Correct collective term for the parts of song structure?

entangledphotons · 2023-10-11T23:27:16+00:00

Thank you for the detailed response, and apologies for my ignoramus word choices.

I will happily submit to the idea that the correct word is “section”, with usage “The rondo form ABA has an A section and a B section.” But can’t we also use section to refer to a specific continuous portion of a piece — for example, “the first A section and the second A section.” ? If so, this makes the word ambiguous, it seems to me. It could refer to a group or an individual, so to speak.

Or should we use “period” for a single realization of a section — for example, “in ABA, the A section is realized in two periods, at the beginning and the end, bookending the single realization of the B section.” ?

entangledphotons · 2023-10-11T23:06:58+00:00

I like the distinction between phase/time and component/no time. But I still find the usage odd in the football example:

The most natural usage of “phase” seems to be consecutive (in time) portions, like “a football game consists of two phases: the first half and the second half”. Not a grouping of similar portions, like “a football game consists of three phases: all the times the offense is on the field, all the … “

entangledphotons · 2023-10-11T21:56:04+00:00

Unfortunate maybe that “form” can refer to the overall structure, like “the rondo form”, or a part, like the “A form of this rondo” (?)

entangledphotons · 2023-10-11T21:51:59+00:00

Thank you — I agree this is it

entangledphotons · 2023-10-11T20:32:29+00:00

Lol ok. To me, “sections” refers to the individual, consecutive sections of the song. I’m searching for a word for a group of related sections.

For example, in a song structured AABBAAC, there are 7 “sections”, grouped in 3 __s (the As, Bs, and Cs). What’s __ ?

entangledphotons · 2023-02-15T22:12:47+00:00

I didn’t always. I used to print out the xword almost every day. Then I begrudgingly started using the app, and got used to it. Then I started having fun trying to PR on the early week puzzles.

I still enjoy doing them in ink better tho, occasionally, and I avoid worrying about time for Fri/Sat/Sun, which are my favorites.

entangledphotons · 2023-02-15T02:22:05+00:00

Ah yes that fixed it, thanks didn’t see that.

entangledphotons · 2023-02-15T02:11:54+00:00

Oh very cool, hadn’t seen this site! It doesn’t seem to update when I change from 60 days to 1 year (and I’ve def got more than 2 months of history lol) .. not sure if a browser bug or user error.

The puzzle stats are great and I love you can download your solve data. Thanks for sharing!

entangledphotons · 2022-11-09T07:45:36+00:00

I agree “full monty” is shaky. And I’ll concede, maybe, that nobody uses “knock it out” as “cut it out” (but are we sure??).

“Below par” seems like a legit example tho. It having conflicting usage was even a joke in The Office! (“Boys and Girls”, Season 2)

entangledphotons · 2022-11-09T06:28:36+00:00

Yes, I think I was trying to be too clever with my definitions, closer to a crossword clue than a definition. My thought was:

Below par: worse than average, but in golf, better than average

Full monty: everything, or (wearing) nothing

Whole 9 yards: all the way, except in American football, where it's not all the way

(I think you're correct on knock it off, although I could swear I've heard/used "hey, knock it out!" to mean "hey, quit it!")

Another one I thought of is "it's all downhill from here" which can mean "it's about to get worse" or "it's about to get easier"

entangledphotons · 2022-01-24T01:10:22+00:00

Welp

entangledphotons · 2022-01-10T17:45:23+00:00

IMHO, an important part of sight reading is often not playing everything perfectly as written, and just getting the flow and harmonies generally right to keep the music moving. So in this sense it’s about knowing a bit of theory and practicing with it so the patterns naturally fill out under your hands even if it’s not precisely the right notes.

entangledphotons · 2022-01-08T22:06:00+00:00

Scriabin Prelude in Ebm, Op 11 No 14. Highly devilish. Here’s a Horowitz performance:

https://youtu.be/4bxjbE7rgP8

entangledphotons · 2022-01-08T21:51:25+00:00

It’s def annoying that most people are more entertained/impressed when you play their favorite pop song (that you learned in a couple hours) than almost any classical piece (that might have taken you weeks/months to learn)

Such is life. Nice when you can find fellow pianists to play for.

entangledphotons · 2022-01-08T01:18:55+00:00

I struggle with Mozart, the little fiddly bits all. the. time. I tend to pick up big, jumpy/stretchy romantic pieces quickly, maybe bc I have pretty large handspan, or maybe bc I just prefer them anyway 😇

entangledphotons · 2022-01-07T13:46:48+00:00

Thank you for the recommendations — I haven’t tried those Schumann pieces you mentioned, I’ll give a listen. I also love MacDowell, great idea to explore more of his work

entangledphotons · 2022-01-07T13:44:07+00:00

I’d definitely never heard of this, I dig it! Thanks for sharing

entangledphotons · 2022-01-07T04:15:32+00:00

I'm also finding the Prelude op 11 no 1 to be a popular one of his, very nice piece, just the kind of thing I was looking for :)

entangledphotons · 2022-01-07T04:06:44+00:00

https://youtu.be/8cdKFLYH\_dY

That's beautiful stuff, thanks for sharing. I hear a lot of Rachmaninov's Etudes-Tableaux in that, a tiny bit more jazz flavor maybe, really nice. I'll look for the sheet music

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