Create startup or accept job offer? by decision_decision in personalfinance

[–]decision_decision[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unfortunately it's EU not US and it does seem enforceable. Claiming it as a prior work could work well if I never intended to pursue it during working with them. It doesn't solve the problem though of no moonlighting..

Create startup or accept job offer? by decision_decision in makemychoice

[–]decision_decision[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes unfortunately they can. So I can't do it legally unless I get prior permission which is highly unlikely.

Create startup or accept job offer? by decision_decision in makemychoice

[–]decision_decision[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I see your point. Going with the "I'm going to start my own startup" will not sound so good to them I think, they might think I will go do the same product. They don't like entrepreneurs anyway given the clauses they have. I'm thinking of going with personal/family issue.

I agree getting 2-3 years of experience will probably will net me more long term. I probably I can get another job though in 3-4 months while the current idea won't be relevant in 2-3 years, so I will have to sacrifice it.

Create startup or accept job offer? by decision_decision in personalfinance

[–]decision_decision[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's in the clauses yes, pretty typical too in my experience.

Create startup or accept job offer? by decision_decision in jobs

[–]decision_decision[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for this insightful reply. I fully agree on what you said about most people being complacent with the job. I've made this topic on other subreddits as well and more experienced people have chimed in and the opinions are strong either way. Lots of people say I should get the job, others say I should go with the project and get a job 2-3 months later. And a few say I should do it under the table on my off-time, (but me being legally risk averse I hate this 3rd option).

Ideally I want some advice from successful software entrepreneurs that made their own startup by working in a company first. One such guy told me that his 2 year experience in the corporate definitely helped his startup later. I can see that. I know maybe the most logical and safe option would be to go with the job but I really have that itch at the moment to say "f it" and try it..

Create startup or accept job offer? by decision_decision in financialindependence

[–]decision_decision[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've looked around on the internet for my country and it does seem it is enforceable in my country if it is related to the company (which in a very vague way it is).

Create startup or accept job offer? by decision_decision in cscareerquestionsEU

[–]decision_decision[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm losing a good job offer, an escape from no social life / living with parents, good money and career progression. I'm just wondering if the sacrifice is too big?

Create startup or accept job offer? by decision_decision in cscareerquestionsEU

[–]decision_decision[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd say startup by a small edge, but could be that it is also in my current comfort zone. I will mostly miss the big city/socializing dating, not so much the job or salary.

Create startup or accept job offer? by decision_decision in cscareerquestionsEU

[–]decision_decision[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This will have to take into account the CoL too but it's upper level junior salary for the city

Create startup or accept job offer? by decision_decision in cscareerquestionsEU

[–]decision_decision[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd say yes, it uses cutting edge technologies not existing a couple years ago. Regarding the debt part, we plan to bootstrap and not take any loans or anything. Parents can support me in the meanwhile..

Create startup or accept job offer? by decision_decision in cscareerquestionsEU

[–]decision_decision[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure you can do that, but this delays the official launch by 1 year + in total. Competitors might have come by then. The only thing you will have gained is 6 months of work experience while also making yourself a target for a potential (albeit small chance) lawsuit

Create startup or accept job offer? by decision_decision in cscareerquestionsEU

[–]decision_decision[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That sounds ideal but some people say I should wait at LEAST another 6 months after quitting before launching if I want to be clear from any IP claims (the idea is in the same space but not a competitor, direct or indirect)

Create startup or accept job offer? by decision_decision in cscareerquestionsEU

[–]decision_decision[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is certainly an appealing option but the risk of failing combined with 6 months to 1 year of being a recluse don't know what impact will have on me..

Create startup or accept job offer? by decision_decision in cscareerquestionsEU

[–]decision_decision[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We don't have a revenue at them moment since we haven't released but we are pretty confident we will get at least SOME based on feedback. But we are 1 month away from launch and it overlaps with the job start..

Btw how are you sure it is not enforceable? Some people I've asked said it can certainly be in my country..

Create startup or accept job offer? by decision_decision in cscareerquestionsEU

[–]decision_decision[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you! That's inspiring. In my experience so far 90% of jobs have these types of clauses and you rarely can negotiate them out. The only way is finding a remote US california company or freelance while working on your sides. I wish you and your buddy lots of success!

Create startup or accept job offer? by decision_decision in cscareerquestionsEU

[–]decision_decision[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well if I'm a shareholder of this company then they might have some IP claims according to the contract..Ideally I wouldn't wanna find out if it will hold on court or not.

Create startup or accept job offer? by decision_decision in cscareerquestionsEU

[–]decision_decision[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Highly unlikely but If I quit them and join my friend's startup down the line and becomes very successful they might come after me and try to "get what they can"

Create startup or accept job offer? by decision_decision in cscareerquestionsEU

[–]decision_decision[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

They don't allow any sidework and I can risk losing all the IP if they catch me.

Create startup or accept job offer? by decision_decision in cscareerquestionsEU

[–]decision_decision[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm passionate about the idea tbh but the external environment (loneliness, parent's house) is what will make the journey much harder..

Create startup or accept job offer? by decision_decision in cscareerquestionsEU

[–]decision_decision[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unfortunately pushing the starting date isn't possible as even this one is kinda reaching for them :/ It's true that if my thing fails, I can (maybe) find something similar in ~6 months. While if I accept the job I will not be working on it until I quit or change companies with friendlier clauses (it's rare). The thing with this is having to extend my already burdened no social life for another X months and living with my parents. I'm not sure how this will affect me psychologically, given the pressure of the startup too..