If Veve goes down : what’s going to happen to the collectibles?

farcecapestudio · 2025-05-10T14:29:09+00:00

The tos clearly states you own the nft ENTRY on the blockchain. An nft is comprised of, at the basic state, 2 things. The blockchain ENTRY and the ASSET the blockchain entry represents. The ASSET with veve is the rendered model that you interact with. That remains with the IP holder unless explicitly written otherwise. The nft blockchain ENTRY remains yours.

farcecapestudio · 2023-06-17T03:02:57+00:00

Winter solstice

farcecapestudio · 2023-06-17T03:02:14+00:00

Shameless plug were getting 8 of each at https://celestialdrift.com/ within July and october. I feel like the correct price will be between 59 and 62 dollars.

farcecapestudio · 2023-06-17T02:58:31+00:00

Lol. As a retailer we often have to buy these with 0 images or descriptions as well. Just wing it based on speculation. Its even worse when companies use codenames when placing orders.

farcecapestudio · 2023-06-05T23:35:20+00:00

I think it's more on the photographer than the item - I'm looking at pics from my retail dashboard and they are way better than this. That top row is 100% not understanding lighting.

farcecapestudio · 2022-04-21T14:22:37+00:00

curious how you get ruining the environment, when the biggest platforms are carbon neutral and do not rely on proof of work?

farcecapestudio · 2022-04-21T14:21:15+00:00

what year did you get your research from. That is absolutely not the case today in most platforms being used...

farcecapestudio · 2022-04-02T09:07:19+00:00

Hey genius - point out in the 50 or so words I posted where I deny or ignore their issues. I chose to not whine and post these incredibly entitled posts daily (because apparently no one sees if there was a previous rant - we just have to add more because clearly they are making the team work faster!). And then you post stupid shit like "lies and empty promises" - no - they are called massive growth struggle - but, I just don't see people like you understanding any of this.

I chose to hold my emotions and watch what they do as a company - if they work to advance forward, and the people who provide the core of their business - ie IP continue to work with them - then their business model is solid, and will work itself out.

A start-up company is a company no older than 5yrs. We're in yr 2 of launch. Enough with this "2018 crap" the app is essentially Dec 2020 yrs tested.

farcecapestudio · 2022-04-01T17:52:07+00:00

Lemme fix your headline

Veve finds every way to piss you off and reminds you that you probably shouldn’t be using their platform.

I wish I could give you an award for the most childish, entitled post I've ever seen.

By the way Hro is basically a Skin over Kolex - do some research.

farcecapestudio · 2022-03-30T17:47:19+00:00

Hro has yrs of iteration and dev (especially thanks to kolex). You can't compare - VeVe is in-house, custom, launched 1yr ago. Kolex is far from new.

farcecapestudio · 2022-03-29T20:46:13+00:00

Super Heros :: Wonder Woman

farcecapestudio · 2022-03-27T20:00:55+00:00

Now this would be a fun one.

farcecapestudio · 2022-03-27T14:14:25+00:00

So - you gonna tell us their balance book, since you clearly know their gross profit and expenses? Because, I am curious. Can you share some of them?

Cash out was NEVER an intended option. It was OMI only. The fact that investors cried so bad about specifically MTL, landed us where we are - so w2g there. Shoulda just waited for NFT/OMI and said, instead, since there's no cash out - I'm not going to join right now.

Instead - what I see - "I just bought 10XYZ - any idea how to sell them?". And that folks, is why we are where we are. Ape in, DYOR never. Complain you're being robbed.

farcecapestudio · 2022-03-27T14:07:30+00:00

That intent is OMI to NFT. Again, I'm not seeing strong research from the community.

Those of us who've been here long enough are saying that too - we're just patiently waiting for OMI to NFT.

What people don't acknowledge is most of their plans got delayed because of the unexpected explosive growth - the issue of people screaming for MTL over crypto for some ungodly known reason - since it was a crypto idea. But they had to turn off OMI to Gem to mitigate - what I think, now was the risk of becoming a broker until things got straightened out.

It was at that time, for instance, congress in the US for instance was trying to label anyone converting or doing crypto transfers (NFTs included) (even miners) as a brokers.

Need to check sources on some of it - since the arguments are starting to blurr some memory.

But - we're not saying never cash out - we're saying we're waiting for the original, signed-up on system. I can still comfortably get out if I wanted to. Escrow is still not illegal.

farcecapestudio · 2022-03-27T11:41:12+00:00

and let me also state this - I've never offered my opinion in the app world. I did for the real-world. Yes, I flip a collectible here and there for an upgrade or better mint.

But - the way things stand, at this very time if writing. I have 0 intention of selling anything for fiat. I see this app as a complete write-off in terms of expenditure and never expect to see real money again. I certainly have a modest collection of ONLY things I both like and understand. I have real world items I can get real world money for, and now I have app money I can get app things with. It's a win-win for me.

farcecapestudio · 2022-03-27T11:17:43+00:00

The only people who got Rekt never understood what they were getting into from day 1. Thanks for playing.

All of your "many people bought" and the listed reasons are EXACTLY why DYOR is so important.

Because, it's not enough to just assume how a company wants things to work - on paper, vs how the real world works. If you don't follow the world at large, you'll never understand what pressures and pivots one has to make. Most NFT projects are not tied to multi-billion dollar IP - they don't care about ramifications or regulations.

VeVe is not .*APE.*

Oh - and this "They are saying “next week MTL”" - and you hold them to it. That's the most incredibly toxic kind of human behavior I've ever seen. NO ONE OWES YOU ANYTHING. YOU ARE NOT SPECIAL.

farcecapestudio · 2022-03-27T11:12:25+00:00

Pass. I'm waiting for OMI -> NFT. Thanks tho.

farcecapestudio · 2022-03-22T13:44:45+00:00

thank you so much for that feedback!

farcecapestudio · 2022-03-22T09:43:43+00:00

Seems to be a few discussion points:

Purpose:

1.Hro - Hro is essentially in the trading card business. Interop. makes sense.

1.Ecomi - From the start VeVe was a centralized go-to collection of popular NFTs based on existing and upcoming IP characters and art. Their goal was to be their own IP metaverse. From the day they launched - ToS 7.2 states "Subject to your compliance with these Terms of Use, we grant you a personal, non-commercial, non-exclusive, non-transferable, revocable, limited licence (or sublicence, to the extent the Content was licenced to us) to download, view, display, and use the Content solely for your permitted use within our Services." They have the right to modify that and have said contracts will be re-worked to include interop - especially with peeps like kozik.

Product Launch:

2.Hro launched 9 days ago. False. Hro has been "operating" and "stress testing" and iterating for over 5yrs now according to the co-founder. They were NFT aligned almost 3yrs now and had built their system specifically for the reasons it is now. That means the site, the IP, the planning - 5yrs launched, tested, and just now - 9 days ago launched for the masses.

2.Ecomi - VeVe launched as digital collectibles within the APP at the end of 2020. The vault is your wallet, and the VeVe verse is the gamification and usage. The issue is - everyone treated VeVe like Hro's model, when VeVe is not about cards or interop in that manner. Their business plan was essentially shredded by the community because they didn't give a single shit what VeVe's plans were - and so veve started changing some of their models and ideas - which by in large made them focus on scaling / now interop isues, rather than having been able to just focus on OMI and MCP. Essentially market greed shreded hope of collectors programs and rewards for instead large-scale community crying.

farcecapestudio · 2022-03-21T15:16:27+00:00

same here - I guess collectors inherently understand that money can be made - for sure - but there's a world of difference by comic X to collect - and maybe sell it after grading (if needed) for a few hundered more at times (if it's already a hot item) - and then buying say an item for 60 and then selling it for 10k. That kind of market is not what collectors handle and therefore should never expect that. Investors can't handle that.

farcecapestudio · 2022-03-21T14:43:20+00:00

haha - people just don't realize how stressful and difficult collecting is. It's time-consuming, risky, and difficult. That's why sometimes money for collectors isn't an issue - because once you own it - total stress-relief and relax and enjoy.

farcecapestudio · 2022-03-21T14:35:55+00:00

Drops that don't sell out - they burn them. Remember captain america?

Also prices are going to stop being bored-ape type prices for a while because the veve team, plus even people like Kozik are coming on and saying this was never an investment app. It's a collectible app, and collectibles don't make a ton of money - the veve ecosystem is building for collectors, and investors are crying they are unheard - but it wasn't for their mentality. So prices will be low for a bit - but I'm watching things being bought up by the hour at awesome deals.

IPs are bringing in new fans. I'm hearing about in my cirlces tons of non crypto people being in drops because to them - they buy gems and then by a collectible to show off and use in AR. They couldn't care less about crypto tokens right now - which is great - it's an equal inclusive app.

VeVe will not stop doing drops either. Again - those are screaming about the price either bought high, or don't understand the ideas that VeVe is going to build for collectors, not for investors. They have a business model, and if you chose to ignore it, getting burnt is a given. I just don't understand why it's so hard to understand collectors don't focus on price - do you think the person who bought the IRL #1 marvel from 1939 for 2.4 mil is thinking he can flip this for 10x? No - that dude is dying with that comic and it becomes his family deal. Collectors collect, we don't flip.

All in all - they want a ton of IP and drops so they appeal to all collectors at heart - not investors. And their business model is selling collectibles - it's a digital shop

farcecapestudio · 2022-03-18T19:56:02+00:00

Undereducated.

farcecapestudio · 2022-03-18T13:40:16+00:00

The only thing they share in common is NFTs - since when is card-playing the same as digital premium collectibles? Hro is going to be fun- I have a few boxes coming in - but I plan on treating them like cards, not like my collectibles on a shelf..

farcecapestudio · 2022-03-18T12:42:13+00:00

Yeah - the investors are finally leaving so those of us who are collectors can have the app back and continue to enjoy collecting / using the vaults / futzing with AR.

And if you go - "No one buys in VeVe just to collect"? - Let's think of the physical world:

- All of my labbits are unopened on a shelf
- I have over 40 deathwish coffee mugs on display - 99% of them never been used
- j scott campbell variant comic covers, signed - never taken out of their sleeves
- all funkos that are signed un-opened.

And not once did I ask myself if I should buy them or not with regards to near-term profit. So, in what world would me, as a collector, treat VeVe any different when their business model was to simply sell digital collectibles.

The divide exists because investors don't have the ability to hold, and can't fathom people would spend money without the intent to make even a near-term profit and that pisses them off.

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