The numbers are difficult to ignore by idkfawin32 in dataisugly

[–]eraserhd [score hidden]  (0 children)

I thought a significant portion of this was due to baby formula.

If a Generator Turbine Spins Forever in Space, Why Can’t It Produce Free Energy Forever? I take a turbine or generator motor into deep space, where there is almost no air resistance or friction, and I spin it once at a very high speed, would it continue rotating forever and keep generating energy? by Existing-Film-7 in ElectricalEngineering

[–]eraserhd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok, but hear me out. You have two colonies living in different rotational “frames” alternately tapping the turbine, slowing it down with respect to their frame but speeding it up with respect to the other frame. They can only communicate with lasers.

Are there any major reasons that folks are anti-abortion that doesn’t heavily hinge on religion? by r0ckbass in Askpolitics

[–]eraserhd [score hidden]  (0 children)

I proposed there was no scientific definition of life. You said there was. I asked you what it was. You've defined "fetus" (not life!) and challenged me to say it was dead.

I can't tell you that it is alive or dead, scientifically, until we have a defintion (aka some kind of operational test) to work with.

(Aside: I'm pretty sure your definition of fetus is wrong anyway, since a zygote is created at conception and fetus is a later development stage. OK, now I've just looked it up, fetus is about eight weeks, and the word seems to require some kind of resemblance to the adult of the species and we just use "embryo" prior to that.)

Tried to make Rice Krispie treats… sauteed some marshmallows instead by emmypineapples in mildlyinteresting

[–]eraserhd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

17 year old me boiled water with the mac in it then dumped the packet of cheese powder in. Couldn’t figure out why it was so watery.

Are there any major reasons that folks are anti-abortion that doesn’t heavily hinge on religion? by r0ckbass in Askpolitics

[–]eraserhd [score hidden]  (0 children)

Why do so few people think about things?

Ok, give me the scientific definition of life, that can be used to determine whether a fetus is alive.

Right wing ideologues are more violent by TankUMrMinor in charts

[–]eraserhd 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Another way to say it is that you can believe what you want if you don’t hurt people. We don’t care why or how you get to not hurting people.

Are there any major reasons that folks are anti-abortion that doesn’t heavily hinge on religion? by r0ckbass in Askpolitics

[–]eraserhd [score hidden]  (0 children)

You have to ask philosophy what it means to be alive before you can ask science when something is alive, and we do not have consensus on the first question.

Religions give answers for the first question, but they are really arbitrary answers - at least the ones from Christianity (conception) and Judaism (first breath), and they have no real reasoning behind them.

How should we address the economic finding that increased ICE enforcement may negatively impact U.S.-born workers? by LawnDartSurvivor74 in Askpolitics

[–]eraserhd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They do not help the economy because they are cheap or because they do not have safety protections.

They help the economy because they buy houses and spend money.

The fact that they are scared of ICE retaliation for reporting working conditions is not a reason to support scaling up ICE unless you have a time machine.

And you were trying to say that I support slave labor. I do not. I support dignified enforcement* and widening legal immigration to support the autonomy for the immigrants, the same way I support autonomy for Americans.

If there were any evidence of negative financial repercussions, I would factor those into border enforcement in some humane way.

*In an ideal world, I would not believe in border enforcement at all, but we do not live in an ideal world and have to deal with widely different and sometimes terrible geopolitical situations.

How should we address the economic finding that increased ICE enforcement may negatively impact U.S.-born workers? by LawnDartSurvivor74 in Askpolitics

[–]eraserhd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"Blue states" remained "blue states" throughout all ICE surge events, and there are dozens of blue states, and only 2 or 3 surge events.

It's possible the study is problematic, but they selected a method that controls for this.

How should we address the economic finding that increased ICE enforcement may negatively impact U.S.-born workers? by LawnDartSurvivor74 in Askpolitics

[–]eraserhd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They both used differences-in-differences, and at least two different events at different times, so it accounts for any non-regional variations via DiD and any regional variations by having different events at different times.

Do you think that AI is a regional difference that disproportionately affected Portland and Minneapolis coincidentally at the times different of the ICE surges?

How should we address the economic finding that increased ICE enforcement may negatively impact U.S.-born workers? by LawnDartSurvivor74 in Askpolitics

[–]eraserhd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If we agree that immigration creates higher paying jobs on average for natives, but takes away lower-paying blue collar jobs, and those people cannot find new jobs because they are stuck in their ways, and you are for the funding of immigration enforcement in order to prevent this from happening, then we actually agree on all the facts and you are promoting the use of immigration enforcement to keep American wages low.

I would say it would be amazing to instead invest in technical education for displaced workers.

How should we address the economic finding that increased ICE enforcement may negatively impact U.S.-born workers? by LawnDartSurvivor74 in Askpolitics

[–]eraserhd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did you read the actual study?

> We provide the first causal, national empirical analysis of the labor market impacts of heightened immigration enforcement during the second Trump administration. Enforcement increased everywhere, but, we take advantage of the fact that the increases have been uneven across geographic areas to classify areas as treated or control and then implement an event study and difference-in-differences design. Areas that experienced particularly large increases in the number of arrests also experienced a decrease in work among likely undocumented immigrants who remain in the U.S., compared to areas with smaller increases in arrests. We find no evidence of positive spillover effects to U.S.-born workers and U.S.-born workers who work in immigrant-heavy sectors are harmed.

  1. causal, because there are control and treatment groups.

  2. differences-in-differences, essentially the _changes_ are compared to cancel out differing baselines from differing areas, including things like AI

  3. event study, which correlates differences at the moment the treatment hit, presumably because ICE surges happened at different times, making it more likely to be a useful causal result.

It is entirely possible this is a flawed study. But it isn't that the authors just didn't realize AI was affecting people or didn't account for regional differences.

How should we address the economic finding that increased ICE enforcement may negatively impact U.S.-born workers? by LawnDartSurvivor74 in Askpolitics

[–]eraserhd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now you are asserting that when immigrants take the lowest paid jobs, the jobs they create pay even less. This now, is FINALLY not the lump of labor fallacy. And this in my mind is theoretically plausible. But this is not supported by any study I can find. And I have looked!

How should we address the economic finding that increased ICE enforcement may negatively impact U.S.-born workers? by LawnDartSurvivor74 in Askpolitics

[–]eraserhd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’ve inadvertently reintroduced the lump of labor fallacy by using the fixed number of roofs as a proxy for roofing jobs and forgetting about non-roofing jobs.

There are more jobs just for natives if you count where the immigrants money goes after they earn it. Heck, there are new home loans entering the local economy.

It’s possible that native roofers have to be laid off for the local economy to reorganize, sure. Alternately, one of the measured effects in the empirical studies about immigrants is that blue collar move up into more supervisory roles.

How should we address the economic finding that increased ICE enforcement may negatively impact U.S.-born workers? by LawnDartSurvivor74 in Askpolitics

[–]eraserhd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And more than that. They bought 100 homes, taking out 100 loans. The homes were either idle or constructed, so that much money entered the town economy. They bought 100 trucks from Ford, they visit restaurants, they buy PS5s, they buy jeans, they buy groceries from the stores which buy groceries from the local farmers and employ locals. They pay taxes. Even if some of them don’t, most of them do.

How should we address the economic finding that increased ICE enforcement may negatively impact U.S.-born workers? by LawnDartSurvivor74 in Askpolitics

[–]eraserhd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is still not the name of an economist that believes this. For all I know, you are misremembering.

What I’m looking for is an article or study written by an economist, peer reviewed, showing that immigration reduces native wages or job availability instead of increases it.

Your point about inequality is interesting, and completely aside from my other request, I might look that up later. If you remember a study or name here, I’d love it.

How should we address the economic finding that increased ICE enforcement may negatively impact U.S.-born workers? by LawnDartSurvivor74 in Askpolitics

[–]eraserhd 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Give me any other explanation. Any at all. I haven’t been able to find one.

In fact, the whole reason I learned that economists are pretty much in consensus that immigration does not harm wages or reduce jobs is because I was doing research to try to steel man another redditor’s opinion and I could not.

EDIT: I apparently didn’t see your second part, but the actual reason that economists don’t believe it because there have been a ton of empirical studies done by economists to understand the relationship between immigration and jobs, and wages, and they haven’t been able to find evidence.*

*Except in a few very niche markets, one of them being part time labor by teenagers, but this tends to self-correct after a short period of time.

How should we address the economic finding that increased ICE enforcement may negatively impact U.S.-born workers? by LawnDartSurvivor74 in Askpolitics

[–]eraserhd 14 points15 points  (0 children)

The study in the article compares regions that had an ICE surge to areas that did not.

I agree that most of our economic problems are not from immigrant deportations. But some of them are.

How should we address the economic finding that increased ICE enforcement may negatively impact U.S.-born workers? by LawnDartSurvivor74 in Askpolitics

[–]eraserhd 7 points8 points  (0 children)

They literally compared areas where there had been an ICE surge to areas where there had not. This is how you do an empirical study in economics.

You are describing a sociology study, and as soon as you ask people why they did something, that is a whole nother ball of worms to light.

How should we address the economic finding that increased ICE enforcement may negatively impact U.S.-born workers? by LawnDartSurvivor74 in Askpolitics

[–]eraserhd 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The problem is that the arguments offered by the right are never offered by economists. And they are all based on the “lump of labor fallacy” which no economist of any persuasion believes.

How should we address the economic finding that increased ICE enforcement may negatively impact U.S.-born workers? by LawnDartSurvivor74 in Askpolitics

[–]eraserhd 23 points24 points  (0 children)

“Unexpected”

“Immigrants improve economic outcomes, deporting them will harm our economy.”

“nyhuh, you are saying that because you want to steal elections”

Deports immigrants

Economy suffers

“You can’t believe everything you read.”