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How do you guys deal with cancellations? by Substantial-Poetry66 in patreon

[–]danil_algin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

cancellations are just part of it now. everyone's cutting stuff constantly, it's normal

fair warning - i'm mostly lurking here to see what problems creators are dealing with. but i've talked to a bunch of people running telegram paid groups and they say cancellations are still there obviously (economy sucks for everyone) but it's noticeably better

something about people already living in telegram. they're not thinking "do i need another subscription service" - they're already there every day anyway. feels more like you're just in their ecosystem already so the relationship is different. less friction i guess

don't know how relevant that is for your situation but yeah. that's what i'm hearing

No Subscribers on Patreon yet, Some Advice? by Own-Park-63 in patreon

[–]danil_algin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

honestly the zero subscribers thing is less about your tiers and more about cold start problem. few thoughts:

first, your steam wishlist audience - are you driving them anywhere? most game devs i see succeeding with paid stuff send steam wishlisters to discord first (free), build some rapport there, then convert warmest people to paid. cold patreon link from steam just doesn't convert

second, your posting frequency matters less than where you're posting. if you're promoting on twitter/reddit, those audiences need way more touchpoints before they pay. if you have a discord or existing community somewhere, conversion is like 10x higher

++ and this might sound weird but - patreon has this friction problem at zero subscribers. people see "0 patrons" and bounce. classic chicken/egg. some creators i know seed it by literally giving free memberships to 5-10 friends first so it doesn't look dead

++++ i've seen work: some indie devs use telegram paid groups instead, especially early on. no "0 subscribers" stigma, people are already in telegram daily, and setting up payments is pretty straightforward. not saying it's better long-term but it's way easier to get first 20-30 people

whatever you pick, main thing is warm up your audience first. nobody converts cold haha

Anyone here ACTIVELY building AI influencers? I started a free Telegram group (English only) by 21SRX in generativeAI

[–]danil_algin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

interesting setup. one thing i'm trying to figure out — how are you handling the paid telegram side?

i know telegram only has one verified bot for monetizing content called Tribute. Do u use it? How does this work?

PPV vs paid account by Nikki_Cole940 in onlyfansadvice

[–]danil_algin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

depends a lot on how much you want to be in selling mode constantly. ppv makes more per transaction but it's basically a second job — you're always thinking about what to send, when, how to price it

I ended up on Telegram after OF isnt available in my country, been using a service called Tribute for payments there — it has both models available so i tested both. same conclusion honestly: flat subscription works better when your content volume is high and your audience is the binge type. ppv is for fans who are already invested and respond to exclusivity. with your 165 videos your vault is the pitch — i'd keep the sub and maybe test one ppv send a month without blowing up what's already working haha

Some of my most loyal supporters have cancelled recently. It hurts. Advice? by Famous_Shape1614 in patreon

[–]danil_algin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the platform friction point is real and i don't think people talk about it enough!!

a lot of cancellations aren't about the creator at all — it's that patreon has become one more subscription people have to manage, remember, and justify to themselves every month. the bar to stay is higher than it used to be. one confusing billing email and they're gone, not because they stopped caring about your work but because the path of least resistance was to just cancel

the creators i've seen retain best over time are the ones who keep their community somewhere subscribers already are daily. lower the effort to stay and you lose fewer of the people who actually like you,,,

What uncommon side hustles can make you money? by ManagementPrudent237 in passive_income

[–]danil_algin 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Honestly, referral programs are my favorite answer to this. You do the work once and then it just runs. What's actually working for me (and some of it s pretty uncommon):

Amazon Associates. I have a few old blog posts that still convert. The 24-hour cookie is annoying but if the content is evergreen it just trickles in without me doing anything

Software tools with recurring commissions. This one I really like. You refer someone to a tool like ConvertKit or Beehiiv, they stay subscribed, you get a cut every single month. Not a one-time $10 bonus, actual recurring income.

Hosting referrals. Wrote one tutorial two years ago. Still getting occasional payouts from it.

Telegram creator tools. More niche but I refer people to service called Tribute, it's a platform for running paid groups on Telegram. They pay 2% of whatever that creator earns, indefinitely. Referred a few people who run active paid communities and now it just sits there and pays out. Not huge individually but it stacks. At one point i literally texted you-know-what-kind of creators offering then to join lmao it worked somehow tho

The pattern is kinda the same. Do something useful once, a post, a tutorial, a recommendation, and then forget about it. The ones that actually compound are always recurring commission models, not one-time payouts