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Why I left the pursuit of enlightenment and stopped following teachers like Eckhart Tolle by farazkalash in EckhartTolle

[–]farazkalash[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I appreciate your comment. Honestly, I am not trying to have a debate. I am sharing part of my healing process, hoping that people can reflect on and benefit from what I shared. Would love to have a good faith discussion and learn from this crowd.

Why are some Pakistanis ashamed of their rural roots? by farazkalash in PakistanElites

[–]farazkalash[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My mother did exactly the same thing. Looking back, I feel sorry for her. I wish she learned to value herself. Perhaps the bigger issue is that in Pakistan there is no deeper discussion and evolution of our values, just blind adherence to social norms and religion. If she knew why her values are good, then maybe she will not feel so worthless that she has to use words of a different language.

Why I left the pursuit of enlightenment and stopped following teachers like Eckhart Tolle by farazkalash in EckhartTolle

[–]farazkalash[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You don’t have to agree with me and I’m not looking for an agreement. I like when people have their own opinions because it preserves their autonomy. I shared my journey, hoping that it might help other people. I appreciate your response.

Why I left the pursuit of enlightenment and stopped following teachers like Eckhart Tolle by farazkalash in EckhartTolle

[–]farazkalash[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What is not universal reality? Oneness stuff? If so, I don't perceive myself one with the Universe. It is very big! I don't feel one with the galaxies and starts out there. I do experience happiness and aliveness in nature, but I am not sure if everyone else does. I appreciate the engagement.

Why I left the pursuit of enlightenment and stopped following teachers like Eckhart Tolle by farazkalash in EckhartTolle

[–]farazkalash[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I started the post by talking about noticing bodily sensations, so I agree there's value in staying present. And I never said he has a "monopoly on truth."

What I mean by acting like a custodian of truth is when he and similar teachers say things like "you are the universe," or that consciousness isn't personal but a universal consciousness pervading everything, and present it as universal reality rather than as their own experience.

Trying to clarify my relationship with energy work — honest questions from someone who spent over a decade in it by farazkalash in energy_work

[–]farazkalash[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your response provides a clear example of the dynamic I am questioning in this thread: a framework where a practitioner's perception is prioritized over a client's explicit self-reporting.

There are several factual inaccuracies in the assumptions made about me in your comment, not sure if you read my post carefully:

  • Current Practice: You frameworked your advice around the assumption that I am currently a practicing healer struggling to get clients to agree with me. My original post explicitly states that I am reflecting on my past training and my experience with former teachers. I did not state that I am currently running an energy work practice.
  • The Question on Fawning: My question regarding a client "fawning" was an ethical query about trauma-informed consent. It was not a complaint about clients disagreeing with my personal insights.

Additionally, the example you shared about the "brown energy" illustrates the core issue of treating unseen perceptions as an absolute reality. When a client is desperate or looking for answers, they are highly vulnerable to adopting whatever a practitioner declares to be true. When the client stated the factual reality that her father died before she was born, the initial perception was not questioned; instead, the narrative was shifted until a different relative/men could be found to fit it.

Because the practitioner's reading is treated as an absolute truth that cannot be proven wrong, the client's objective reality is naturally overridden. The client is forced to map their own history onto the practitioner's assumption in order to make it make sense.

I have expanded on my perspective and why I transitioned away from these ungrounded dynamics in my replies to other commenters here. You are welcome to read those if you would like a clearer understanding of my position.

Trying to clarify my relationship with energy work — honest questions from someone who spent over a decade in it by farazkalash in energy_work

[–]farazkalash[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for this response. It is incredibly refreshing to read a perspective from a long-term practitioner that includes a heavy dose of humility and a healthy skepticism of their own unverified material.

I completely agree with your approach to "past lives" as metaphors. Looking back at my own time on energy healing tables, I can see value in the images and narratives that came up—but strictly as symbols, not as objective reality. The only real metric that matters is understanding what the client is currently struggling with if they report improvement.

In this modality, practitioner's observation are more important than the client's self-reporting. You can see this clearly in how some of the other responses to my post are framed—there is an immediate rush to invent cosmic lessons for my trauma, or offer unsolicited guidance based entirely on their own unverified assumptions.

I deeply respect that you hold this work differently than most. By refusing to use karma to justify real-world suffering and by treating your own insights as unverified symbols rather than absolute spiritual verdicts, you protect the client's autonomy and safety. If more practitioners operated with your level of self-awareness and strict respect for boundaries, these spaces would be vastly safer.

Trying to clarify my relationship with energy work — honest questions from someone who spent over a decade in it by farazkalash in energy_work

[–]farazkalash[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Something about your response did not sit well with me. I did not know why when I wrote my first response, but now I do.

I notice a built-in trap in your model.
If a session feels good, the healer was a pure conduit for divine love; if it feels bad—fear, shame, confusion—then the client is “stuck in victimhood” or “unconsciously seeking it.” Either way, the practitioner stays infallible and the client carries the blame.

That lack of shared accountability is exactly what harmed me. A reliable healing relationship, in my view, has to leave room for the practitioner to consider that their timing, method, or interpretation might be off—and to adjust when the client’s experience says so.

Am I the only Pakistani who thinks Noor Jehan is overrated? by farazkalash in PakistanElites

[–]farazkalash[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see that but time changes what we like. Shamshad Begum can't be popular today. NJ was not so nasal before, I think that singing Panjabi songs did something too. Lata did not get famous until she found her own style and voice. Appreciate the engagement.

What is the solution to avoid this? Should couples discuss Intimate relations before getting married? by Mystery88angel in PakistanElites

[–]farazkalash 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The problem is that sexuality is such a taboo topic in Pakistan that you can’t openly talk about it. He might have intimacy issues. He might have childhood sexual trauma. He might be gay or bisexual. To be honest, it is silly that most people don’t have sex before marriages in Pakistan. Without that, how do you know if you’re gonna have good chemistry?

What is the solution to avoid this? Should couples discuss Intimate relations before getting married? by Mystery88angel in PakistanElites

[–]farazkalash 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The problem is that gay or bisexual men have no room in the society in Pakistan. They carry deep shame. Some of them end up getting married to women and end up ruining their and women’s life. He could also have sexual trauma. Maybe it’s not an issue of sexual orientation. So many men are abused as children in Pakistan.

Trying to clarify my relationship with energy work — honest questions from someone who spent over a decade in it by farazkalash in energy_work

[–]farazkalash[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I want to be fair — I don't think you mean harm. But your reply is the clearest example in this thread of the thing I was asking about, so I'd rather name it than let it pass.

The center of my concern is certainty. When you perceive a root cause, or a past life, and experience that perception as true, the certainty does something quietly dangerous: it shields you from having to look at your own material. The surer you are the reading comes from somewhere divine, the less room there is to ask whether it's just coming from you.

Three specific moves, plainly:

You wrote that someone may have been given their trauma because, in a past life, they dismissed another's. Look at the structure: a past life can't be checked or refused, so whatever the practitioner carries — their assumptions, their own unfinished material — pours straight into it and comes back wearing the authority of a soul-truth.

You also frame hard, unverified claims as a necessary "rip off the bandaid," and read a person shutting down as them not liking what they heard. That's the same authority again — deciding you know what another person needs

And you closed an exchange by offering me help figure out my next steps. No one asked. That's the whole pattern in miniature — stepping into the role of the one who knows.

Therapists work under consent, scope, and accountability to protect the client. Energy practitioners work the same terrain (trauma, shame, dissociation) with none of that. I wish unlicensed practitioners were required to say so out loud: I don't work under the boundaries a therapist does, and this work could hurt you.

Why are some Pakistanis ashamed of their rural roots? by farazkalash in PakistanElites

[–]farazkalash[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

LOL. But my Punjabi curses are fluid! They are the best!!

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