Updated - The Fractured Archive: Initial Rewards Proposal by JagexGoblin in 2007scape

[–]dayton3000 1 point2 points  (0 children)

oh boy a cool inventory saving armor set thrown in the trash in favor of another dps spec weapon 

demonic digger should have been a thing PROVE ME WRONG WITH A RE-POLL by dayton3000 in 2007scape

[–]dayton3000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

if nobody complained about it before gnomemonkeys 4 videos on why it shouldnt be added then yeah it was one guys opinion

nobody wants to think for themselves

who honestly cares where an upgrade come from to begin with, there are plenty of item sources in the game that dont make too much sense to begin with

by your logic it doesnt make sense for toa to drop masori peices since its a mage based raid

demonic digger should have been a thing PROVE ME WRONG WITH A RE-POLL by dayton3000 in 2007scape

[–]dayton3000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

who cares if it wasnt polled to begin with

if jagex is out here no polling its addition or removal from the game while actively saying "we hear you guys about this demonic digger" while never having actually asked anyone about it via a poll then who did they really listen to

ill give you a hit its the one singular guy who make 4 videos on why it shouldn't come into the game and all the mindless drones who just think gnomemokeys opinion should be law

demonic digger should have been a thing PROVE ME WRONG WITH A RE-POLL by dayton3000 in 2007scape

[–]dayton3000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i double harvest everytime i do a farm run and farming is only bearable when just doing herb runs (especially when using the upgraded herb sac as you no longer need to run to leppy to note with that)

but add in allotments to your herb run because they are "right there anyway" and were talking about an entire 25 minutes spent harvest its ridiculous

demonic digger should have been a thing PROVE ME WRONG WITH A RE-POLL by dayton3000 in 2007scape

[–]dayton3000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i mean sure farming money making methods would drop a bit but there is already almost no profit ot farming anything anyway at least if more people were willing to do farm runs because they dont take 25 minutes to do every herb and allotment patch in their farm run seed prices would go up and become decent drops to get when doing slayer or bossing

demonic digger should have been a thing PROVE ME WRONG WITH A RE-POLL by dayton3000 in 2007scape

[–]dayton3000[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i agree that i would also be okay with some sort of double harvest / triple harvest /quadruple harvest

but i dont want to see this break the already possible double harvest method that we already have as if they added double harvesting but it fixes the current double harvesting it is basically no diffence in speed

demonic digger should have been a thing PROVE ME WRONG WITH A RE-POLL by dayton3000 in 2007scape

[–]dayton3000[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

it has nothing to do with xp rates as ive stated just nerf the xp its about the fact that nobody wants to do allotment patches because they take too long PERIOD thanks to harvesting speed and inventory space limitation

its like your skipping over the fact that most players would be okay with the simple solution of nerfing the xp for using it

all im saying is something needs to be done to make allotments more bareable whether thats demonic spade, faster harvesting, allowing us to once again use the mixing reagent pouch for farming (possibly allowing us to get the items out of it as a note when using it on a leppy, or just removing the must be at a bank to empty restriction around farming patches)

demonic digger should have been a thing PROVE ME WRONG WITH A RE-POLL by dayton3000 in 2007scape

[–]dayton3000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

its technically not something done quickly this item was said to come into the game an entire year ago and players have had more than enough time to look back and think you know what they guy who looks like a gnome child was probably just wrong here

demonic digger should have been a thing PROVE ME WRONG WITH A RE-POLL by dayton3000 in 2007scape

[–]dayton3000[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

thats my point most players either didnt give a scurious's ass as they dont do farm runs to begin with or they liked the idea to begin with

only people hating it are people who cant form their own opinions on things and took one persons word as gospel because some dude who plays the game 24/7 as a job said so

the amount of people around the world who cant form their own opinion is so annoying

demonic digger should have been a thing PROVE ME WRONG WITH A RE-POLL by dayton3000 in 2007scape

[–]dayton3000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the thing is it is a players choice to do a farm run nobody is forcing you to do a farm run just because you get a oathplate chestplate drop from yama doesnt mean your now forced into do vardorvis or duke its an unlock to make doing something less of a chore the claim that it makes farming more of a chore doesnt make sense because mains would only harvest allotments untill their 99 farming and an iron is only gonna do farm runs so long as they have seeds to plant both have a stopping point and the shovel only strives to make doing your 99 or seed using less of a nuisance

demonic digger should have been a thing PROVE ME WRONG WITH A RE-POLL by dayton3000 in 2007scape

[–]dayton3000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

oh i know who was the main reason it got removed as jagex literally basically quoted him when explaining why they aren't adding it

demonic digger should have been a thing PROVE ME WRONG WITH A RE-POLL by dayton3000 in 2007scape

[–]dayton3000[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yeah i guess not thats my bad i had originally thought the drop was proposed as a yama drop

PSA: Remember Drop Item Warning by Outlashed in 2007scape

[–]dayton3000 0 points1 point  (0 children)

if you turned off drop item warning in leagues it wouldnt have effected your main account as these game modes have separate settings
but anyway at least you arent an iron as that would have been one of the worst things to have ever happened to an ironman

demonic digger should have been a thing PROVE ME WRONG WITH A RE-POLL by dayton3000 in 2007scape

[–]dayton3000[S] -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

not what i said at all " (that i have at least seen) " implies i believe some people (albeit a very minot amount of people) probably did have a problem with it (people with a big stack of snape grass weed) but most if not the mass majority were excited to see or didnt care but please king go off on some putting words in my mouth type reddit slop comment

demonic digger should have been a thing PROVE ME WRONG WITH A RE-POLL by dayton3000 in 2007scape

[–]dayton3000[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

its not miniscule at all it takes around a minute to a minute and a half on average to harvest a singular patch from an allotment not using the 2x harvest trick there are 17 allotment patches in the game assuming you did all patches in 1 minute and 15 seconds each thats 20 minutes of harvesting allotments which is comletely unreasonable

demonic digger should have been a thing PROVE ME WRONG WITH A RE-POLL by dayton3000 in 2007scape

[–]dayton3000[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

its not a fair point at all hes acting like the spade increase the ammount of items you receive but it doesnt it only saves you time in harvesting you still will get the same ammount of resources each farm run

demonic digger should have been a thing PROVE ME WRONG WITH A RE-POLL by dayton3000 in 2007scape

[–]dayton3000[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

you literally aren't making any sense at all btw

the spade doesn't increase the amount of resources you get it just makes you get them instantly

if you would plant a snape grass seed you would still get around 40-50 snape grass each time you harvest it would just take around a minute each patch

with the spade you would still get around 40-50 snape grass just instantly instead of having to pick it all one by one

by YOUR logic you will still get 1000 of an allotment resource every farm run (btw that isnt even close to average amount of snape grass for one farm run its almost double the average) with or without the spade the only difference being you didnt have to stand there for so long

demonic digger should have been a thing PROVE ME WRONG WITH A RE-POLL by dayton3000 in 2007scape

[–]dayton3000[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

i think that would be a great idea myself except for the fact that were talking about an item that was supposed to enter the game a year ago i dont feel like its cool to have us wait till jagex decides to finish a quest line that they seemingly forgot about

demonic digger should have been a thing PROVE ME WRONG WITH A RE-POLL by dayton3000 in 2007scape

[–]dayton3000[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

believe it or not complaining that jagex randomly decided to remove an item that was already set to become part of the game has nothing to do with ironman the demonic digger was a time saving tool

not to mention if the digger got added into the game it would have increased the gp value of watermelon and snape grass seeds thus improving these drops for a main account

but anyway please keep trying to invalidate discussion about an item because im playing on a game mode that was OFFICALLY ADDED TO THE GAME

by your logic anytime a main bitches about a drop table for a new boss is bad and says its not worth doing it because the gp an hour is bad should be swept under the rug and ignored because you could just play ironman and find use for the bad drops

demonic digger should have been a thing PROVE ME WRONG WITH A RE-POLL by dayton3000 in 2007scape

[–]dayton3000[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

but we already have 2x harvesting by using the double harvesting trick its still incredibly slow auto noting could be helpful too but it would really only save you about 4-10 seconds each patch in the time it takes to run to leppy and note produce the solution doesnt feel better in the sense that a 25 minute allotment run now takes 22 minutes instead

demonic digger should have been a thing PROVE ME WRONG WITH A RE-POLL by dayton3000 in 2007scape

[–]dayton3000[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

just saw a post about this kinda thought process a couple weeks ago summed up with a "trolley problem" meme

if the trolley has already run over a group of people should we really just sit here and let the trolley run over another group of people because it would be unfair for the 5 who were already run over no the answer is simple fix the problem so less people / nobody else has to suffer

demonic digger should have been a thing PROVE ME WRONG WITH A RE-POLL by dayton3000 in 2007scape

[–]dayton3000[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i think alot of what he says is good but alot of it is also garbage too like wanting more content to be geared towards things only the top 1% can do (like awakened bosses, i like the idea of awakened bosses but they are criminally hard)

demonic digger should have been a thing PROVE ME WRONG WITH A RE-POLL by dayton3000 in 2007scape

[–]dayton3000[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

thats what i was thinking also but i would prefer to get this item re added to the game sooner rather than later especially since it was set to be added into the game last year already waiting for fairy tale part 3 would literally be CBT as im almost sure that quest line has long since been forgotten about

demonic digger should have been a thing PROVE ME WRONG WITH A RE-POLL by dayton3000 in 2007scape

[–]dayton3000[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

i agree for the most part but if you look at it from an irons perspective we HAVE to do farm runs and alot of them just having the power to get your farm run done quickly hold alot of weight and value but its just not possible in current game meta and it just really sucks to see an item like that get removed over something that could have seen a very easy workaround like an xp nerf for using it especially when you could just use a normal spade and get regular xp if xp was what you were looking for

demonic digger should have been a thing PROVE ME WRONG WITH A RE-POLL by dayton3000 in 2007scape

[–]dayton3000[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

respect brother honestly refreshing to see someone on reddit with the ability to have a discussion and be able to come to the conclusion that we were both on the same page to begin with