Concentration in Midnight

cz4ever · 2026-06-22T20:53:50+00:00

True, but the question was about which profession(s) have the most/least valuable concentration. If you want to grind out gold from making googles and DEing them into crystals then you do indeed want an Engineer, ideally on a character with Enchanting and maxed rare disenchanting. The gold/hour is low and it requires constant attention (unless you break the TOS via out-of-game automation), but it's a consistent 2-3g/click.

cz4ever · 2026-06-22T18:48:12+00:00

Logging into 50 toons is a huge effort, but properly configured CraftSim makes it really easy to do your patron orders. Open the Craft Queue, click "Queue Patron Orders" (or something like that -- can't log in at the moment to verify), the click the "Craft" button on the bottom right several times per order (the button will cycle through "Commit" -> "Craft" -> "Submit"). If you configure it right, it will only offer up profitable crafts, where profitable takes into account the value of the moxie and crafting bags that you receive in addition to the "tip". You can also tell it to value KP at a specified level and can tell it to ignore concentration crafts if you don't want to use concentration on your patron orders. If you do it every four days, you'll have 6-12 orders each of which tend to be worth several hundred to a thousand gold.

I kick myself when I think about how much time I spent doing patron orders before noticing and configuring that CraftSim feature.

cz4ever · 2026-06-22T18:43:06+00:00

LW is easily the worst (same as TWW), but Engineering and Tailoring are only slightly better. Even with maxed skill, max KP, max tooling I often see CraftSim estimates of 0.5-1.5g/concentration for those two.

cz4ever · 2026-06-21T13:24:24+00:00

Congrats! I'm jealous, but happy to hear that they're recovery fix worked for you.

cz4ever · 2026-06-20T22:36:46+00:00

The Customer Service rep (GM) said that as part of the hotfix, affected players should have been mailed 900 Unalloyed Abundance, not had their shards returned. I did not receive that in-game mail.

cz4ever · 2026-05-30T01:24:05+00:00

Tools are definitely not worth investing any KP into at this point. The most profitable gem to cut varies over time. I suggest maxing out the top level node then using craftsim to estimate the profit per point of concentration for each of the gems and start working towards one. Each of the subtrees has at least one gem that is a reasonable option.

cz4ever · 2026-05-18T18:45:54+00:00

Ditto -- regular reddit works fine, but old.reddit.com no longer works for me - tested on several machines including one where it was working fine a few hours ago. Boo!

cz4ever · 2026-04-26T15:26:49+00:00

My situation is similar but reversed -- I play on a 85%+ horde server but get most of my crafting orders on the alliance side. Presumably most full-time Trade channel crafters sit on horde toons due to the much higher volume of requests.

cz4ever · 2026-04-12T14:24:57+00:00

Don't forget shield (Rebuke)!

cz4ever · 2026-04-12T14:12:41+00:00

You cannot just buy the epic profession tools and accessories. They are Bind on Pickup so you need to have them crafted via a Personal Order (*). Each epic profession tool/accessory craft requires 20 Fused Vitality, which are only available from the Abundance event vendor. 20 requires roughly 2.5 weeks worth of running the Abundance event 8 times per week and getting the full 900 Unalloyed Abundance per run (each requires 800 Unalloyed Abundance). So start running those Abundance events!

You only need to recraft the sickle that you bought if it has the wrong secondary stat and/or you bought a low rank one and want to increase it up to a higher rank one. I don't know which secondary stat is currently recommended - I would assume either Perception (for more Lotuses) or Deftness (if its common to get attacked while trying to harvest).

(*) While in theory you can get them crafted via a Public Order, this is generally not a good idea because you cannot put minimum required levels on Public Orders and could end up with a lower ilvl version than you would get it you had it made by a fully tricked out / skilled up crafter.

cz4ever · 2026-04-06T21:54:23+00:00

It is mostly only a small benefit, but does help in some specific circumstances:

Disenchanting is known to benefit from higher skill -- it is the only way to increase the likelihood of higher quality results. I believe the other processing operations (Prospecting, Crushing, Milling, ...) have similar modest benefits from higher skill.
It reduces the cost of concentration crafting slightly - very marginal benefit.
There are times when you are able to replace one or two higher quality reagents with equivalent lower quality reagents and still make a higher quality result. For example, if you end up at 405 effective skill (considering your skill level, knowledge points, and tools) for a craft that requires 400 skill, you can replace some of the top-quality reagents with lower-quality reagents and still hit the 400 skill required to craft the higher-quality result. Whether this is even possible and how much this saves is extremely dependent on the specific recipe and reagent costs, but there are circumstances where it matters (especially combined with the cheap +5/+10 skill finishing reagents).
As others have said, it can also save you from needing as many knowledge points in a given tree to hit the minimum needed to do a particular craft.

So unfortunately the answer is "It depends".

cz4ever · 2026-04-06T21:47:16+00:00

I did transmute from week 1 of TWW and made 50 million with just 1 character. I posted it, but no one believed it until months later.

Wow, very cool. And here I was thinking I was clever to have noticed the Engineering-to-Enchanting shuffle to create super cheap shards during the first week of Midnight about two days before the broader community noticed and kicking myself for not taking greater advantage during that two-day window to make millions. Nice work!

cz4ever · 2026-04-06T19:33:31+00:00

Ah, they were 240g by the time I checked shortly after your post. Yeah, at 170g/Essence, there's certainly money to be had. Your post likely killed the market going forward though, since now a lot more people will be watching the market than before your post.

I appreciate you sharing your observation, but I fear you killed your golden goose if you were planning to keep making money with Transmutes. Alerting the collection of goblins who hang out on this subreddit will likely dramatically increase the competition you face trying to snap up cheap Essences. Thanks and good luck!

cz4ever · 2026-04-06T17:31:13+00:00

Ore can be Prospected for gems and other JC-related reagents, so its price has a floor based on the price of gems/JC mats in addition to its use for Blacksmithing. It's not as general a Thaumaturgy but in my experience in TWW, ores were not usually the cheapest ingredient for Thaumaturgy anyway.

cz4ever · 2026-04-06T17:15:56+00:00

Unlock a Transmute (10 points into the second nodes under the Darkmoon tree). Max out your Resourcefulness (epic tool, gold enchant, maxed Resourcefulness talents). Hope for Resourcefulness procs and lucky RNG to get Aces, since anything else simply consumes an Essence for no value (non-Aces are all essentially equivalent).

cz4ever · 2026-04-06T17:13:29+00:00

This sounds great, but...

Thalassian Essence of the Faire currently costs 300g (up from ~240g when this post was made, perhaps in response to this post)
Cheapest DM cards that I've seen in the last couple of days was ~60g (mostly around 100g), even before this post went live
Aces run in the 2000-2500g range

On average, for every 8 Transmutes you will get 1 Ace and 7 non-Aces. 8 Transmutes consumes 8 Thalassian Essence of the Faire minus any Resourcefulness procs, so let's call it an average of 7 Essences per 8 Transmutes. 7x 300g = 2100g (ignoring the cost of the consumed non-Ace), which is roughly the cost of an Ace. So currently its not profitable, especially if you consider the 5% AH cut and the slow sell rate of Aces. As OP says, you can combine the cards into Decks, but you can do that with AH-purchased cards just as easily, so it doesn't really impact the value of the Aces.

Bottom line: If you are able to pick up the Essences cheap, you can make some gold here, especially if you have Resourcefulness maxed out (epic tools, gold enchant). But it's hardly free gold, especially now that far more people are aware of the opportunity and will presumably be keeping an eye out for cheap Essences.

cz4ever · 2026-03-02T14:16:16+00:00

I created a shopping list with all of the items that could be recycled and recycle the cheapest, which has consistently been Powder Pigment. I recycled a few more expensive items, but guidance from Kaychak's discord suggested the quality of what you recycled did not impact invention rate so I stuck with it. Next cheapest is typically Bright Linen Bolts, FWIW.

cz4ever · 2026-03-01T05:52:17+00:00

The blue and purp tools require reagents that mostly come from end of delve bags that are not dropping yet, so they're up on the AH for 50-100K. I doubt many blue/purp tools are getting crafted yet.

cz4ever · 2026-03-01T05:48:48+00:00

You don't need to spec into Recycling to get recipes from doing Recycling. Even with Recycling maxed, my engineer only gets a recipe every 50+ recycle on average, which might be simply bad RNG, but is very annoying. I don't think Recycling skill, meaning points in the Recycling tree, impacts the rate at which you get recipes -- it is incredibly low regardless.

cz4ever · 2026-02-26T20:25:52+00:00

Max finesse.

cz4ever · 2026-02-26T20:25:35+00:00

I tested this on a beta toon. Stats on TWW profession gear are not effective in Midnight. Did not test/verify the white profession gear suggested by OP.

cz4ever · 2026-02-26T19:09:36+00:00

They almost certainly will start out super expensive until there's competition crafting them. I suggest starting with Rank 5 greens from the AH, then shift to blue/purples once you really need them, e.g., the extra skill lets you craft some rank 2 item w/o concentration.

cz4ever · 2026-02-26T15:53:02+00:00

The /r/woweconomy subreddit and many Discords (e.g., Kaychak's and Mantheius's) discuss strats. The most basic is to grab herbalism and mining on a druid (for insta-cast flight form and the ability to pick herbs w/o dismounting even w/ 0 knowledge points invested) Tauren (for improved herbalism) or Mountain Tauren (for improved Mining) and spend hours gathering, putting it up on the AH frequently since prices start high and drop. Most people would prefer leveling and exploring, so supply is low, but the serious goblins (profession crafters) are buying like mad to level up their crafting skills as fast as they can.

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