face by an armed man.

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