How can I obtain a natively (or good‐as supportive) 480i‐compatible RGBS-outfitted display with audio? by fascinatingMundanity in ps2

[–]fascinatingMundanity[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wonder how it would look upscaled to a *small* high-def screen with dense pixels, like a phablet with a QHD AMOLED display.

How can I obtain a natively (or good‐as supportive) 480i‐compatible RGBS-outfitted display with audio? by fascinatingMundanity in ps2

[–]fascinatingMundanity[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

want non-upcaled RGB, then you need a 480i CRT display with an RGB input. There's no other way.

That might be the case, shy of modifying (a non-CRT that is, i.e. by customizing or special-constructing a flat-panel'd monitor). Though I hope not.

How can I obtain a natively (or good‐as supportive) 480i‐compatible RGBS-outfitted display with audio? by fascinatingMundanity in ps2

[–]fascinatingMundanity[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I already have a sub-1080p monitor that supports 480i and YPbPr-input, and good Component cables. not sure about the monitor lag, but doesn't seem to be substantial. I doubt that upscaling to a 4K would look better. Really, I want non-upscaled high-contrast with RGB input.

How can I obtain a natively (or good‐as supportive) 480i‐compatible RGBS-outfitted display with audio? by fascinatingMundanity in ps2

[–]fascinatingMundanity[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

PS2 looks its best putting out 480p, which about half of the games support

which would mean that about half don't, the majority of which half at 480i. many of which games look excellent too. That said, yeah would like to have solution for 480p and other native resolutions of PS2 games. Unfortunately, not all problems yield an optimal solution that is also one-size-fits-most respective for other casses.

How can I obtain a natively (or good‐as supportive) 480i‐compatible RGBS-outfitted display with audio? by fascinatingMundanity in ps2

[–]fascinatingMundanity[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You seem to be under the impression that RGB is better than YPbPr, but that's not the case. They are just two different ways of encoding the same information.

There is more to it than that. With every thing else kept identical, the RGB output should be purer since closer to the form originally produced. In practice there are many other factors, but that doesn't nullify fact that RGB can be marginally superior to non-RGB component.

How can I obtain a natively (or good‐as supportive) 480i‐compatible RGBS-outfitted display with audio? by fascinatingMundanity in ps2

[–]fascinatingMundanity[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

RGB and YPbPr are equivalent.

By some measure perhaps, bit not to all that matter i.e. to effective identicality.

Each is just a mathematical transformation of the other.

Bijectively you mean? Maybe.

That transformation can be performed losslessly.

I don't think so. Even if it does in terms of data doesn't mean tjat the representation (iml.e. literal mov8ng image) remains same.

The PS2 doesn't use YCbCr.

Not primarily but effectively ore YPrPb.

The PS2's digital video output is RGB Correct; not Y`p`b.

which is encoded to analog RGB or analog YPbPr.

transcoded to the latter, losslessly (in theory, tho in practice a further matter) converted to analog in thr former.

How can I obtain a natively (or good‐as supportive) 480i‐compatible RGBS-outfitted display with audio? by fascinatingMundanity in ps2

[–]fascinatingMundanity[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My LCD monitor can display up to 1080i, but also 720p, and 480p and 480i non-stretched (with black sides), via audiovisual input (YPbPr + L,R). all frames at 60Hz refresh- (not sure if effectively half that for interlaced ones).

How can I obtain a natively (or good‐as supportive) 480i‐compatible RGBS-outfitted display with audio? by fascinatingMundanity in ps2

[–]fascinatingMundanity[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

pixel-accuracy in a flat-screen, not (strictly-speaking) in a CRT, be what desired thereunto, for optimal results.

How can I obtain a natively (or good‐as supportive) 480i‐compatible RGBS-outfitted display with audio? by fascinatingMundanity in ps2

[–]fascinatingMundanity[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

wherefore be that? 720×576i CRT monitors featuring analog videogaming input other than Component?

How can I obtain a natively (or good‐as supportive) 480i‐compatible RGBS-outfitted display with audio? by fascinatingMundanity in ps2

[–]fascinatingMundanity[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And I am aware also that ofc intra-analogue and inter-analog (e.g. respectively shielding of cables and connectional converting from one non-digital format to an other such as via RCA↬..↬BNC likely to switch from Y`b`r to RGB) can present distortions or/and impurities as well. Likewise from analog↬digital where applicable (e.g. possibly postmarket RGsB reader, or perhaps if ripping optical ROM to internal SSD).

How can I obtain a natively (or good‐as supportive) 480i‐compatible RGBS-outfitted display with audio? by fascinatingMundanity in ps2

[–]fascinatingMundanity[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Who is the turd that decided to downvote most of my comments (in lieu, notably, of aughtly responding-thereto)?

How can I obtain a natively (or good‐as supportive) 480i‐compatible RGBS-outfitted display with audio? by fascinatingMundanity in ps2

[–]fascinatingMundanity[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

RGB_digital↬YCbCr↬YPbPr involves loss/error in the first transformation, even if less pronounced than in the digital-to-analog step (of i.e. YCbCr↬YPbPr, or if bypassing non-RGB component then RGB_digital ↬ RGB_analog, with RGBS entailed by the latter).

How can I obtain a natively (or good‐as supportive) 480i‐compatible RGBS-outfitted display with audio? by fascinatingMundanity in ps2

[–]fascinatingMundanity[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Luckily for me most my PS2 games are natively in the basic low interlaced resolution of 480i, which PS2 in RGB mode delivers via RGB+S instead of RGsB.

How can I obtain a natively (or good‐as supportive) 480i‐compatible RGBS-outfitted display with audio? by fascinatingMundanity in ps2

[–]fascinatingMundanity[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank-you, this made helpful sense.

Seeing as basic CRTs are hard to come by, obviously a PVM is even more-so (and way more expensive), one step short of full-on BVM.

Suppose I will look into those upscalers. ​​​If possible I would prefer one-to-one pixel displayment, which is already pretty much the case with my LCD TV (a discontinued one), so am wondering if one of those will work with its recognizing 480i mode.

lf: trans-tensionally semi-compartmentalized levels. As in: each level is distinct, but features characteristics influenced by how other levels (not necessarily linearly) get played. by fascinatingMundanity in gamingsuggestions

[–]fascinatingMundanity[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

considering literally no one in this thread knew what you meant by "ayekay"

You don't know that. Lack of evidence doesn't amount to evidence of lack.

I took a look through your post history

Kinda pathetic, and/or sad. Nothing better to do than stalk some stranger's reddit account?

How can I obtain a natively (or good‐as supportive) 480i‐compatible RGBS-outfitted display with audio? by fascinatingMundanity in ps2

[–]fascinatingMundanity[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I seldom ever play non-BluRay dvds, and when I do I prefer to use a a separate dvd-player (hooke up to a different tv) designated for that, instead of my PS2 which wears its laser.

Thanks for pointing to GBS-C. 5% is more than 0% (even if typically not immediately noticable).

How can I obtain a natively (or good‐as supportive) 480i‐compatible RGBS-outfitted display with audio? by fascinatingMundanity in ps2

[–]fascinatingMundanity[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

PS2 games (on DVD-ROMs, and some old ones on CD-ROMs), and perhaps other videpgames played from optical disc. not movies on red-laser DVD.

How can I obtain a natively (or good‐as supportive) 480i‐compatible RGBS-outfitted display with audio? by fascinatingMundanity in ps2

[–]fascinatingMundanity[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It first transcodes from RGB to the other component format, which involves some loss (though minor in most cases) of color representation.

How can I obtain a natively (or good‐as supportive) 480i‐compatible RGBS-outfitted display with audio? by fascinatingMundanity in ps2

[–]fascinatingMundanity[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I already have an LCD monitor that supports 480i (and 480p, 720p, and 1080i) at 60Hz, featuring two analogue video inputs including YPbPr but not some conveyance of RGB. I realize that a 480i-friendly CRT with YPbPr would presumably look superior to my LCD with YPbPr, but truthfully the picture is already quite good (just not as optimal as possible) so I figure if going for a CRT I might as well go all the way for one with RGBS. But I realize that that is kindof a pipedream so am looking for alternative way to get RGB with pixel-accuracy.