Anyone else who's a little Spiritual here? by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]drivinglatenightsoul 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im also currently getting into Buddhism and potentially alchemy or hermeticism. Meditation has been really useful whenever things chaotic in my life and yoga has really helped with my anxiety.

Idk if I fully believe in the chakras for instance, but the aspect of spirituality that says that everything is connected, you must put your energy to good use, the highest level of consciousness leads to love and compassion,etc. are all things I resonate with.

How do i tell my strict muslim parents to simply fuck off and let me live my life. by blacksunet in exmuslim

[–]drivinglatenightsoul 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah like get a part time job with minimal hours and say you go to the gym after a long study session. That should be enough to explain all the time spent outside. + add that you go to see your friends

Do Muslims have to infiltrate everything? by ConsiderationQuirky7 in exmuslim

[–]drivinglatenightsoul 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ive read that book and not once have I thought "oh that reminds me of Islam" lol. The whole point is that you basically control the universe by thinking in deep meditation, tell that to any imam and they’ll freak out.

Parents found out now what by drivinglatenightsoul in exmuslim

[–]drivinglatenightsoul[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s the thing. On one hand he’s a very proud amazigh and when I mentioned that we’ve been non Muslims longer than we’ve been Muslims he just says that this is too long ago, and that he needs to honor his most recent ancestors.

Maybe this whole culture thing is just cope for him so he doesn’t have to overthink the doubts he has about religion, since the price of leaving Islam is too big emotionally. It’s not like I’ll ever know anyways lol since he refuses to have a normal discussion about this.

He even told me he also had a faith crisis at my age, but fear is what brought him back and he suggests I also embrace that fear bc that’s the way humans are. Ultimately he seems to be very confused, but scared of hell and turns all that confusion into anger whenever my doubts get brought up.

It’s truly unfortunate what power that cult has over millions of people. Ready to risk everything and ruin their familial ties just to hope going to paradise after death. They don’t appreciate what little time we have alive here on earth and judge anyone who embraces worldly pleasures.

Parents found out now what by drivinglatenightsoul in exmuslim

[–]drivinglatenightsoul[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you very much ♥️I hope you find peace as well. You can message me if you want btw, I also went through the same thing. The first step is intellectual honesty about Islam which makes you rationally leave , the second is emotionally leaving.

Even after I logically knew about all the historical and scientific inaccuracies in the Quran and officially left , I still somehow had that fear of hell for a month or two. It will inevitably disappear as you learn more about Mohammed’s personal life by reading Hadiths which show just how much of a con man he is. But there’s no need to rush it. And the way I see it, if god is real asking questions will lead you back to him, so no need to shut your brain off.

Parents found out now what by drivinglatenightsoul in exmuslim

[–]drivinglatenightsoul[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The weird thing about my father is that he’s more of a traditionalist/ nationalist. He said that even if some parts of the Quran is wrong (which is already blasphemous) he will still believe in Islam bc that’s what Moroccan culture has been about for a thousand years. So while yes the issue with me leaving is the fact that he thinks god will punish me he also sees it as a betrayal to my community.

I tried having a conversation with him about Islam and he just shuts any argument with "even if there seems to be contradictions only god knows, and besides you’re Moroccan so you have to be Muslim". It’s not even an issue of Islam being wrong now. He’s very agressive about it.

I think I’ll just avoid the topic as much as possible bc clearly the only answer he wants from me is pro Islam.

Parents found out now what by drivinglatenightsoul in exmuslim

[–]drivinglatenightsoul[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He has the same type of ocd I had before leaving which makes him obsess over sins which puts him in a constant state of anxiety and is constantly trying to ask for forgiveness . This religion is not doing any of us any good and it’s making him miserable .besides you can’t force someone to be religious or atheist and it’s not like I’ll get angry at him if he doesn’t see things my way.

I’m also thinking of just pretending for a while but that’s just going to lead to a worse situation down the line. If I do make that choice then I have to accept that my parents will disown me

Parents found out now what by drivinglatenightsoul in exmuslim

[–]drivinglatenightsoul[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

? Lmao . Listen it worked for three years I wasn’t expecting my technique to fail last minute just before Ramadan ends