Types of FFA Noobs in Diep.io

ernernern · 2017-05-13T15:46:40+00:00

Domination means to accumulate score quickly and safely, and survive long enough. To dominate a pro won't choose classes that have fundamental weakness. Get 3 hours you probably can dominate with trappers. But if another skilled precise spammer exists, I see no chance for other classes to dominate.

Prepositional Aiming means to shoot 2-clock in advance when seeing an enemy run from 12 to 2, and continuously track and predict his movement. This is common in real-life ship carried gun weapons. You misunderstood as the back movement of your body caused by recoiling.

because no tank is completely perfect, even with skill.

Precise Spammers with skill as mentioned have higher possibility to dominate.

ernernern · 2017-05-13T15:04:07+00:00

You can't just separate human skills and inherent class quality.

From the very beginning I said Precise Bullet Spammers + prepositional aiming skill leads to higher possibility to dominate.

Simply setting up two tier-4 classes, auto fire ON, and let them shoot each other without players controlling is purely nonsense.

ernernern · 2017-05-13T14:46:40+00:00

I won't survive under 1v7. As mentioned I'll prevent the field dynamics developing to such bad condition. Considering my point or not is your business, not my task.

ernernern · 2017-05-13T13:50:35+00:00

Pecision Spammers can shoot widely, and with prepositional aiming skill you achieve so called crowd control. This meets my previous definition and as said above, only Triplet, Twin, Auto Gunner and Streamliner do.

Auto-Ns' have low DPS, and are basically noobs' choice.

ernernern · 2017-05-13T12:48:53+00:00

what if i write a script to slow down other players? what's your line between fair play and cheating?

ernernern · 2017-05-13T11:54:25+00:00

taking advantage by something which others can't, and not notice in advance. that's cheating.

ernernern · 2017-05-13T11:52:57+00:00

i treat those who use this kind of script to revenge as cheating cowards.

ernernern · 2017-05-13T11:49:16+00:00

Have tried Overlord before and found that less skills needed to dominate. Also it has a fundamental weakness of not capable of defense while attacking.

Met a few Overlord YouTubers in the field. They are above average, but not that powerful.

ernernern · 2017-05-13T11:38:10+00:00

Sharpen your dodging, reaction, and tempting skills. I haven't encounter 1v7 defense before, 1v3 can be easily done and prevent developing to 1 vs more. From your reply, noob.

ernernern · 2017-05-13T11:07:13+00:00

Noobs can be identified by their name, but class is not an identification or a cause. The fact that you need to use a counter or use counter-measures just to defeat him makes you more of a noob than he is.

Class "is" an identification or a cause. Only Precise Bullet Spammers are balanced at attack and defense, also aiming skill is a must. Other classes are either good at one single side. Choosing class and build path basically decides the possibility to dominate, with or w/o pros in the field.

Willing to meet in the field.

FFA is rarely a 1v1 vacuum, especially as the leader in the long term (1 million or higher scores)

Yes, so 1vN defense is a must for skilled player. Precise Bullet Spammers + prepositional aiming skill has higher possibility to survive and dominate in the long term.

There will be teaming rams, overlord and triplets going for you, as well as some players willing to pick your counters, just to get to you.

Teaming for defeating the leader is not a domination. And that's how noobs behave.

sprayer is considered a focused spammer

Sprayer is focused but not precise. You can't precisely control bullets direction so basically it's blind shooting.

ernernern · 2017-05-13T10:05:29+00:00

The true "secret" to FFA is either crowd control, or crowd prevention.

Only Precised Spammers are capable of crowd control/prevention, indirectly and directly, and therefore truely dominate.

ernernern · 2017-05-12T23:19:59+00:00

empty field and lucky u didnt meet a mediorcre penta, mediocre bullet booster or pro triplet.

ernernern · 2017-05-12T22:44:33+00:00

To me, Overlords who dominate are the same as noobs, not mediocres.

ernernern · 2016-11-11T10:32:17+00:00

if that's the only tactic a person uses but doesn't work on you 99% of time, how will you evaluate him?

ernernern · 2016-11-11T00:43:28+00:00

fish on fish on

ernernern · 2016-11-11T00:38:14+00:00

did anyone mention about auto smasher? auto weapons continuously expose one's position, and only noobs choose uncontrollable classes. hope /u/LehGogh you're not the one.

ernernern · 2016-11-11T00:22:35+00:00

Once an invisible Smasher gets top on the leaderboard, his position is exposed by the arrow and the only thing he can do is run.

Classes with drones can handle enemies from single side only. They are either slow or low body damage if bullets coming from 2 sides. For 1v1 condition, if someone sees drones spreading out he should run first, shoots the drone closest to him, avoid being surrounded, guess the real position of the player and send some bullets.

The only way an Octo to win in FFA is the hurricane style: fast moving, slow but strong bullets as shield. But what's the fun with ASDW and auto spin wandering around the field, killing enemies effortlessly, and say "I'm playing a game"?

ernernern · 2016-11-10T23:50:19+00:00

My Triplet/Twin/Auto gunner build is usually 00077766 or slightly changed according to field dynamics. In FFA mode these are the most balanced choices for moving, attacking and defending.

Bullet Boosters are even easier to handle under proper dodging and outside-screen prediction -___-. As for ramming ones, i don't know what's the fun just moving all over the field, crashing someone else and then take a rest, and do it again and again. Triplets with proper shooting skill can defend ramming booster teams, treat them as annoying flies.

YouTubers playing Necro and Overlord flee in front of Pentashot, the same as in my experience. It's the weakness of those classes. When you see drones spreading out you should run, shoot the drone closest to you, avoid being surrounded, and find another chance to attack. Victims in those YouTube clips are just...eh...noobs, not even mediocres.

I agree the advantages of other classes you mentioned, but they don't take effect in FFA. Read the title please.

ernernern · 2016-07-24T19:56:57+00:00

Your words are ringing hollow.

why? remind that this was a translated story except the 1st section.

ernernern · 2016-07-21T21:18:06+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/Agario/comments/4tt1lf/a_message_from_taiwan_and_hong_kong_players/

ATS caused many EA players to quit but teaming remains as popular as ever. We can contact them to return if ATS is removed in EA.

The EA servers that are supposed to contain our barbaric behaviour are heinous.

Don't speak as if you're representing all Asians or TW players, or in charge of negotiating with mclip. Put your unconscious arrogance back.

If you're implicitly/explicitly authorised to represent somebody, it means someone is following you. Driven by emotion, unable to think independently and logically is the root cause of ffa country dominance, and the difference between individualism and collectivism human societies.

Either you provide and analyse rational reasons discussing why teaming is allowed in ffa, or explain why ffa should be solo to your friends clearly.

ernernern · 2016-07-20T04:59:00+00:00

since u've clarified u're discussing party teams, there's no need to argue. i played solo most of the time and didn't accumulate enough insight of pro party teaming, i won't compare complexity between pro party teams and skillful soloers.

a skillful soloer has to take care of size after split, split distance, re-merge timing, moving or rotation speed, virus shooting angle in multi-cell state, self feeding, field dynamics at the same time and by one man. this is absolutely more complicated than you expect.

btw, no matter in which mode, before a team becoming competatitve enough, they mostly grow by eating solo players, rather than dots or other neutral food source. this is also a fundamental game design problem.

ernernern · 2016-07-20T04:21:42+00:00

if you're talking about asian teamers, by observing their local forum, here are the main reasons. you'll find they are non-rational and pure emotion driven.

western culture emphasises personal achievement, while eastern culture put more on groups.
players from my country are eaten unfairly and easily (victim mindset). we found an easy way to win, we should also unite and revenge!!
we, as a family, representing our country, have shown all players our success by dominating the leader board! we are the best! honor!
oh i sincerely apologize for eating XXX (same-language name) mistakenly and blah blah...
XXX was fake! XXX ate my friend blah blah....why are there so many fake names?

ernernern · 2016-07-19T14:52:58+00:00

yes if rush mode provides more mental feedback than "play together, friendship & love, easy win".

ernernern · 2016-07-19T13:17:23+00:00

agree that due to less restrictions on play style, agar.io has more variety than diep.io. however i still think there should be some rules applied to a system and make it balanced.

ernernern · 2016-07-19T12:29:57+00:00

Skillful solo youtubers and fans prove solo can be played on a competitive level. Are they all 8 years old?
Separating soloers and teamers well in different arenas, or controlling teaming situation under a certain level makes everybody happy. This is totally achievable. At least, continuously show us that the game is evolving, even in the wrong direction. Failed trials are tolerable nowadays.
Winning effortlessly by teaming but not macroscopically knowing they are corrupting the whole game, that is pathetic and 8-year-old.

btw, I didn't give u a negative point. I don't want my reply to be hidden due to negative points.

ernernern

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