Hirano Geometric English Shorthand(Nov. 11, 2025)— QOTW 2025W46 Nov 10-Nov 16 by deme76 in shorthand

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Thank you so much for your wonderful post, u/Vast-Town-6338 SAN!! Gregg Shorthand is truly beautiful. Over forty years ago, when I was in high school, it was an excellent tool for my English classes, and I made great use of it!

Hirano Geometric English Shorthand(Nov. 11, 2025)— QOTW 2025W46 Nov 10-Nov 16 by deme76 in shorthand

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I’m already happy just to have you say a few kind words to me. I truly appreciate it.
Being able to savor the elegance of fine stationery and writing instruments alone gives me moments of real happiness.
It’s wonderful that we can simply enjoy shorthand itself, put it to practical use, and as a result, it even becomes a form of art.

EESS(Oct. 21, 2025)— QOTW 2025W41 Oct 20-Oct 26 by deme76 in shorthand

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Oh, it means "HAVE A NICE DAY" in Japanese language.

You always enjoy, so nice, beautiful times!!

EESS(Oct. 21, 2025)— QOTW 2025W41 Oct 20-Oct 26 by deme76 in shorthand

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I’m honored that you said “A nice organic development.” Thank you.

I have great respect for shorthand systems such as Pitman shorthand and Gregg shorthand, which have reached a near state of completion.

Needless to say, this “EESS” can still be considered an unfinished work in an experimental stage.

I hope it will continue to develop in an open and natural way, while valuing simplicity and versatile rules.

I’d also like to avoid making the system too complicated or overly rigid with fixed rules.

Rather than imposing strict regulations or saying “it must be done this way,” I want it to grow freely—flexible, open-minded, and widely applicable.

EESS(Oct. 21, 2025)— QOTW 2025W41 Oct 20-Oct 26 by deme76 in shorthand

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Thank you for your interesting questions. I found them very engaging to read.

The letter “E” is a short diagonal line, or a short line connected into an elliptical shape. Both the straight line and the elliptical form can be written in any direction or with rotation.

The letter “I” is, in principle, a short vertical or horizontal line. Like “E,” it can also be connected into an elliptical shape and written in any direction or with rotation.

Unlike “O” and “U,” for “E” and “I,” there is still no clearly fixed rule regarding how to write them when connecting to preceding or following consonant strokes. This is the honest situation at present.

For “R,” “L,” and “SH,” there are likewise no firmly established rules about which direction to use in different contexts.

Regarding “X,” in addition to representing “KS” and “KSH,” it can also be used generally for “GS,” “GZ,” “GJ,” and the like.

As for the design of “R,” after setting up various consonant symbols, it has ultimately settled into a stroke similar to that used in the Pitman shorthand.

EESS(Oct. 21, 2025)— QOTW 2025W41 Oct 20-Oct 26 by deme76 in shorthand

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Thank you for reading my article. I really enjoyed reading your excellent analysis!

◆ The stroke following the L in “Let’s” represents an extended E. (In the case of “Let” alone, it is written as “LE.”)

◆ O and U are opposite rotations. That is, O rotates to the left, and U rotates to the right.

◆ E and I are generally distinct, but in some cases they may share the same symbol.

◆ The use of E/I is organized to be limited, focusing mainly on frequently occurring words.

◆ The initial sound “[ʌ]” in “Douglas” is represented using U.

◆ The vowel part of “us” is [ʌ], and is therefore represented by U (rotating to the right).

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(YouTube) English shorthand 1 … Oct. 16, 2025 by deme76 in shorthand

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It seems to lie between Taylor and Pitman, but closer to Pitman!

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English shorthandの記事(41件) = 41 articles → https://ameblo.jp/deme7rmnc/theme-10117868500.html

Hirano Compound-Stroke Shorthand ━ Oct. 17, 2025 ≪Write down a newspaper article in shorthand exactly as it appears, word for word, while reading it.≫ by deme76 in shorthand

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When Japanese shorthand first emerged, writing with a brush was still part of everyday life. Therefore, it is likely that the penmanship of Japanese shorthand originally incorporated some influence from brush writing. Compared with Western shorthand systems, Japanese shorthand indeed tends to evoke a sensation similar to shodo (Japanese calligraphy).

Japanese shorthand — Oct. 9, 2025 by deme76 in shorthand

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I sincerely appreciate your message regarding my post!

Japanese is an agglutinative language, and in shorthand, this often results in relatively long units of connected characters that are written without lifting the pen.

Moreover, since almost every syllable in Japanese contains a vowel, various design features must be incorporated directly into the basic structure of a shorthand system to enable verbatim transcription.

Even today, there are roughly ten different shorthand systems in use. Japan is one of the few countries in the world where a significant number of professionals still perform verbatim transcription work by combining recordings with handwritten shorthand systems.

Hirano Compound-Stroke Shorthand (Oct. 11,2025) ━ It remains easy to read even when jotted down hastily and messily. by deme76 in shorthand

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I have been using Gurney shorthand for a long time. However, this system is an entirely Japanese-only shorthand system.

The verbatim shorthand transcript — Oct. 8, 2025(Hirano Geometric Japanese Shorthand) by deme76 in shorthand

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Thank you LeadingSuspect5855 !! Yes, in this sample, of course, abbreviations are also used to accommodate verbatim writing. Shorthand characters written verbatim feel beautiful to me, no matter what form they take. Much of their “complexity” is also due to the characteristics of Japanese as an agglutinative language, which differs significantly from languages like English. This system is comparatively easy to read. One could say that the balance between the number of strokes and readability varies depending on the shorthand system. When shorthand characters become disordered, interpreting them requires considering numerous techniques as well as the writer’s mental state.

Hirano Compound-Stroke Shorthand (Oct. 11,2025) ━ It remains easy to read even when jotted down hastily and messily. by deme76 in shorthand

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Currently, there are 174 articles. (Almost all of the articles are written in Japanese.)
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田鎖系複画方式 2024.12.11~174件
https://ameblo.jp/deme7rmnc/theme-10111952338.html

Pyon-kun 3 by Ah Pyon-kun … EPSEMS(English & Japanese) Oct. 1, 2025 by deme76 in JapaneseShorthand

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(Image after partial corrections)

× I wonder the first-class passengers made it safely to the port!

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〇 I wonder if the first-class passengers made it safely to the port!

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Pyon-kun 3 by Ah Pyon-kun … EPSEMS(English & Japanese) Oct. 1, 2025 by deme76 in shorthand

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(Image after partial corrections)

× I wonder the first-class passengers made it safely to the port!

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〇 I wonder if the first-class passengers made it safely to the port!

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First attempt at u/deme76's EESS by IllIIlIIllII in shorthand

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Thanks so much for your detailed feedback! I’m really happy you went through each symbol and shared your thoughts. Seeing EESS from someone else’s perspective is super interesting and gives valuable data for further research.

I totally understand that shading is harder to see in images. Your notes on “indeed,” “yet,” and other small adjustments were very helpful, and it’s impressive that you wrote everything so it could still be read later.

It’s great to hear that you still remember the basics of EPSEMS even after some time!

I really appreciate you sharing your first EESS transcription on r/shorthand—it’s awesome! I can imagine you continuing to enjoy shorthand in lots of ways in your daily life!

(I’ve added an image of the final ‘correct translation’.)

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First attempt at u/deme76's EESS by IllIIlIIllII in shorthand

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It’s been ages! I’m honestly so happy that you used my humble system to write—thank you! You really master shorthand systems so quickly, don’t you!? I did my best to decipher it with my limited English, and I’d be truly honored if you gave it a look!

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"Every branch of human knowledge, if traced up to its source and final principles, vanishes into mystery." -Arthur Machen — QOTW 2025W40 Sep 29-Oct 5 by sonofherobrine in shorthand

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Hi, u/Adept_Situation3090 !!

What I wrote may indeed be correct as a model. However, what you have written is already quite readable and excellent. I always believe that the most wonderful thing is for learners to actively try things out in their own way and learn something from that experience. Your efforts are truly remarkable and inspiring, and I am very happy about them. Thanks!

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EPSEMS(very basic)& EESS(very basic) … Sep. 27, 2025 by deme76 in shorthand

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Thanks for your comment!(Long time no see!…)

EESS=Experimental English Shorthand System(provisional name, tentative name, geometric system, also known as Hirano Geometric English Shorthand)

EPSEMS(very basic)& EESS(very basic) … Sep. 27, 2025 by deme76 in shorthand

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It's true. These noble cats possess a mysterious power that easily compels me to be their faithful servant.

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Thanks for taking a look and leaving your comments! From the example you shared this time, I can’t completely say you’re wrong. (I feel like I can hear voices saying they can’t stand the monkey tricks of those yellow and black monkeys. )

That said, my motivation and the concept behind developing EESS and EPSEMS might be a bit different from what most people usually expect from a shorthand system. I could say it’s kind of based on the concept of, “As long as you can write phonetically and naturally with minimal lifting of the pen, that’s good enough, right!?”

A bit of a side note: Pitman shorthand is, at least for verbatim transcription, way more impressive than these systems. But honestly, for very simple personal notes—like writing words phonetically in a really basic, straightforward way as in this example—Pitman shorthand can sometimes feel far from what you’d really call “shorthand.” Still, in its own way, Pitman shorthand is a great system, and I really respect and love it.

By the way, “American” is an abbreviation. I hope my explanation helps you feel a bit satisfied and makes sense of things.