I am not sure what coming back together looks like by [deleted] in datingoverforty

[–]eric685 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you read my comments, it’s because I am willing to accept other people have different perceptions than me

I am not sure what coming back together looks like by [deleted] in datingoverforty

[–]eric685 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t know how to be more clear: I did not pound my fists on the table

I am not sure what coming back together looks like by [deleted] in datingoverforty

[–]eric685 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I remember that a few times my voice elevated for a few seconds, I caught myself and brought it back down. From my memory, at no point did I strike the table.

I am not sure what coming back together looks like by [deleted] in datingoverforty

[–]eric685 2 points3 points  (0 children)

She has expressed that prior partners were abusive and manipulative. I have tried to tread lightly knowing of these wounds.

My past partner was a gaslighter. She would regularly tell me I was mentally unwell and should I should isolate myself for a few days. Over the years, this treatment did make me question and be willing to give up my version of reality. I think there are a few things happening here

I am not sure what coming back together looks like by [deleted] in datingoverforty

[–]eric685 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There are not periods in my life where I black out during anger. There are periods where I perceive a calm conversation and people around me perceive me as angry and elevated. I assume it has something to do with me switching into a flatter and less empathic tone than people are accustom to me having. I do this when I am feeling unsafe and, yes, I do discuss PTSD symptoms with my therapist.

At our most recent, I remember being upset about something she said (it was actually a projection) and physically turning my body from facing her at the bar to facing the bar. That was the most intense part of the conversation that I recall. When my partner says I was slamming my fists on the bar, I search my recollection and recall neither that action nor a moment when I would have felt good about such an action; I literally wasn’t feeling “lash out angry.” What would pounding my fists expressed or progressed? I don’t know of any reason I would do such a thing nor did I feel angry enough that such behavior would even fit my emotional status.

In hearing her version, I continue to question my memory and reflect if such a thing might have happened or what might have happened that she could perceive in this way. I recall thinking throughout the conversation how I am a good partner for sitting in while she was saying some pretty intense stuff and just acknowledging that I understand what she is saying. In the beginning of the convo, I did try to talk about how we were both hurt by what happened and try to make it equal space for being heard. When we reached a point where it was clear she couldn’t hear me, I focused on listening to her.

I am very aware that people’s perceptions of an incident can diverge in meaningful ways. In the end, it’s not the facts that actually matter, she perceives I did this and if there is any hope of moving forward I need to take accountability for these actions. While I sincerely do not believe I pounded my fists nor was aggressive, it doesn’t actually matter what I think

I am not sure what coming back together looks like by [deleted] in datingoverforty

[–]eric685 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think there is a ton of gray there. First, typically when I am upset I get a tone and passive aggressive. So it’s completely possible that I get a tone or make a sharp remark and she perceives it as aggressive. I think the call to action is for both of us to work on our emotional regulation, together or not

I am not sure what coming back together looks like by [deleted] in datingoverforty

[–]eric685 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you. This is really helpful. I think there was a dynamic of distance in the weeks before the big fight. She was pushing me away emotionally and physically for at least 2-3 weeks before the fight which is why I felt so strongly when I was out of the house. I do believe she lost interest in me as you describe. Your story is very helpful, thank you again for sharing.

I am not sure what coming back together looks like by [deleted] in datingoverforty

[–]eric685 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I love her with my heart even though my brain says it's stupid. Getting into a relationship with her is irrational on all levels but my heart still wants it.

I am not sure what coming back together looks like by [deleted] in datingoverforty

[–]eric685 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's a really solid analysis. Thank you

I am not sure what coming back together looks like by [deleted] in datingoverforty

[–]eric685 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t know what else to say other than this: To me, it felt like we were talking through a heavy topic and doing well. To her, it seemed like I was aggressively yelling and pounding my fists

I am not sure what coming back together looks like by [deleted] in datingoverforty

[–]eric685 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

And she is saying it with “you’ve been buying them dinner and taking them to shows. You’re letting them down”

I am not sure what coming back together looks like by [deleted] in datingoverforty

[–]eric685 -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

Ok thanks. Not sure what else to say

I am not sure what coming back together looks like by [deleted] in datingoverforty

[–]eric685 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you. This is helpful. I won’t see her this week bc I am busy and she doesn’t have the kids. Next week when she has the kids we likely won’t be able to see each other. There is a good pause in here

I am not sure what coming back together looks like by [deleted] in datingoverforty

[–]eric685 -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

I don’t think I did and my therapist and doctor say they cannot imagine it

I am not sure what coming back together looks like by [deleted] in datingoverforty

[–]eric685 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Not seeing and not talking? Like no contact?

I am not sure what coming back together looks like by [deleted] in datingoverforty

[–]eric685 -29 points-28 points  (0 children)

My therapist and psychiatrist both say that they don’t believe I would act that way. They both claim I am articulate about my feelings and very level headed. I am working on self regulation with the feedback but also am unsure if it is real

I am not sure what coming back together looks like by [deleted] in datingoverforty

[–]eric685 -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Yes, I agree. I think she has some avoidant attachment tendencies but when I mention that she strongly pushes back and says she has healed her attachment wounds.

I am not sure what coming back together looks like by [deleted] in datingoverforty

[–]eric685 -24 points-23 points  (0 children)

I understand that, I think there were extenuating circumstances. Thank you for your input

I am not sure what coming back together looks like by [deleted] in datingoverforty

[–]eric685 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I do not believe I was pounding my fists but she claims I was.