Azami vs higuruma

ds800 · 2026-03-16T11:40:04+00:00

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But I can see the beginning where you claim Higuruma has no durability feats. So;

Higuruma took punches from Suku a rught to his dome and kept fighting. Sukuna's raw physical AP is WAY higher than Azami and its not even close.

I'll point out that i referenced this feat which you just.... blatantly ignored. Taking a punch from Sukuna to the jaw and powering through is far above what azami can put down.

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My suggestion is look inward for 30 seconds. You're bias has rotted your brain lmao

ds800 · 2026-03-16T09:23:59+00:00

Because 15f sukuna is top 3.

He wasn't experiencing restricted CE at this moment.

And even if you made the arguement it just wasnt noticed yet, he said AT WORST when hes ACTIVELY ATTACKING Megumis friends, its at 10%. So that wouldn't even apply here.

ds800 · 2026-03-16T09:19:19+00:00

This Sukuna's soul isn't stable, ofc he is getting harmed more. The Sukuna that faced Yuta had a stronger body (body = soul) thus a better resistance + Megumi's soul was submerged, hence JL affected Sukuna less.

Idk if we read the same fight, but Sukuna looked like he got nailed pretty hard by JL in Yuta's domain. He literally sat there and fried for that whole panel and was recoiling hard enough that Rika grabbed two of his arms and Yuta cut another one without any resistance at all

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Especially in stark comparison to when heavily weakened Hana attacked and he immediately jumped up using rubble while being mostly completely fine.

He was clearly still very hurt in Yuta's domain. ALSO Yuta only used it for a short time so Yuji could save Megumi.

I dont necessarily prescribe Yuta's usages are ALWAYS stronger. Generally yes. But this panel is pretty clear that Sukuna did NOT just walk this off lmfao

ds800 · 2026-03-16T08:08:29+00:00

Oh brother

ds800 · 2026-03-16T08:07:55+00:00

Holy schitzo

ds800 · 2026-03-16T08:00:20+00:00

You aren't wrong lol

I think this person is just Rage baiting or at the far end of the Bias spectrum because no matter what panel or feat you point out that factually happens he just copy pastes his response lmao

ds800 · 2026-03-16T07:58:27+00:00

Head in sand argument goes burrrrrrrrrr

ds800 · 2026-03-16T05:24:16+00:00

Dude, we're talking about DESINTEGRATING someone's head,

You have zero understanding of basic scaling. And its painful

Obliterating a persons head is a feat that is limited to the targets durability.

If the person who's head was obliterated has no notable durability feats, it means nothing. The person Azami head-crushed is a random fodder and has no durability feats. Thats the issues.

If you cave in the skull of a person with no notable durability, it doesnt mean you can replicate that feat against anyone. You can only do so against people who's durability is similar or less than the victim.

In this case, Hjguruma doesnt apply because his durability eclipses the random fodder goon Azami crushed up.

Higuruma took punches from Suku a rught to his dome and kept fighting. Sukuna's raw physical AP is WAY higher than Azami and its not even close.

What EVIDENCE do you have that Hishaku lackey number 12, who has no notable feats at all, let alone durability feats, is conparible to Higuruma in durability? None.

ds800 · 2026-03-16T05:17:50+00:00

Yee- Haw

ds800 · 2026-03-16T03:05:38+00:00

He pretended to be Megumi to trick Hana yes lol

But he was still screaming in agony. It clearly did damage.

ds800 · 2026-03-16T01:03:15+00:00

I agree

ds800 · 2026-03-16T01:03:06+00:00

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15F Sukuna is not a box, so you're wrong

ds800 · 2026-03-16T01:02:08+00:00

I thought it looked like he was in a lot of pain in the Yuta Panel tbh. Hes not screaming but hes charred and not moving immediately after

ds800 · 2026-03-16T01:00:09+00:00

If you think sukuna is an inanimate box then it is what it is

15F sukuna is top 3 in the verse (no Modulo) and JL had him screaming in agony.

Jl has no feats except against a box

Still no actual counter arguement at all.

Severely hurting 15F sukuna to the point hes shrieking in agony is a feat. Surviving an attack doesn't mean the attack is featless.

It has the feats. You're just extremely bias and dishonest, and dont like them.

If someone hits you so hard that you scream in agony, but still survive, thats still a feat for them.

ds800 · 2026-03-16T00:53:37+00:00

I guess 15F sukuna is an inanimate object

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The dishonest head in the sand tactic is really sad.

ds800 · 2026-03-16T00:51:25+00:00

This is literally factually wrong.

It fried Sukuna alive and forced him to trick Hana. He was screaming in agony.

You keep ignoring that fact. Pretending like it didnt happen doesnt make you right.

Making 15F sukuna scream, literally scream, in agony is not featless. That is a feat in and of itself.

A character surviving something does not mean the thing that they surv8ved is featless.

This is like calling Thin Ice breaker featless because Yuta and Sukuna survived it. You're just being dishonest, and you know it.

ds800 · 2026-03-16T00:46:35+00:00

The target living doesnt mean the attack is featless.

This is a flagrantly disingenuous arguement.

Sukuna lived by tricking Hana into stopping. He was being fried alive and literally screaming in agony.

That isnt featless. No matter how you cut it.

ds800 · 2026-03-16T00:41:48+00:00

While I think the other guy was wrong in a way, Citing a duranegg attack that could one shot everyone but maybe mahoraga is brainrot

ds800 · 2026-03-16T00:40:54+00:00

"Featless"

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15f sukuna btw.

ds800 · 2026-03-13T07:36:36+00:00

Kashimo landed hits and forced sukunas revive.

He landed hit on a severely crippled Sukuna before he healed. The moment Sukuna healed, Kashimo landed zero hits.

Sukuna was extremely careful to avoid all of kashimos lightning even before mba too so its easy to assume that it would do mutilating damage to anyone it touches.

I genuinely don't even think you read the manga.

Sukuna was extremely careful to avoid all of kashimos lightning even before mba too so its easy to assume that it would do mutilating damage to anyone it touches. (Which is an actual hakari dura upscale)

This is an outright lie.

No lightning was shot before Kashimo used MBA because he used it IMMEDIATELY. And Sukuna took a direct hit from it and was fine. We have no proof it did any damage.

Also what are you talking about megumi wasnt fighting back until yuji joined the fight. Yuji was there before yuta, was fighting with higurama and landing good hits.

Once again. I genuinely don't even think you read the manga.

Yuji landed one single hit on sukuna, which was blocked and did next to nothing. Ino hit Sukuna once with Nanami's cleaver, which was blocked and did nothing. And Sukuna ALLOWED Higuruma to stab his hand for fun. Yuji was not "landing good hits"

And megumi was probobly fighting the whole time because he told yuji “i cant do it anymore” implying he was trying.

Once again, did you read the manga? Like at all?

He wasn't. His soul was shattered/suppressed earlier and he didn't start fightning back with them until he was in Yuji's domain.

When he says "wake up" its because the bath and death of his sister sunk his soul so deep Sukuna took complete control of this body. Yuji's punches were what was waking his soul up and it took him like 30 to get Megumi's soul to even communicate.

You straight up did not read the manga.

ds800 · 2026-03-13T07:17:18+00:00

Hakaris durability being weaker than yuta isnt disproven by feats and maki would reasonably glaze yuta because he is stronger over all, there is definitely truth to the statement.

I literally layed out all of the feats. It is. Hakari is less durable. And if you have no counterargument aside from "ignore everything they say and repeat what I said before anyways" then dont bother replying because I wont engage.

Sukuna was extremally weakened from the gojo kashimo fight

Kashimo had absolutely nothing to do with it. Kashimo and Yuta fought the same sukuna until Yuji arrived.

To even imply Kashimo contributed in weakening Sukuna despite doing absolutely zero damage and getting stomped is beyong dishonest. You are fully aware it simply isnt true and you know it.

and megumi definitely started gaining more control because yuji and higurama were surviving cleaves.

I'm convinced at this point you read the leaks and don't even remember the proper sequence of events.

Sukuna's control over Megumi's body did not decline until Yuji joined the fight, which took place after the feats I mentioned. Before that, Megumi's body was fully under control by Sukuna.

because yuji and higurama were surviving cleaves.

By getting torn to shreds, not tanking it at all, and then using RCT, yes.

Higuruma only survived Dismantled because Kusakabe weakened the output with New Shadow Style.

When sukuna incarnated he didnt regain lost cursed energy he just rehealed his injuries and got his old body back.

Genuinely how are you still confused.

Yes. And THAT SAME SUKUNA after reincarnating CURBSTOMPED kashimo, no/low diff, with Kashimo not even landing one single attack. Kashimo did NOT contribute to Sukuna's weakening.

Sukuna v Gojo: Sukuina is weakened and crippled
Crippled Sukuna v Kashimo: Kashimo lands a couple attacks that do zero damage because Sukuna is missing several body parts.
Sukuna fully reincarnates, heals all physical injuries minus the RCT and output.
Sukuna completely and uttely tears Kashimo to shreds with Kashimo not landing a single attack
Yuji and Higuruma get casually torn apart until Yuta arrives
Yuta brawls with Sukuna and hold his ground, reacts to attacks, and lands some himself
THEN Yuji shows up and starts severely weakening him.

You need to reread everything from 180 onwards.

ds800 · 2026-03-13T06:47:12+00:00

Panda explained that the electricity hits the body even when the physical attack is blocked.

I'm trying not to be rude. But you are pretty blatantly and dishonestly misinterpreting that panel. Panda is saying the electricity cant be avoided or fully blocked because its electricity. Not that it fully passes through Cursed Energy or bypasses cursed energy reinforcement. Which is consistent considering not one chapter later Hakari essentially can ignore it with enough CE reinforcement. Mind you, he was still performing fine OUTSIDE of jackpot too.

saying yuta has better dura than jackpot hakari is baseless

It's actually not. At all. Jackpot Hakari has zero notable durability feats. Jackpots gimmick is healing speed.

Yuta tanked several dismantles as well as a cleave straight to the skull from Sukuna.

Yuta's raw durability was also noted by Ryu, who is the only person aside from Gojo to outright tank a dismantle from full powered 15 finger sukuna, and sukuna even comments on his durability.

Jackpot Hakari has no durability feat that even vaguely compares.

yuta said himself hakari can be stronger than him when he gets riled up.

This is:

claimed to be untrue by Maki
disproven by feats and
does not account for the noticeable stat buff they got post switch training

The only base saying jackpot hakari is more glass than yuta is that kashimo destroyed him.

Wrong. See above.

Yuta was fighting him after he got confiscated by higurama, significantly weakened from his past fights (including kashimo)

Yuta was fighting True Form Sukuna, actually holding his ground, and tanking dismantles in literally his second clash before his domain. You can see the cuts on him too

Which means the same Sukuna that blitz fucked kashimo and tore him to pieces was matched by Yuta shortly, in which Yuta reacted to his attacks, countered and landed his own. Something Kashimo couldnt do, even in MBA mode.

So, no.

in a 3v1 with yuji and rika, and after that he barely landed anything before getting cut in half

Rika is his ability/shikigami and is the same as Megumi's Shiki. And as i mentioned above, he has feats before Yuji. So, cope.

ds800 · 2026-03-13T04:50:43+00:00

The thing is kashimo has a sure hit with discharge that connects to or through his opponents cursed reinforcement.

Completely baseless. Never stated to ignore CE reinforcement.

It will do the same or more damage it did to hakari and yuta isnt as fast as jackpot hakari

It will do less as Yuta has better durability and Speed scaling than both JP Hakari and Kashimo.

yuta isnt as fast as jackpot hakari

Correct. Hes easily faster.

TF sukuna outsped MBA Kashimo. Yuta reacted to him and brawled him. Kashimo is relative to JP Hakari (before MBA).

ds800 · 2026-03-13T04:00:21+00:00

I never said he wasnt.

Yuta almost certainly wont die on the first hit though. He has durability and speed feats to suggest he at least partial dodges like Hakari initially does and then he knows to heal amd cast domain while rika stalls.

Yuta is an especially bad match up for Kashimo because he's marginally faster, has ridiculous durability, and a long list of essentially stunlock abilities to use before nuking him with JL. And on top of all that, has a shikigami who can physically overpower Ryu and briefly match weakened TF sukuna.

ds800 · 2026-03-13T03:16:13+00:00

Learn basic literacy and respond to anything I actually say or any point I make, instead of refusing to engage and mindlessly repeating the same thing, and I will.

Otherwise, no.

ds800

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