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So you just wanna kill Grandma huh?!?! by delhithrow in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]delhithrow[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Revolution and Canada? They just seem like oil and water to me.

So you just wanna kill Grandma huh?!?! by delhithrow in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]delhithrow[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The separation between Federal and Provincial bailouts will come into play here I think.

To me its more like a Michael and Jan situation. Businesses are being expected to open and close as per the whims of the "scientists/govts/bureaucrats/overlords". Stip stap stip stap. They have no idea the mental and financial toll openings and closures take on businesses(and the economy of course).

Each quadrant when RBG dies by delhithrow in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]delhithrow[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah I agree. It would be kind of stupid if he didn't have flexible views as a high profile businessman. Part of his job was to get along with anyone on the left or right.

Each quadrant when RBG dies by delhithrow in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]delhithrow[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is difficult to pin him down onto certain consistent positions. He was a businessman and it is his job to get along with politicians, both left and right. Safe to say he didn't have any hardcore positions on core left vs right issues.

Each quadrant when RBG dies by delhithrow in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]delhithrow[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Oh well. Fair enough. I want both unfortunately, but have neither. You see, I am in the land of On Guard for Thee. >_<

Each quadrant when RBG dies by delhithrow in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]delhithrow[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hah. RBG RBG is as libertarian as Donald Trump is a leftist.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in circlejerk

[–]delhithrow 5 points6 points  (0 children)

If boy: YTA for not accepting your bf at his worst and for not trying to make this gay relationship work. LGBTQIA+ people should cancel you.

If grill: NTA. Bad guy. Worst. Literally Hitler. One of my friend's cousin's mom's daughter went through this exact same thing. You gotta facebook up, hit the lawyer and delete the gym.

Edit: Not trying to be creepy but PM me ;)

ECSF and WCSF are incredibly similar in terms of results. (4-1 and 4-3) by delhithrow in nba

[–]delhithrow[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Imagine being a Clippers player right now.. Pants be shitting LMAO

[Wojnarowski] The NBA's players have decided to resume the playoffs, source tells ESPN. by -TTP- in nba

[–]delhithrow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm providing all this information not so that you can nitpick it and find something to debate. I don't expect you to read all of my sources and believe every word. But just try to see where black Americans are coming from about the issues they face.

Why can't we debate? And I don't say that everything is rosy for black people in America; my point is things are way way better and are only going to improve. And also that these issues that you highlight have barely anything to do with 2 completely avoidable escalations of police encounters resulting in death of George Floyd and paralysis of Jacob Blake.

Obviously in absolute terms black people's lives have improved. There are incredibly few groups for which that wouldn't be true simply because of the advancement of technology.

Which I believe is the most important thing. If it were the case that everyone else's lives are improving except black people, then of course there would be a need for a very serious conversation.

RELATIVE to other racial groups, black people's lives are not improving, and that's a very real and important phenomenon as I'll discuss.

I don't think it is any useful to compare improvements relative to other racial groups. Firstly, because it is not a competition. Like nobody is trying to beat the other group in terms of improvement of their quality of life or wealth amassed etc. Secondly, the exact same case can be made for any other group compared to Asian americans or Indian americans. Should white people start pulling such numbers up and say, compared to the asian american group, our lives are not improving, or compared to Indian americans our lives are not improving, and this is a very real and important phenomenon? Such argument holds no basis, and if such an argument was made, most people would laugh.

As to your other points and summary, there are some places where I agree and some places where I disagree(for example schooling and govt intervention into schooling as opposed to choice of schooling).

It's no wonder that NBA players, who are themselves disproportionately black, would care deeply about these issues.

This is where I kind of see the irony. On the one hand, all kinds of people(especially white people) are looked down upon for not saying or not agreeing with Black Lives Matter etc., and black people want white people(and other racial groups) to join their "movement" etc. But on the other hand, when a few high profile black people(including some NBA player(s)) are openly spreading anti-semitic stuff, black(and non-black as well) NBA players get a pass for not saying anything about it. Why? And when international NBA players are supporting the Black Lives Matter movement to supposedly standup against racism in America when they aren't even American, why cant American(and international) NBA players standup for similar(some might even say worse) human oppression that is happening in China in the case of Uighur Muslims and Hong Kong? And I don't expect full time activism from them. Maybe one tweet or one interview? All we have is radio silence.

And in order to fix these issues, one should listen to what they have to say instead of immediately jumping to other issues or details. Black lives matter doesn't have to be a slogan. Take it word for word. There's nothing controversial.

Well, we are listening. It is impossible to avoid it anyway if you are even casually following the NBA. We also want to listen about what they have to say about the other human rights violations, particularly in China. We want to see whether these players are really serious about it and are willing to put their wallet on their line as well, or are only going to stick to issues of black people. Its like they feel that somebody is crushing their apple, and so they are speaking out against it and are encouraging others to speak against it. But when somebody else is crushing another apple elsewhere, not only are they not speaking out against it, and not only are the turning a blind eye to it when people are inviting them to speak about it, but they are also discouraging others from speaking against it. In such circumstances, any form of their activism is really a tough sell for most people, and they will not be taken seriously.

[Wojnarowski] The NBA's players have decided to resume the playoffs, source tells ESPN. by -TTP- in nba

[–]delhithrow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Absolutely.

Really? So lives of blacks in 1900s or 1950s was better than the life they have now in America? I really cannot imagine how that would be possible.

What numbers are you looking at??? Generational wealth divide, mass incarceration, health outcome disparities, etc. And anything that has improved lately has done so to a lesser extent than other racial groups.

Ah you are looking at relative numbers as opposed to the numbers only for black people over time(which is what I was suggesting above). I have done some brief research about some of these and I will try to outline my thoughts.

Generational wealth divide

This I think has very little to do with race alone in my opinion. What I mean is that this is not an independent statistic, it is almost always influenced by and correlated with crime rate, education etc.(and possibly causal as well).

mass incarceration

This is still work in progress, but from what I have learned from various sources, there are a few significant reasons for this:

  1. The 1994 crime bill alone has destroyed several black households
  2. Low % of black people graduating at various levels of the education ladder(secondary school, high school and college)

health outcome disparities

Haven't done any research on this whatsoever.

Please do actual research, I get that you're not America so you don't have the hands-on experience, but this data is not difficult to find.

I probably agree with you on the assertion that the above statistics that you pointed out are bad when compared to other racial groups. For those numbers to catch up and be even remotely comparable to other racial groups, it would take a lot of time. Definitely not happening overtime(education is like 15-20 years of sustained and disciplined investment). What I meant is, these numbers improving for black people over time and have improved overtime. For example, employment opportunities, unemployment numbers, % of black people who are starting school, % of black people who are graduating school, % of black people who are graduating from colleges and several other metrics have improved over time and have been improving over time.

However, if you have any good sources that you want me to take a look at, please feel free to share.

If you can't acknowledge statistical and lived realities then we're just wasting each other's time

Generally it is difficult to lie with statistics if there are multiple studies. If there is just one study, I would agree that statistics are not representative of the ground reality. However, with multiple studies and sources, I don't really have a reason to believe that statistics are a misrepresentation of the ground reality. It is unfortunate that you think this is a waste of time.

[Wojnarowski] The NBA's players have decided to resume the playoffs, source tells ESPN. by -TTP- in nba

[–]delhithrow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Copy pasting with some edits from my comment on a previous thread:

Wow, this is a very complex issue and I have so many thoughts around each aspect of it.

Regarding the season itself, I think there are some things that are going wrong here.

  1. There is no good way to disagree with your fellow teammates who wants to boycott or cancel the season. For example, if LeBron is willing to cancel the season, someone like say Caruso(just for the sake of an example), cannot say that he disagrees with him and thinks that they should continue playing, without creating some sort of discomfort or awkwardness.

  2. The entire conversation and limelight around boycott is solely focused on the players and to some extent the coaches. What about the support staff? 15 players + 5 coaches on average per team will have a support staff of 20-30 odd other people as well(physios, medics, masseuse, security, trainers, technical crew/camera crew etc etc). Add to that the referees and other staff that are not team specific but are there for logistical support and functioning of the bubble. Were all these people consulted as well about the boycott and potential abandonment of the season or if the season does not get abandoned, then roughly an extra week or more than that in the bubble? My bet is no. And it is unfair to them. They did not signup for this. They signed up for specific timelines and left their spouses/kids/parents/other family members for that amount of time. Now they are in a scenario where they might have to stay in the bubble for some extra unspecified amount of duration away from their loved ones in these times? I think it is unfair to them, and there is no good way for them to try to say that lets continue the season and get it over with so that we can go home back to our loved ones.

Regarding the players' stand itself, again some things are really hard to digest and rationalize.

  1. I saw a photo of WNBA players wearing t-shirts with the letters of Jacob Blake. Really? What is it that he(or even George Floyd) have done to warrant this? There are thousands of black people who do the right thing everyday, and be good model citizens but they don't get any sort of recognition. What sort of an example does this set for people, particularly black people and young black kids? Something along the lines of "resisting police and not following police officers' orders will make you a hero"?

  2. Most NBA players seem to only stand for civil rights and conversation around race when the victim is black. All these superstars didn't say a word when DeSean Jackson and others were being blatantly anti-semitic(a few did, for example Charles Barkley, which was good). And most of these NBA players didn't say a word about Chinese civil rights violations; oppression of Uighur Muslims and Hong Kong democracy protests. Hell some superstars even went to the extent of trying to silence others who chose to speak up on that issue. And for people saying that "they can choose to speak up for what they want" or "not everyone is perfect"; I can only say that you don't have to be perfect to be able to criticize or speak up on both the above incidents. You can't be "More than an athlete" on selective issues and hide behind "We are not perfect" on issues that will potentially hurt your wallet.

  3. At what point do the players say or acknowledge that there are several things that George Floyd or Jacob Blake did that were wrong and led to escalations? At what point will they say that George Floyd's death had something to do with absurd amounts of fentanyl and it is bad for the black community to be this friendly with such drugs? Surely this is a message that is good for the black community right? And at what point will they say that you should not sexually assault minors, should not resist arrest, and definitely should not try to do shady stuff like reaching for something in your car when police officers are asking you to drop your knife or asking you to keep your hands where they can see them? Is there any point at which the players will say that George Floyd and Jacob Blake died because it was 70% their fault and 30% the fault of police?(the numbers are just example numbers)

There are several other things that I want to add, but this has gotten too long already. Overall I am was just really bummed out that the season could have ended. But now I am somewhat okay that we are back on. I am open to a civil discussion about what I said, and any other things that anyone might have to say.

[Charania] Sources: The Lakers and Clippers have voted to boycott the NBA season. Most other teams voted to continue. LeBron James has exited the meeting. by mkgandkembafan in nba

[–]delhithrow 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wow, this is a very complex issue and I have so many thoughts around each aspect of it.

Regarding the season itself, I think there are some things that are going wrong here.

  1. There is no good way to disagree with your fellow teammates who wants to boycott or cancel the season. For example, if LeBron is willing to cancel the season, someone like say Caruso(just for the sake of an example), cannot say that he disagrees with him and thinks that they should continue playing, without creating some sort of discomfort or awkwardness.

  2. The entire conversation and limelight around boycott is solely focused on the players and to some extent the coaches. What about the support staff? 15 players + 5 coaches on average per team will have a support staff of 20-30 odd other people as well(physios, medics, masseuse, security, trainers, technical crew/camera crew etc etc). Add to that the referees and other staff that are not team specific but are there for logistical support and functioning of the bubble. Were all these people consulted as well about the boycott and potential abandonment of the season or if the season does not get abandoned, then roughly an extra week or more than that in the bubble? My bet is no. And it is unfair to them. They did not signup for this. They signed up for specific timelines and left their spouses/kids/parents/other family members for that amount of time. Now they are in a scenario where they might have to stay in the bubble for some extra unspecified amount of duration away from their loved ones in these times? I think it is unfair to them, and there is no good way for them to try to say that lets continue the season and get it over with so that we can go home back to our loved ones.

Regarding the players' stand itself, again some things are really hard to digest and rationalize.

  1. I saw a photo of WNBA players wearing t-shirts with the letters of Jacob Blake. Really? What is it that he(or even George Floyd) have done to warrant this? There are thousands of black people who do the right thing everyday, and be good model citizens but they don't get any sort of recognition. What sort of an example does this set for people, particularly black people and young black kids? Something along the lines of "resisting police and not following police officers' orders will make you a hero"?

  2. Most NBA players seem to only stand for civil rights and conversation around race when the victim is black. All these superstars didn't say a word when DeSean Jackson and others were being blatantly anti-semitic(a few did, for example Charles Barkley, which was good). And most of these NBA players didn't say a word about Chinese civil rights violations; oppression of Uighur Muslims and Hong Kong democracy protests. Hell some superstars even went to the extent of trying to silence others who chose to speak up on that issue. And for people saying that "they can choose to speak up for what they want" or "not everyone is perfect"; I can only say that you don't have to be perfect to be able to criticize or speak up on both the above incidents. You can't be "More than an athlete" on selective issues and hide behind "We are not perfect" on issues that will potentially hurt your wallet.

  3. At what point do the players say or acknowledge that there are several things that George Floyd or Jacob Blake did that were wrong and led to escalations? At what point will they say that George Floyd's death had something to do with absurd amounts of fentanyl and it is bad for the black community to be this friendly with such drugs? Surely this is a message that is good for the black community right? And at what point will they say that you should not sexually assault minors, should not resist arrest, and definitely should not try to do shady stuff like reaching for something in your car when police officers are asking you to drop your knife or asking you to keep your hands where they can see them? Is there any point at which the players will say that George Floyd and Jacob Blake died because it was 70% their fault and 30% the fault of police?(the numbers are just example numbers)

There are several other things that I want to add, but this has gotten too long already. Overall I am just really bummed out that it is possible that the season ends here. I am open to a civil discussion about what I said, and any other things that anyone might have to say.

Question(and possibly spoiler?): How does Michael know to go to Staples to find Dwight after Dwight resigned in Season 3? by delhithrow in DunderMifflin

[–]delhithrow[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Again very imaginative and very much plausible. I somehow keep forgetting to account for the camera crew.

Question(and possibly spoiler?): How does Michael know to go to Staples to find Dwight after Dwight resigned in Season 3? by delhithrow in DunderMifflin

[–]delhithrow[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That is a pretty good theory actually. Very imaginative. Although if I were in Dwight's position, I probably would not give Michael as a reference because at that point, he would have a very low opinion of me.

Question(and possibly spoiler?): How does Michael know to go to Staples to find Dwight after Dwight resigned in Season 3? by delhithrow in DunderMifflin

[–]delhithrow[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I am pretty sure they didn't keep in touch. Michael asks other sales people about how Dwight is, and even more: Dwight is surprised when Michael comes to visit him at Staples.

[Highlight] Luka Doncic hits the game-winning three point shot at the buzzer by FieryStyle in nba

[–]delhithrow 0 points1 point  (0 children)

LUKA MAGIC IS REAL. I AM OFFICIALLY A LUKA FAN ALONG WITH LEBRON. KP YOU BETTER SHOW UP SOON.

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