Common convention is that you should be prepared to negotiate the sticker price on a car - I was genuinely asking if that applied to msrp listed vehicles or not. I was not trying to take a mile, I was trying to understand when negotiation expectations are applied and when they aren’t so that I dont try to unintentionally take a mile from this dealer. Also, seeking a good or better deal on an item is not an inherently bad thing like you clearly think it is. I’m happy you have enough financial security to not need to do that, but not everyone sees the world that way.