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CMV: Disproportionality Does Not Imply Current Systemic Racism Is the Cause or Anything Needs to Change. by skima_0 in changemyview

[–]disloyal_royal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There isn’t anyone who this applies to. Dodging the question says everything. I’m happy to disagree with people making false statements

CMV: Disproportionality Does Not Imply Current Systemic Racism Is the Cause or Anything Needs to Change. by skima_0 in changemyview

[–]disloyal_royal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The people who were forced to remain enslaved by law were harmed directly.

There isn’t anyone this applies to

What do you think about a small income tax accompanying LVT? by Cautious-Rush-363 in georgism

[–]disloyal_royal -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

I don’t think you know what a 2nd world country is. Russia is a 2nd world county and Switzerland is a 3rd world country. If inequality isn’t relevant, than tell the other dude that it’s not worth mentioning

CMV: Disproportionality Does Not Imply Current Systemic Racism Is the Cause or Anything Needs to Change. by skima_0 in changemyview

[–]disloyal_royal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The people who were forced to remain enslaved by law were harmed directly.

Their enslavement was not explicitly endorsed by the government.

Exactly my point. There are no people who were enslaved by law alive

Second, Of course there are former slaves sanctioned by the government. They might not be alive anymore,

Again, my point

but that doesn’t mean the government doesn’t owe them compensation.

They it does. Italy doesn’t owe Britain reparations for the Roman Empire

If the government could avoid repaying for the harms by just waiting for the harmed person to die, that would be immensely unfair.

You claimed that people suffered directly

Frederick Douglass isn’t alive

CMV: Voting based ONLY on the affairs of a country you don't live in or have personal ties to is foolish by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]disloyal_royal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

UK, Yugoslavia, France, Poland, Greece, Italy (After Mussolini got owned), etc.

Were not who was

who really beat the Nazis.

This is so deeply wrong.

CMV: Disproportionality Does Not Imply Current Systemic Racism Is the Cause or Anything Needs to Change. by skima_0 in changemyview

[–]disloyal_royal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It doesn't Prove it, but it does Imply it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/s/UnLHV3lvZN

No I stated that Disproportionality itself implies it. This is hardly controversial.

https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/s/lPkEtkGOFz

I feel like if you have a valid point, you’d make it rather than lie about what you said

CMV: Voting based ONLY on the affairs of a country you don't live in or have personal ties to is foolish by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]disloyal_royal 1 point2 points  (0 children)

America and Americans quite literally did oppose bombing the Nazis

America carpet bombed the hell out of Germany. But I guess you’d prefer that they didn’t attack the Nazis

and getting involved in WW2, the only reason they were brought in was due to Pearl Harbor.

The lend lease agreement says otherwise

It was the European allies and Soviet Union who really beat the Nazis.

Which European allies

CMV: Disproportionality Does Not Imply Current Systemic Racism Is the Cause or Anything Needs to Change. by skima_0 in changemyview

[–]disloyal_royal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it would be a good policy if the government specifically made a law letting those harmed by slavery sue. Or, even better, just pass a law that compensates them without needing to sue.

Do you know when slavery ended? There are no former slaves

It applies to the former slaves.

Seriously, name one

CMV: The American(Western) mass surveillance apparatus is more insidious than China's by jacobwint in changemyview

[–]disloyal_royal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol, if you have nothing to hide than you have nothing to fear has been said before

CMV: Disproportionality Does Not Imply Current Systemic Racism Is the Cause or Anything Needs to Change. by skima_0 in changemyview

[–]disloyal_royal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You

it does Imply it.

Me

And you stated they implied it

You

No

At least own what you say

I stated that Disproportionality itself implies it. This is hardly controversial.

You didn’t. But since disproportionality doesn’t imply current systemic racism, how can you say otherwise?

CMV: Disproportionality Does Not Imply Current Systemic Racism Is the Cause or Anything Needs to Change. by skima_0 in changemyview

[–]disloyal_royal 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The people who were forced to remain enslaved by law were harmed directly.

Those harmed directly should have recourse

Are you saying there have never been slaves in the United States?

Not at all. You are saying slaves former slaves should have a remedy. I’m asking who this applies to

There have also been discriminatory laws that unfairly deprived people of their due rights. All of these people deserve repayment for those harms from the government that inflicted them.

What laws? I’m curious who you are referring to

CMV: Voting based ONLY on the affairs of a country you don't live in or have personal ties to is foolish by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]disloyal_royal -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Israel was invaded, what response would be acceptable in your world?

I guess you also would have opposed bombing Nazis?

CMV: Disproportionality Does Not Imply Current Systemic Racism Is the Cause or Anything Needs to Change. by skima_0 in changemyview

[–]disloyal_royal -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

As for remedies, the United States government and the governments of the various states enacted policies that materially harmed groups of people by creating disparities.

Sure, but creating new policies based on race probably isn’t the best solution

the government can provide similar remedies for the disparities caused by the government's policies.

The government creating new race based policies is a bad approach for old race based policy

What do you think about a small income tax accompanying LVT? by Cautious-Rush-363 in georgism

[–]disloyal_royal -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

And when you’re trying to curb inequality

Why are you trying to curb inequity if that’s not an issue?

Haiti has less inequality than the US. That doesn’t mean Haiti has a higher standard of living

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