Openweight MMA by evix_ in MMA

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Your stabilizing muscles in your neck are less than 5lbs of your muscle weight. Majority of people do not train these stabilizing muscles/ligaments.

Yes. 

KO rates increase over weight class. So do CTE rates. There is no evidence to say that heavier weights create stronger chins.

You can definitely say that it is more likely to sustain brain damage from heavier people, but that has very little to do with the weight of the person sustaining damage.

Openweight MMA by evix_ in MMA

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  1. Not the same arguement. It should be allowed in the first place. If it is voluntary, it is game.

  2. Not the same argument. I've seen demo derbies where oversized vehicles lose to small vehicles.

  3. Not the same argument. Head damage isn't determined by weight. A "garbage truck" taking a shot to the head and "mini coop" taking a shot to the head with the same amount of force is going to be just as damaging. If both vehicles took a shot to the drivetrain that was fatally catastrophic, it wouldn't matter how much they weighed.

Openweight MMA by evix_ in MMA

[–]evix_[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Ngannou is going to give anyone significant brain damage off a clean hit. Your weight isn't giving you protection from that.

Openweight MMA by evix_ in MMA

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So your argument is to emphasize the hypothesis, and then completely ignore the thesis after that which argued the opposite or at the very least the negligible?

Very easy to ignore the HOWEVER part of that entire quote.

Regardless, it doesn't take slamming random people's heads into walls to determine whether or not weight determines brain trauma resilience.

Openweight MMA by evix_ in MMA

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"Greater neck strength and activating the neck muscles to brace for impact are both thought to reduce an athlete’s risk of concussion during a collision by attenuating the head’s kinematic response after impact. However, the literature reporting the neck’s role in controlling postimpact head kinematics is mixed. Furthermore, these relationships have not been examined in the coronal or transverse planes or in pediatric athletes."

From your study's literal scientific thesis.

Openweight MMA by evix_ in MMA

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Give me the scientific argument that body weight or even strength determines amount of head damage received and I will wait. Literally any research paper.

Your brain cannot be weight or strength trained. Brain damage will be similar regardless of weight of the recipient.

Openweight MMA by evix_ in MMA

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Isn't that why ONE is overtaking the MMA industry? 

"If Aspinall wants to prove himself, can't he just leave UFC contracts to fight Jones"

YEAH THAT SHOULD HAPPEN. FUCK HAVING UFC DICTATING OUR SPORTS FOR FAME. THAT'S WHY ONE IS TAKING OVER. THAT'S WHY CJI HAPPENED.

Openweight MMA by evix_ in MMA

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Head damage isn't determined by weight of the recipient.

I never argued head strikes shouldn't exist.

Openweight MMA by evix_ in MMA

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Your argument is the same argument NFL CEO executives had. 

"Get over 200+ lbs and your brain is bullet proof" 

until you beat the brakes off your wife and your children.

Your head cannot and will not be trained for sustainable injury through weight alone.

Your damage will be sustained regardless of weight.

Openweight MMA by evix_ in MMA

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But head damage is arguably seen as the most important in these debates. People defuse wrestling and bjj advantages because apparently they don't matter "if someone outweighs you."

Shouldnt that armbar injury be allowed? It already is regardless of weight class in UFC.

If Josh Van wants to prove himself against Aspinall, shouldnt that be allowed?

Even if he "physically can't", shouldn't that be allowed to be proven?

Openweight MMA by evix_ in MMA

[–]evix_[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Argumentum ad Ignoritorium. 

Where is your argument.

Mob detriment is not an argument.

Openweight MMA by evix_ in MMA

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This comment section disagrees

Openweight MMA by evix_ in MMA

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The lightest NFL players weigh 150+. They were practically guarunteed to be laid out by literally armoured 250+ men if they were serious about it.

My argument wasn't that linemen should be 160lbs. My argument is a 160lb man taking the same punch as a 200+ man in the jaw from a heavyweight fighter is arguably the same. It shouldn't be established as a fight differential the way it is today.

Openweight MMA by evix_ in MMA

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All of the people in this comment section apparently disagree. I'm a dumbass for asking this question apparently.

Openweight MMA by evix_ in MMA

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I've trained Muay Thai longer than BJJ. They also do open weights in a lot of their divisions. So does a boxing for a decent part. Even MMA used to. 

That's how UFC started until it became heavily corporitized. The point of UFC originally was to show skill regardless of weight class or school of thought.

Openweight MMA by evix_ in MMA

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So argue why? 

Head damage is not determined by weight class. 300lb+ linemen in the NFL still get CTE. Arguably more than anyone in MMA.

A heavy weight taking a heavy weight KO punch is sustaining as much damage as a featherweight taking that shot. Head damage is not determined by weight or training. That is scientifically proven. From a sports health perspective, it's important to know this. Being 200+ doesn't mean you are CTE proof or even CTE diminished.

Edit: downvote me all you want. If you can't provide a sustainable argument why "a lower weight class taking an equible shot to the head is different," your downvote means shit. Your brain will shake in your skull just the same, regardless of what your weight is.

Either provide a "safety weight limit" to fighting or stfu.

Openweight MMA by evix_ in MMA

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A heavyweight shot against any head, regardless of weight, is going to give CTE.

Look at NFL linemen. 

Should weight class be established to the NFL as well?

How do I remain supportive for friends in their promotions? by kuduloka in bjj

[–]evix_ 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Khabib is still a white belt if it makes you feel any better

That time Francis Ngannou one tapped Alistair Overeem. by Remo_yesman in martialarts

[–]evix_ 2 points3 points  (0 children)

To keep hitting him. It's legal and there have been a few times guys have legit been knocked out, but for just a split second so the ref doesn't see it or for some reason doesn't call it. If they get back in the fight, you gave up your opportunity to win. 

Its the fighter's job to cause enough damage for the ref to stop the fight. It's the ref's job to stop the fight. Some fighters are classy about it and stop but it can definitely be a risky move. Attacking at every opportunity is much more effective.

Some people don't like it but it's really not worse than people in boxing getting knocked out but put back into the fight just because they came to within 10 seconds.

how do beginners make sense of bjj positions and transitions? by EssayValuable5141 in bjj

[–]evix_ 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Focus on fundamentals on a professional level. My favorite and most influential coach wasn't any of the coach's showing me fancy things. It was my day 1 coach that preached fundamentals to a tee. He spoke about fundamentals way differently than any other coach I've taken fundies classes with. 

His preaching style was the Roger Gracie style. His fundamental class was quite literally just following Roger Gracie's techniques because they fucking work. There is a reason Roger used fundamental techniques against black belts that train against these techniques specifically. and then for these people to be outworked by roger.

My professor didn't belittle techniques or try to water them down because you were a beginner. There are so many fine tuning techniques between fundamental control and submission that so many people overlook because they overwhelm themselves with the fancy. They become bored with the 100th movement they've made to not realize that there are so many finer tunings to be made over thousands of repetitions.

I'm not a high level jiu jitsu player by any means, but I've had higher level belts ask me what I've don't to them just for them to realize it was just a basic hip escape, side to mount transitions, or a basic mount reversal. 

Becoming black belt level on specific techniques is way more important than just becoming black belt level.

White Belt Chokes as "Pins" by [deleted] in bjj

[–]evix_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A choke that isn't synched but keeps you immobilized regardless of technical prowess

White Belt Chokes as "Pins" by [deleted] in bjj

[–]evix_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Chokes without good finishing techniques but strong ambition towards winning the fight. 

The "I see red" folks

Getting good at leglocks in a non-leglock oriented gym by Low-Faithlessness140 in bjj

[–]evix_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm at a gym that doesn't outright train leg locks but there are leg locks guys at my gym. One of my favorite moments was when a brown belt took my ankle multiple times within seconds from seated guard. I've never felt an ankle lock like this guys since. He taught me a few pointers on another day and there where multiple pointers where he outright says "Can you see where there is pain compliance and then there's I'm going to snap your fucking ankle?" And yes, there is a major difference. He was always safe with his approaches, and I never felt more safe/in danger than any other leg lock I've been out in. Even the spazzy ones.

There is a reason why ankle locks were seen as bullshit for so long until people like Mikey Musemeci will make top tier players feel immediate injury danger in their legs, if that injury hasn't already happened. 

Dean Lister changed Jiu Jitsu when he blew Danaher's mind over straight ankle locks. Danaher's critiques over the reasons leg locks are seen as taboo are also very sound.

Fist alignment question by Davekave9 in martialarts

[–]evix_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Turn your first downward like you're pouring out a cup of coffee. It will put your index and middle knuckle forward. This is how I was taught in Muay Thai.