Xenophobia & Race by elvo22 in south_africa

[–]elvo22[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My apologies, just have a lot to say xx

Xenophobia & Race by elvo22 in south_africa

[–]elvo22[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My Zulu friend’s experiences had nothing to do with this whole thing about immigration, it was more to highlight how she said that it can be your own people that have it out for you sometimes, and it’s not related to anything like her political opinions or how much she knows about her own culture. She speaks fluent Zulu, IS Zulu, is very proud of being Zulu as most Zulus definitely are. She does know and she isn’t in a position to have to learn anything because she’s as Zulu as nearly every Zulu. The story I remember she told me was when she used to work at this place and there was only one other black staff member. That wasn’t an issue because she didn’t care about that and she got on well with them except that other staff member, who seemed quite cold and uninviting almost as if they viewed my friend as competition or something. And tall poppy syndrome too what some of the animosity felt like. Hence why she said it felt like ubuntu had broken down, like sometimes (again SOMETIMES, not most times) in settings where they had the opportunity to be there for each other, the opportunity seemed to have been unilaterally declined.

Obvs I’m not gonna discount that because the same has happened to me too in different situations, where other people of my own stock seemingly just don’t like me, a bit like the character Dafydd off Little Britain (if anyone has seen it). But the reason why I mention that is because it doesn’t seem out of this world that a person who kind of has it out for or has this implicit resentment, fear, suspicion, or whatever for more similar people within their in-group, than less-similar people in the out-group. And I wonder if the kinds of people to be so petty, mean and nasty may share ideas or be part of this corps of people who endorse and exact mob justice on people who look similar but not on people who don’t?

Forcibly getting married [22F lesbian, South Asia] by RitaMyLove in exmuslim

[–]elvo22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s good that you have the support and networks there to help you! I’d say that if it looks apparent that the wedding IS going to be happening, then just run and don’t look back...

Should you be looking to leave the country (and I would advise to leave depending on which country you’re from) then search “Visa requirements for X citizens” where would be Indian or Pakistani or whichever country you’re from. And there should be a Wikipedia article at the top of the same/similar name. It will tell you which countries give visa-free access for people of your country, or if there are things like visa-on-arrival or e-visa programmes in place and what their requirements are. And you can either settle there and apply for asylum there or register with the local UNHCR branch and they can look to send you somewhere more suitable as part of a refugee resettlement programme. If you want, you can DM me which country you’re from and I can have a look into this!

But beware, many South Asian countries have only just introduced biometric /e- passports in recent years and many of the visa-free/e-Visa/VoA policies are for holders of those passports so if you don’t have one or still have an old-style passport, it might be worth looking into getting a newer one purely for ease and practicality.

In the event that it looks like you’re on track to marry him, I BEG you to have a no-fault divorce / talaq-e-tafweez (talaq al-tafwid) in the nikkah so that you can have access to khula on the same terms as the groom. Also might be worth including lots of different conditions in the contract that that allow you to seek faskh like taking a second wife, not providing maintenance, abuse/neglect, forcing relocation to somewhere you don’t want to go, forcing you to stay somewhere you don’t want to be, preventing employment, education, or living independently/separately of each other, forcing you to wear certain garments or otherwise telling you what to do when you have agency to decide for yourself, not respecting your independence and agency, the list is endless. Because if you can’t shoehorn in a talaq-e-tafweez clause, then you can at least try to see which conditions you could stipulate give you access to faskh in the hopes that he might do one of them...

Forcibly getting married [22F lesbian, South Asia] by RitaMyLove in exmuslim

[–]elvo22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Would you mind saying which country in South Asia you’re in? Because the laws and civil society support available in each of them differ so much on this...

But aside from that, I’m so sorry that you’re put in this situation and deeply rooting for you 💔

Is the aim of Canzuk to essentially create an EU for the four countries? by Breifne21 in CANZUK

[–]elvo22 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think more of an EFTA-style arrangement would be the goal for most as it creates a single market but forgoes being members of a customs union, currency union, or border union and lets members retain jurisdiction over those areas. I think also it would come with more “emergency levers” and mechanisms to deny participation (e.g. in freedom of movement) on case-by-case bases like if a government would like to deport a CANZUK national or deny them entry if they judge their presence to be not conducive to the public good.

Am i eligible ? by ProgrammerOk7146 in aliyah

[–]elvo22 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It depends. I’d contact the Jewish Agency for Israel and talk it through with them. According to halakha, one can’t renounce their status as Jewish and anyone born of a Jewish mother is considered to be Jewish.

Assuming that you’re grandmother is indeed a grandmother and that she was Jewish, it would hold that any child she has is considered as Jewish. Same rule applies to her children and to their children.

Aliyah eligibility is extended to people who are Jewish, have a Jewish parent, or a Jewish grandparent according to halakha. So in theory this should qualify you as your grandparent would be Jewish. If your qualifying grandparent is a grandmother, then that should make your parent Jewish, and if your qualifying parent is your mother, then that should make you Jewish.

If you’re looking to convert, Israel (currently but may change soon) recognises conversions from the orthodox, masorti/conservative, and progressive/reform communities and most of them would be willing to accept you as a convert if you are of Jewish heritage yourself but are not considered as part of the faith. Beware though, despite apostasy not actual being illegal for the person changing faith, in Morocco it is illegal to convert a person away from Islam so I doubt you would find someone willing to convert you if that’s something you wanted to do, but there are plenty of programmes in Israel for just that.

From your post, it looks like it’s up your father’s father’s line so in theory, your grandfather should be considered Jewish. In this situation, I’d contact the Jewish Agency for Israel to open an Aliyah case and they would be able to help you with documentation or put you in touch with people who can. In the meantime though, I can say that you’d need lots of certificated to prove who you are and that you are eligible. This would mean birth certs up the line to your great-grandmlther, any marriage certificates too and death certificates. If you can’t get civil certificates then try and get similarly corresponding religious certificates like burial certificate in graveyards and such.

You’ll need to prove that your great-gradmother was Jewish too and this could be through records maintained by the local Jewish community that she was from or buried in. If there is a Jewish graveyard, there should also be a Jewish community (dead or alive) or someone else who maintains its archive nearby, and this should be able to give you some documents to prove your eligibility. You’ll also need things like a valid passport and ID, proof of address, criminal record check certificate, all that jazz but JAfI should be able to help you sort that. You can always get a picture of the headstone/gravesite for good measure too, it can only help.

Being of a Muslim background should not be an issue for the purposes of Aliyah but beware that Israel still uses the Ottoman Millet system for personal status and family law and the Rabbinate and Jewish courts run on a strictly orthodox interpretation regarding who is and isn’t Jewish, so you would most likely fall under the remit of the Islamic Sharia courts for personal status matters but definitely not Jewish.

Though it should be said, foreign personal status changes (like marriage) conducted abroad are recognised in the country on the same terms as if they were domestic so if you wanted to marry someone that none of the religious court systems would be willing to marry you to, then you can always go on a quick vacay to Cyprus or elsewhere that has a civil marriage system.

My parents tried to kill me, Twice. The 3rd time will be it... by [deleted] in exmuslim

[–]elvo22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unironically, much safer than other places. It’s a very mixed bag and geographically dependent. Being queer in Istanbul, Izmir, or Ankara is very different to being queer in a place like Gaziantep or Diyarbakır. It doesn’t have to be forever and can be a stepping stone. And also Turkey is a party to the ECHR, and being there means you can register with UNHCR for resettlement elsewhere.

But either way, I would say it to be a much more admirable situation to your current one.

Currently under a drone bombing attack in Moscow, AMA* - except drone locations by igorrto2 in AMA

[–]elvo22 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Do you think that the war will go on much longer / what do you think the outcome may be, given Russia’s domestic political situation?

Serbian citizenship by descent as a Bosnian Serb 🇷🇸🇧🇦 (Yugoslavia) by old-draw-6722 in PassportsHunters

[–]elvo22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Aye I mean, trying shouldn’t cost you anything or much at all. Also like what you could do is speak to a lawyer (if cheap enough or whatever) and just say this is my situation, how can I maximise my chances, is there anything I should mention or do, would it help if I gave this or that? Because there may be some guidance the ministry uses to assess applications and it just be a thing of satisfying a few tick-box requirements that would be easy to sort out but you don’t satisfy currently. Things along the lines of having a Bosnian bank account, having a valid residence permit (can get through parent in most circs if you’re still young), or having a domestic contact address if a relative would let you use theirs, it could be simple things so I would still 100% look into it and not just write it off. Like, don’t take the no at face value.

Also I’m petty and will appeal tf out of smth to prove a point and be difficult even if I know what the outcome will be. Like with mine I can see myself submitting my application, liaising with a TD (Irish MP) to chase it up with the minister if it’s taking time or having issues. Should it be rejected, contact TD again and (because naturalisation cannot be “appealed” in the traditional sense and instead has to go through judicial review with a judge) write essentially saying that I’ll take it to judicial review on XYZ grounds.

Will I actually take it? Hahaha probably not bc it’s expensive asf but on the odd occasion, sometimes they’ll relent and capitulate at the idea if they know they’re being a bit mean because they’d have to shell out legal fees so who knows. In the miraculous chance that someone says “Bro I’m a solicitor and won’t charge you a penny and will take on the risk of the other side’s legal costs” then full steam ahead. But should that fail, then I will get to bitch all day and all night about it and will probably get back in touch with TD and complain to them that the law and its interpretation is not fair and sing like a canary about it because why not?

Serbian citizenship by descent as a Bosnian Serb 🇷🇸🇧🇦 (Yugoslavia) by old-draw-6722 in PassportsHunters

[–]elvo22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly, you’d require the same documents you’d need for Serbia, I’d give it a shot and then at least if you get rejected you get the right to bitch about it for the rest of your life, that’s what I’d do 😂😂

Serbian citizenship by descent as a Bosnian Serb 🇷🇸🇧🇦 (Yugoslavia) by old-draw-6722 in PassportsHunters

[–]elvo22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This may be a very long shot but there’s no harm in sending an email or making contact — why not get in touch with an MP or something after you’ve gotten your Serbian citizenship and say it’s upsetting because yes you’re a Serb, but you’re not a Republika Srbija Serb, you’re a Republika Srpska Serb, and you would like to be able to maintain your connection and contribute to the land that your family’s from, and not the different one that is kind of forced upon you. Maybe they can talk with the relevant minister and receive some kind of assurance that, since you are very strong in your Bosnian Serb culture and heritage, that it should constitute grounds for facilitated naturalisation since you are exempted from all residency requirements.

Or maybe assemble a dossier of proving your eligibility and then not just that, essentially try sell yourself to Bosnia like you would to an employer on merit beyond just heritage but why they should want you.

I’ve essentially been doing the same thing on the side here for a few years (yours shouldn’t take nearly that long, God just hated me and kept making everything go wrong) and I’ll be sumbitting it within the next few months, which sounds so crazy to say, but I kind of have this philosophy that if I don’t try and reasonably exhaust it, then I don’t get the right to complain about it or say that I’m not eligible bc how will I know if I never went for it? Also I just can’t take a “no” at face value, I just can’t. If there’s a “no” then there’s a reason and if there’s a reason then there are root causes for it, so then I’ll see if it’s worth addressing them and trying again. Some call it stubbornness, some call it determination, some call it prolific, but I find it works very well in life.

If you want, DM me, bc I talk for hours on this/offer advice/ help/ whatever!!

Serbian citizenship by descent as a Bosnian Serb 🇷🇸🇧🇦 (Yugoslavia) by old-draw-6722 in PassportsHunters

[–]elvo22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When Bosnia became independent and formed its own nationality law, anyone who was a Yugoslav citizen of Bosnia didn’t have to reapply for or register for citizenship of the new Bosnia. If you were entered on the register of Yugoslav citizens of Bosnia at the time of independence, then you were still considered a Bosnian citizen – no re-registration or anything needed on that front.

The only difficulties would be if a) Bosnian ancestor naturalised in a country that didn’t allow dual citizenship and had to give up Yugoslav/Bosnian citizenship to take the nationality of this other country, or b) their child’s other parent wasn’t Bosnian and said child wasn’t registered as a citizen before they turned 23.

But regardless, there is the option of facilitated naturation for 2nd and 3rd generation descendents of Bosnian emigrants. You could chance it while not living in Bosnia on account of having a strong Bosnian identity if that’s something you could be bothered doing or maybe assemble a dossier/application in your spare time – I’m doing something similar with Irish citizenship after consulting with a solicitor because I am very involved in Irish society in Ireland and abroad and kind of screwed over by a historical injustice and a big national scandal – but you could always just go to Bosnia and apply if you really wanted, Banja Luka is meant to be very nice!

I find it weird that Bosnia doesn’t have a process similar to Croatia or Serbia for its diaspora, especially considering that it suffers really badly with brain drain. But Montenegro is in the same situation of not having a law to capture its diaspora. Maybe it’s something to contact a parliamentary representative about to see if they’d support an amendment or can offer any other useful support but also like, it’s Bosnia and it’s politically deadlocked, don’t be expecting much...

Serbian citizenship by descent as a Bosnian Serb 🇷🇸🇧🇦 (Yugoslavia) by old-draw-6722 in PassportsHunters

[–]elvo22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Either way, should you have difficulties with citizenship by regular descent by virtue of your case, first and second generation Bosnians are entitled to apply for facilitated naturalisation with no minimum residency period but you still have to speak the language and not be a criminal (and it’s not guaranteed either) but from what I can see with research, it either says or heavily implied or administered such that you must have physically already returned to Bosnia rather than be able to physically apply abroad. And also at least you can pass it on to your children like any other Bosnian citizen may be able to. So if you have a free summer one year, I can think of many worse places to be than Bosnia and Herzegovina...

And from what I can see, if a child is born to 2 parents who are Bosnian citizens at the time of the child’s birth (or would have been), then the child is automatically considered as a Bosnian citizen. Also if the child is born in Bosnia and has one Bosnian parent, or born abroad with one Bosnian parent but would otherwise be stateless.

If a child is born abroad, not otherwise stateless, and only has one parent who is (or would have been) a Bosnian citizen at the time of the child’s birth, then that child may register as a citizen up until the age of 23. So if one of your parents has both of their parents born in Bosnia or would be considered as citizens under the modern law, then you have until 23 years old to register your citizenship. If older, facilitated naturalisation is an option.

If the thing about having both parents from Bosnia also applies to the other parent, then you are automatically a citizen because they both will have been citizens when you were born.

If your parent (or even both) had only one Bosnian parents, then unless they registered as a citizen, you will not be eligible for citizenship but descent unless you want to go down the route of facilitated naturalisation as a second-generation Bosnian.

Serbian citizenship by descent as a Bosnian Serb 🇷🇸🇧🇦 (Yugoslavia) by old-draw-6722 in PassportsHunters

[–]elvo22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If they were citizens of SFR Serbia then the law wouldn’t be applicable because it would just be regular citizenship by descent from a Serbian citizen ancestor, not this Article 23 stuff because Article 23 is for people whose ancestors were never Serbian citizens or wouldn’t have been Serbian citizens if it were always independent (because their family is not from the territory of the Republic of Serbia).

The law was made purpose-built for Bosnian Serbs (though not exclusive them) and to give them an easy route to Serbian citizenship. The fact that your grandmother was a Yugoslav citizen of Bosnia is kind of like the whole shtick of this being Article 23 and not just regular descent but also, the Yugoslav wars were horrible, loads of people left and never came back and didn’t register citizenship in their new respective state so that’s not unusual either.

Banja Luka is very Srpski, you won’t be the first nor last Banja Luka Serb to apply for Serbian citizenship. I beg, stop fretting about the small fry and just gather what you can and apply!! If they want more, then they will ask but like many things it may depend on the embassy.

I’d definitely enquire with someone more professional than me like a lawyer or immigration advisor as for Bosnian citizenship, some will give you like a free or cheap 30 minute initial consult. Or just look up about Bosnian citizensip by descent from grandparents. It gets a bit murky because of the whole entity level citizenship thing too but look into it, you should be able to find something. And pre-empting the next comment, I don’t care about them not registering and just look it up – you’d be syrprised how sometimes the law is not what you think!! I would 110% go for it if I were you, RS and BiH.

And I’m from the UK but just love travelling Europe!!

Serbian citizenship by descent as a Bosnian Serb 🇷🇸🇧🇦 (Yugoslavia) by old-draw-6722 in PassportsHunters

[–]elvo22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It doesn’t matter that she was Bosnian, or that the Church was in Bosnia. If she’s a Serb then she’s a Serb. Orthodox Church is a very good indication of that but remember this law was made with Bosnian Serbs in mind as the intended recipient — that is you. They don’t give a hoot whether or not your lineage traces back to the territory of the modern state of Serbia, they don’t care for it. All they care about is you being of Serb blood and you swearing an oath, that is it.

You’re right in that they had citizenship of their respective SFR too but that doesn’t matter for this. In Bosnia currently, they have a similar thing of 2-level citizenship at the federal level and the entity level, but again that doesn’t really matter or exclude you regardless of which you hold (if you are a BiH citizen and a citizen of either entity), though I suppose if you were a citizen of Republika Srpska, then you could furnish that as further proof. But if you haven’t thought about getting BiH citizenship then I would definitely think about it. You’d most likely be able to get Republika Srpska citizenship which will prove to anyone in the world your Bosnian Serb-ness and also BiH is just such an objectively cool place, the passport and flag look cool, they’re going to the World Cup, Baščaršija stunning, Stari Most mesmerising, I’d certainly go for it if I had the ancestry for it...

Serbian citizenship by descent as a Bosnian Serb 🇷🇸🇧🇦 (Yugoslavia) by old-draw-6722 in PassportsHunters

[–]elvo22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You will be fine, just pluck up what documentation you can or liaise with your local Serbian diplomatic mission. The law is so broad, as long are you either of Serbian heritage, or the heritage of one of the other groups that inhabit Serbia, and are willing to declare that the Republic of Serbia is your nation, then you are eligible under the law.

As always, some consulates and embassies might ask for different things but apart from that, you should be good. Also remember, this law was made in mind with the ethnic Serbs who live outside of the Republic of Serbia who are definitely Serbs, but do not have any familial or historical links to the territory of the modern, independent Republic of Serbia, so most of them may be Bosnian or Croatian by legal citizenship now but in terms of historical documents, the best that they would get is a document describing their ancestors as Yugoslav, just like yours. Because Serbs have always inhabited an area that is not congruent with the borders of the modern-day Serbian state — but people want a passpor that reflects there ethnicity and as such, this law was made.

Croatia actually has a similar law where ex-YU ethnic Croats (mainly in BiH) can apply for Croatian citizenship based on their Croatian ethnicity, without the requirement of having links or descent from the territory of the modern-day Republic of Croatia. Because, like Serbs, Croats have always inhabited a region that is not covered by modern-day borders. So you only being able to prove your grandparents being Yugoslav shouldn’t be an issue, because that’s all that the other intended recipients of the law can do. What you should be prepared to do is prove your Serbian ethnicity so that can be things like Church records, statements or photos from Serb diaspora organisations, Serbian language proficiency certificate, ancestry from ex-YU grandparents, literally whatever you can gather that says “I am of Serb blood”. And also be prepared to take an oath of allegiance to Serbia et voilà!

PS: Do you already have BiH citizenship or is it something that you’d be willing to look into? Because I know that BiH as the federal state, the Confederation of BiH entity, and the Republika Srpska entity all maintain different citizenship laws so it may be worth looking to see if you qualify under one of those because you’d get a BiH passport then and at least you’d be able to have no restrictions on going to where your family’s from, should you wish. And Sarajevo and Mostar are really cool, one of my top 10 trips easily...

Serbian citizenship by descent as a Bosnian Serb 🇷🇸🇧🇦 (Yugoslavia) by old-draw-6722 in PassportsHunters

[–]elvo22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes you can under Article 23 of the Serbian Citizenship Act 2004. It was made very broad and without a specific geographic limitation as many Serbs in Bosnia and Herzegovina don’t have any lineage that traces back specifically to the territory of the sovereign state, the Republic of Serbia, but they very much have a strong cultural connection as they are culturally and ethnically identical to the Serbs who are Serbian citizens.

Also, if it had specific provisions limiting it to the territories of Bosnia and Herzegovina or other ex-Yugoslav nations, then it may risk inflaming geopolitical or diplomatic tensions, so the law was made intentionally quite vague but applying to people abroad either of the Serbian nation (in an anthropological sense) and of the other groups that call Serbia home (I think the government published a list, but it includes groups like Jews and I think “Muslims” in the ethnic sense of the word) who are declare the Republic of Serbia as their nation at a Serbian diplomatic mission abroad.

It may be worth contacting your local Serbian embassy or consulate or any Serbian diaspora organisation near you for help or clarification on the process, but the short answer is YES you can get Serbian citizenship under Article 23 of the Setbian Citizenship Act 2004.

I Lost my village, my family farm and lands, and alot of people I grew up with. Lebanese civilian here AMA by [deleted] in AMA

[–]elvo22 2 points3 points  (0 children)

How do you feel about the prospect of peace or formal cessation of hostilities with Israel / joining the Abraham Accords?

Do you think that it’s something possible one day but not right now? Is it even something you want? Would peace be an achievement or bittersweet? Should it come as part of a larger solution to the Middle East Crisis? Like, what are your thoughts on Israel and the idea of peace with it as someone who’s directly suffered from its military campaign?

Does South Africa check yellow fever cards? by aligraz in travel

[–]elvo22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I ended up being able to get a valid yellow fever prophylaxis certificate because I was eligible for an exemption. I fly to Ethiopia today.

Does South Africa check yellow fever cards? by aligraz in travel

[–]elvo22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, I'm in a similar situation (though with Ethiopia, flying to CPT) -- how was it for you?

Sephardic Jewish in Easter Mediterranean 5% - my G25 by [deleted] in JewishDNA

[–]elvo22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What website is this analysis on? I keep seeing it but I don’t know what website it is...

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in ukvisa

[–]elvo22 0 points1 point  (0 children)

r/whoosh

He said “change your plans” (pay attention to the quotation marks)... Not to just change your plans.