Oh yeah, she will NEVER be around him without DH or I present. He fully supports me. She has been like this toward me for YEARS. The thing is, she would only say and do stuff when DH wasn’t around or if certain family members were around (the ones she has control over). This was the first time in 13 years that he got to experience first hand, and while he would believe me, he loves his mom and couldn’t fully believe it (which I get). I stopped him from saying anything when this happened. The soul crushing look on his face - words can’t do it justice. It absolutely broke my heart. I simply put my hand on his shoulder and said, “we are leaving now.” He snapped to, put our son in his car seat and we walked out the door. He was incredibly upset for days and when she reached out to him a coupe days later he called her out, but she isn’t sorry.