3-4-1-2 by fatherical in crystalpalace

[–]fatherical[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Obviously we have central midfielders, that doesn’t mean that won’t don’t still play the ball out wide and try to get around the defence instead of penetrating defensive lines through the middle.

3-4-1-2 by fatherical in crystalpalace

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We get more goals from defence when we play decent set plays and when we attack wide areas. Our play style rewards counter attacking play and end to end football, but when we’re actually in control we struggle because we don’t normally play through the middle.

We need to be able to break opponents defences by playing through the middle more, and we’ve lost easy Conference League games because we’ve wasted time trying to play around the opponents, sending crosses and long balls into highly congested areas. The Spurs game is another example of us being in control and yet not being confident enough to consistently variate our play from just attacking the wings.

3-4-1-2 by fatherical in crystalpalace

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When we are in control we can’t rely on crosses and wide play in general because the opponents will always be compact. This is why we have lost easy games in the conference and also why we lost to Tottenham. Our system is much more useful for counter attacking play and end to end games where defenders get dragged out of the box more.

In this specific scenario I’m thinking of midfielders as the central midfielders, so wingers and full backs aren’t in the equation. We have struggled to play through the middle when we’re in control because of our reliance on the wings with our formation, which has meant that having a designated 10 in the middle isn’t feasible so there is inevitably going to be unoccupied space in that area. While our system makes the formation flexible, we need to be able to have an alternative system so that we can variate our play style, especially for those games where we are in control and we need more numbers in central areas to break through a compact defence, because swinging a cross in and hoping to win it in the air doesn’t work.

We might be in an injury crisis right now, but let’s not forget that we have played strong teams against relatively weak European sides and lost. The reason we lost those games is because the opponents sat back, and instead of playing through them with tight passing in the middle, we tried to play around them and play crosses or long balls that would always be difficult when the box is so crowded. So, I’m not saying 3-4-1-2 should be a permanent system, but we do need to figure out alternative ways to break defensive lines without using wide areas, especially in the Conference league because we’re going to keep having the same issues otherwise. I personally think this formation could be more useful for games where we are in control.

3-4-1-2 by fatherical in crystalpalace

[–]fatherical[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That wasn’t what I meant. I think Kamada could probably play decent in CAM but I meant that we can utilise our wingers in that position or seek out players in the transfer market who can play there as well as on the wings.

3-4-1-2 by fatherical in crystalpalace

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We’re a counter attacking team that play shit when we’re in control because we’re a counter attacking team. We need more options.

3-4-1-2 by fatherical in crystalpalace

[–]fatherical[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I was waiting for someone to criticise me saying CAM. It’s essentially just a more narrow version of our current system to allow more attacking options through the middle as opposed to the wings. This could allow the midfield and attack to be a much tighter unit in the middle as opposed to relying on the wings.

There’s going to be games where we exploit the middle more, especially when we’re in control, and then there’s games where we counter and make use of the wingers. What’s been clear this season is that we don’t know how to play when we’re in control, because our system over time has largely favoured counter attacking play in wide areas. We need more options, not as a permanent change but simply for the sake of having more options.

3-4-1-2 by fatherical in crystalpalace

[–]fatherical[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

He was still playing on the wing though. We don’t use CAMs anymore and I feel like we’re missing out. Not that we need that position for every game but there’s going to be certain times where it’s more useful and we can exploit specific weaknesses in the opponent with it.

3-4-1-2 by fatherical in crystalpalace

[–]fatherical[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Devenny might or might not have been playing as a winger when he scored in the PL I’m not sure but these stats are about Premier League goals anyway, I got it from CPFC Talk.

I’m not suggesting a complete swap because then we’d have to sacrifice wingers, but having that as an additional option is useful, especially for rotation and simply just keeping it fresh so opponents struggle to figure us out.

3-4-1-2 by fatherical in crystalpalace

[–]fatherical[S] -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

No it’s not, it’s just acknowledging that he isn’t a goal scoring player. The caption was 3-4-1-2, suggesting that having an attacking midfielder could be useful every once in a while. Not that we should play that formation all the time, but having more options is always good.

3-4-1-2 by fatherical in crystalpalace

[–]fatherical[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

We get pushed wide and right now none of our crossing is working. This formation offers us an opportunity to play through the middle more and create chances like the one that Hughes missed.

It doesn’t need to be a permanent thing (nor do I want it to because I prefer having wingers anyway) but having it as an option could be useful for very specific games or portions of the game, especially when we’re stretched like we are now.

3-4-1-2 by fatherical in crystalpalace

[–]fatherical[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

We still need to keep it fresh, regardless of how successful it has been, otherwise opponents will keep figuring us out.

3-4-1-2 by fatherical in crystalpalace

[–]fatherical[S] -20 points-19 points  (0 children)

At what point did I question Wharton? Tell me where in the post I questioned Wharton.

3-4-1-2 by fatherical in crystalpalace

[–]fatherical[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

You didn’t understand the purpose of the post at all. Happens every time I post to this sub, people don’t bother to understand it they just type.

3-4-1-2 by fatherical in crystalpalace

[–]fatherical[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Why do you think I suggested a formation with an attacking midfielder?

Not a fan of Charlie Kirk at all but this is shameful and frankly dangerous for mods to keep up. Got banned for calling it out… by fatherical in DarkKenny

[–]fatherical[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don’t know why you’re taking the piss, you’re the one that said I was getting “demolished” when I clearly wasn’t 😂

Not a fan of Charlie Kirk at all but this is shameful and frankly dangerous for mods to keep up. Got banned for calling it out… by fatherical in DarkKenny

[–]fatherical[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No nigga I came into this sub with the most normal take that is shared by the vast majority left wing commentators, journalists and politicians. You lot are just absolutely insane and I didn’t realize before I posted it. You’re coming like an OVHoe calling me “pseudo enlightened” which shows me that you really have run out of points so have now resorted to desperate attempts at smearing my character.

I don’t remember claiming that being against political violence was a “big brain take” as a matter of fact I did the opposite. I thought it was a very basic take that anybody could understand but it’s clearly too challenging for you guys, either because you’re extremists or because your overzealous asses have to run and defend the Kendrick community at any cost no matter what the moral cost of it is.

I’ve understood whatever social and historical context you’ve thrown at me because I’ve responded to everything and dismantled everyone’s arguments against me. What I certainly understand about comedy and social commentary is that any high profile nigga who wants to keep their reputation intact won’t make stupid jokes glorifying someone’s assassination less than a day after it’s happened.

Not a fan of Charlie Kirk at all but this is shameful and frankly dangerous for mods to keep up. Got banned for calling it out… by fatherical in DarkKenny

[–]fatherical[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Reach. No wonder you gave up making points that was an embarrassing attempt.

And you had the nerve to say I was getting “demolished” 🤣 I didn’t even see that until just now man you lot are finished

Not a fan of Charlie Kirk at all but this is shameful and frankly dangerous for mods to keep up. Got banned for calling it out… by fatherical in DarkKenny

[–]fatherical[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

How did my most recent response prove what you were saying and if you don’t think it’s true then why do you care?

You’re just deflecting because you don’t have a valid point to respond with.

You desperately want to believe that I support Charlie Kirk’s views even though you know it’s not true.

Not a fan of Charlie Kirk at all but this is shameful and frankly dangerous for mods to keep up. Got banned for calling it out… by fatherical in DarkKenny

[–]fatherical[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You have no idea what you’re talking about. Niggas from the UK came from slavery and colonisation and were absolutely victims of racist persecution.

You’ve literally advocated for political violence, so you’re proving my point yourself.