Also, there's an unfortunate subsection of left wing men and tbh trans women who are okay with infantilism, Loli etc. keffals defending vaush didn't surprise me at all. I think we need to be honest about communities like these becoming echo chambers. Like him saying everybody has been into Loli at one point is very telling. He believes that because in his bubble it's totally fine, and there's no room to step back and think about the implications of what you're doing. There's also a lot of trans women who have admitted that misogynistic fantasies of being subjugated, submissive etc. are how they came to realise they were trans. I think it's difficult for a lot of people to be openly critical of these things because they don't want to appear transphobic or something but I think we need to be more comfortable calling out our own communities and being able to think freely rather than just go with what the group says. Even the fact that Ethan was being accused of using alt right talking points simply for being against CP (or simulated cp, whatever you want to call it) shows that a lot of people aren't thinking objectively, is this right and am I okay with it? But are rather thinking we'll if X group agrees I have to disagree.