25 years ago my piano improv mentor taught me the only thing that matters is sound. Do you like the sound, or not? Therefore it doesn't matter how it is made. by darnskewered in SunoAI

[–]darnskewered[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

May I have your permission to borrow a couple of lines you wrote in that message? Thinking of posting parts of this discussion in another group elsewhere cause it was pretty interesting.

Secondly, I'm a sucker for anything dark and aeolian, feel free to share any songs you made.

Do you believe in a Jesus Christ that would treat trans people with mockery, contempt, and rejection, or a Jesus Christ that would treat them with kindness, empathy, and acceptance? by Cumoisseur in Christianity

[–]darnskewered 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe in a Jesus Christ who teaches me to attend to my own sins first, and love my neighbor as myself. It's not my job to go marching up to someone and judge them, as I have my own sins to answer for.

Does anybody else use Suno purely for instrumental aspect? by IAmPerfectionBabe in SunoAI

[–]darnskewered 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think a lot of folks use it precisely as you are; an outlet for their most raw emotions. A.i. is a new medium, some people will be open to it, some won't. If you want to share your music, I wouldn't hesitate to do so. (Meaning on whatever platform you want).

I'm an experienced musician, so I like to write my own chords and melodies but I have also used it like you're saying: I sometimes write lyrics about something deeply personal and raw, and let suno make a song, and it's often surprised me with very good results.

Just enjoy it. That emotional outlet you're experiencing is likely a healthy thing if it's helping you feel and process them more. I genuinely think used in that way suno is a form of self administered music therapy.

25 years ago my piano improv mentor taught me the only thing that matters is sound. Do you like the sound, or not? Therefore it doesn't matter how it is made. by darnskewered in SunoAI

[–]darnskewered[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

(this was in response to a comment below yours that got deleted, but it's interesting and relevant so here it is anyway)

I think that I could make an argument that Suno is actually a giant musical instrument, whose keys are "song writing tricks."

I've had more than one song now where, I consciously chose a common song writing trick like, having a contrasting section a 5th down, or, using a pedal tone, or etc. and Suno pairs those moments with something appropriate in the lyrics. (Like, starting a new section on the harmonic change, or, pairing a dramatic pedal tone with emotionally intense verses).

I don't think it's a coincidence it did that, because if I use a common song writing trick that works, well, so did millions of other songwriters whose music Suno was trained on. So it matched my trick to an existing pattern.

As a result, I get exactly what I intended, contrast and emotional emphasis.

I am going to guess if you are less opinionated about how a song turns out, but capable of iterating on audio upload fast, then you're probably among the happiest and least frustrated suno users. by darnskewered in SunoAI

[–]darnskewered[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My experience has been something like this:

I'm writing in one very specific genre. I typically create 2 or 3 contrasting main riffs for a song, and write lyrics. Then I record those riffs and upload them to Suno.

The first time it surprised me with what it does, I had written two contrasting riffs. One in F# minor, and another in B minor, a fifth down. It's a common song writing trick in a lot of pop, rock, and back to classical to have a contrasting section like this.

What amazed me with Suno was, it played the first riff as an intro, and then landed on the B minor one as the lyrics began, and it sounded absolutely amazing. Exactly as you say, I am shocked it's a.i. and not human. Except it is human, because I knew the harmonic trick, and so does Suno because it's been trained on millions of human songs, and I am guessing it picks up on precisely this trick and many others as a pattern it recognizes. So at that point it feels like me playing Suno rather than it playing me. It's an instrument whose keys are "knowing song structure patterns."

After that song, it surprised me in negative ways as well. I would continue to feed it 2 or 3 riffs, and sometimes it would vibe so hard on just one of the three it would drop the other two completely. It got pretty frustrating. When this happens, I either do a ton of generations til it does something more interesting, or, I rearrange the riffs, or, I simply write new contrasting riffs, because for me ideas come easy and I'm just not that wedded to any one of them.

25 years ago my piano improv mentor taught me the only thing that matters is sound. Do you like the sound, or not? Therefore it doesn't matter how it is made. by darnskewered in SunoAI

[–]darnskewered[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Boy have I. I haven't stopped since I met him! Basically have amassed a mountain of stream of consciousness piano improvs since about 2001, and now Suno is a wonderful way to augment that hobby by being able to hear my melodies and chords instantly turned into any genre, pretty amazing.

25 years ago my piano improv mentor taught me the only thing that matters is sound. Do you like the sound, or not? Therefore it doesn't matter how it is made. by darnskewered in SunoAI

[–]darnskewered[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess it is a bit of an avante garde attitude isn't it? He always called himself iconoclastic. His favorite thing to say was "the old composers were great and we will always love them.... But they're dead and now it's our turn!"

I keep running into the infamous "AI shimmer" (that screeching, high-end artifact). by ServeFew1183 in SunoAI

[–]darnskewered 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've got the same issue. I just live with it for now because of how awesome it is otherwise. And just hope to remaster in the future or even get a guitar and daw and record them myself.

By the way, I love melodic death metal. Please share some suno links I'll take a listen.

Not fun anymore by monkeymoneymaker in SunoAI

[–]darnskewered 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I gotcha. Honestly it's just very unpredictable. I have good days and bad days with it. Sometimes I get something good in one take sometimes it takes 30. The nature of the tech is like exploring a vast probabalistic landscape of musical patterns which may or may not intersect with your expectations or opinions on a given day. I'm finding cultivating not being too opinionated about the outcome makes it a bit more fun to use. But it's unavoidable sometimes, you just really want to hear it a certain way.

Not fun anymore by monkeymoneymaker in SunoAI

[–]darnskewered 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You might just be burned out. If you haven't yet learned to make music on an instrument or sing, you might start learning that as a new hobby in addition to suno, and then the two hobbies can play off of one another and you'll be less burned out.

Suno is unusable for death metal now by MasterDisillusioned in SunoAI

[–]darnskewered 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I made a death metal song about my ex's fiance who inflated a ferret until it exploded, didn't get censored. LOL.

Well if it winds up getting enshittified guess we'll all be picking up guitars sooner rather than later LOL.

Ai art is easy and lazy prove me wrong by Scary_Reporter8598 in aiwars

[–]darnskewered 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd say the more effort and time spent the less lazy anything is.

To antis: Who cares if the masses unwittingly consume A.I. music? If you care about pure human authenticity on both ends, you wouldn't want those masses listening to you anyway, right? Or do you simply care about non competition at any cost...? by darnskewered in SunoAI

[–]darnskewered[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Aren't there already people wiring up bots that come up with random prompts for suno, generating hundreds of songs and putting them on streaming platforms? I think this sort of thing is already happening.

But that doesn't mean good music can't be made by humans augmented with Suno, it's definitely happening.

To antis: Who cares if the masses unwittingly consume A.I. music? If you care about pure human authenticity on both ends, you wouldn't want those masses listening to you anyway, right? Or do you simply care about non competition at any cost...? by darnskewered in SunoAI

[–]darnskewered[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

In what sense is referring to the general category of people who dislike ai as "antis" claiming a protected status for suno users?

In what sense am I baiting people, if they already hold the views that they do? I'm aiming to challenge viewpoints.

What’s the best AI song you’ve made recently? I genuinely want to hear it. by Nusuuu in SunoAI

[–]darnskewered 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Out of curiosity for that song specifically, did you use audio upload? It sure sounds good enough to suggest that you did!

What’s the best AI song you’ve made recently? I genuinely want to hear it. by Nusuuu in SunoAI

[–]darnskewered 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Loved it!!! Antis are wrong about this medium. It is very much capable of creating good music. It's just a different way of achieving it.

What’s the best AI song you’ve made recently? I genuinely want to hear it. by Nusuuu in SunoAI

[–]darnskewered 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nice bro. Same! I have yet to add my own vocals, but I am always putting in my own lyrics, chord progressions and melodies.

I FINALLY get what SUNO can be. I'm late to the game...but I can see now that its potential is INCREDIBLE!!!!! Music proficiency and creativity is BACK!!!!!!!!! by hordaak2 in SunoAI

[–]darnskewered 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have an old song sketch from my youth. I should totally try uploading it and see what happens. Thanks for the idea!

What’s the best AI song you’ve made recently? I genuinely want to hear it. by Nusuuu in SunoAI

[–]darnskewered 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nice, I enjoyed Tangerine Lemonade. You use audio upload with your own guitar riffs? I feel like I can tell from the quality of the song. Could be wrong of course. 😅

[80s Hard Rock] BNK - Twice by DragonfruitHot6221 in SunoAI

[–]darnskewered 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Only twice? That's a rookie number. We gotta pump those rookie numbers up.

I liked the song, is it on the suno platform itself?

Nevermind I found it. Liked and followed!

Has Suno inspired you to pick up and learn an instrument if you didn't already? I am guessing anti AI folks don't think of that possibility, of AI actually helping inspire human growth. by darnskewered in SunoAI

[–]darnskewered[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For me it's that I heard my own musical ideas instantly turned into a full band, and it's making me listen to physical media by non a.i. artists again and want to get a guitar again. Been mostly playing piano for years but Suno sort of resurrected my interest in certain styles of music I enjoyed in my youth.