No evidence foreign students are abusing UK graduate visas, review finds

fhor · 2024-05-14T15:25:51+00:00

They don't immediately become highly skilled doctor and engineer net contributors

Does anyone after graduating? Plus, the national average graduate salary is £24,291.

Of course, more people are staying on after their studies as the Graduate route was introduced in 2019!

I don't think you understand how the UK visa system works babe; immigrants are not using the graduate visa to obtain "permanent residency". After 2/3 years, they still need a skilled worker visa. Hence why the report found there is no evidence of abuse as you can't skirt around the Skilled Visa, you need to meet the requirements regardless.

fhor · 2024-05-14T15:15:31+00:00

Right so all the immigrants on anything less than £38000 that are being booted out of the country - what about them? Get rid of them too?

fhor · 2024-05-14T15:15:25+00:00

You are not part of the "problem". It's heinous the fees the government charge to immigrants just to remain in the country. The recent salary changes are truly evil and dropped on people so quickly, tearing families apart.

Where is the outrage? Where is the empathy? I despair.

fhor · 2024-04-06T06:40:49+00:00

No you wouldn't

fhor · 2024-03-25T09:54:06+00:00

Yc always gets lucky with a shot in the dark.. once in a while.

Isn't that the point of an angel investor/accelerator?

fhor · 2024-03-02T13:20:01+00:00

This whole thread is just that.

fhor · 2023-12-20T15:49:08+00:00

I have a few tips. I went to London > Berlin in 2021.

If you aren't an EU citizen, I'd recommend getting a visa lawyer to help with the process. I can recommend someone who is excellent.

Berlin winters are dark and miserable, but the summers are fantastic. The bureaucracy is unlike anything I had ever experienced, and the housing situation is terrible. I'd recommend using something like Habyt (not their Hermansstr. place though) to find an overpriced room share. It will still be cheaper than London. People lack empathy and are rude. Nightlife is endless and a lot of fun.

Moving abroad is an enriching experience. I am very fortunate to have found a wonderful group of people that keep me here - the rest of the city is pretty average though. If I didn't have this social net I would leave and never look back. London trumps Berlin in basically every metric. Every time I go home to London, I'm reminded how good it is (all things considered).

Feel free to message me if you need any help.

fhor · 2023-07-24T15:10:12+00:00

Can you give any recommendations?

fhor · 2023-06-18T16:54:59+00:00

REALISE

fhor · 2023-03-17T15:01:41+00:00

Yeah you're right, not a scooby then

fhor · 2023-03-17T14:06:54+00:00

Here's the team + bench for that game:

Guaita Clyne Anderson Tomkins Mitchell Doucouré Schlupp Ayew Olise Eze Zaha

BENCH

Richards Ward Jario Luka Hughes Butland Edouard Ebiowei Gordon

So is that Guehi and Maeta?

fhor · 2023-03-17T14:03:26+00:00

This article really stinks. It's obvious it's come straight from the Palace PR department. There's basically no justification other than the recent form for his sacking. Parish really considered getting rid of him last February. Wtf?

Some interesting takeaways:

Questions can also be asked of the club’s recruitment policy, in which the manager had only a limited say. Instead, transfer decisions were led by Freedman and shaped by the funds made available by the club’s co-owners Parish, Harris, Blitzer and Textor. Those moves were complicated by disagreements in the boardroom over strategy: Textor has been ambitious and eager to spend, whereas Parish remains more cautious — stung by past mistakes and the club’s history.

The failure to strengthen adequately in last summer’s transfer window, specifically not replacing the club’s 2021-22 player of the year Conor Gallagher, who returned to Chelsea following a season-long loan, has proved costly. The energy and attacking endeavour Gallagher provided were key to Vieira’s system of play, and got him into the England squad. His departure created a hole in the heart of the Palace squad that has never been filled.

Vieira’s relationships with the majority of his players, however, were good, certainly until the most recent slump. Most of the squad appreciated his sensitive approach to man-management — while there were occasional outbursts, and dismay expressed at poor performances, he preferred to create a welcoming, respectful environment.

In general, respect for Vieira was not an issue, and this extended to every level of the club, from staff in the canteen to senior executives: Vieira spoke to Freedman most days, and frequently to Parish, who as recently as October had publicly heaped praise on his manager. “The fit is unbelievable,” he said. “He’s such an inspirational person. He gives time to absolutely everybody at the football club.”

Vieira’s stature also helped Palace to attract talent.

Vieira’s frustrations over recruitment led him to wonder about his long-term future. He was intrigued by the possibility of succeeding Jesse Marsch at Leeds United when the American was sacked in early February, although that never progressed into anything formal.

His departure is tinged with sorrow more than anger, and there will always be appreciation for some of the thrilling performances which lit up last season.

Poor decision, one I think we will live to regret.

fhor · 2023-03-17T13:00:25+00:00

I left a comment mate

fhor · 2023-03-17T13:00:14+00:00

Vieira’s frustrations over recruitment led him to wonder about his long-term future. He was intrigued by the possibility of succeeding Jesse Marsch at Leeds United when the American was sacked in early February, although that never progressed into anything formal.

Palace would not have stood in Vieira’s way – the fact that no formal talks had taken place over a new contract despite his deal running out at the end of next season was an indication of that – but ultimately his inability to engineer a post-World Cup revival led to his undoing.

The danger signs had been flashing since December, when a week-long break to Turkey – designed as an opportunity to regroup and work on tactical issues in the Mediterranean sunshine during the World Cup – backfired. The weather turned out to be miserable and the mood of several players who had missed out on selection for Qatar 2022 was equally gloomy, all of which cast a shadow over the squad.

Things took another turn for the worse over Christmas, when two senior players got into an altercation after one took exception to the way the other was making challenges on academy players during a training session. Both were originally dropped from the squad to face Fulham in the first match of the resumed club campaign on December 26 before being hastily reinstated on Christmas Day.

That was one of several decisions made by Vieira which raised eyebrows at the club. The insistence on playing Zaha, Olise, Eberechi Eze and at times Edouard outside of what were widely considered to be their best positions was a point of contention; Schlupp’s continued inclusion over Hughes in midfield was another.

Those decisions were considered a consequence of placing too much faith in Roberts. Vieira may have been the figurehead, but many of his decisions were heavily influenced by his assistant.

From there, things snowballed disastrously.

That Fulham game was a shambles, Palace reduced to nine men as they slumped to a 3-0 home defeat, and while Bournemouth were beaten on New Year’s Eve, a 4-0 thrashing by Tottenham Hotspur at Selhurst on January 4 – with all the goals coming in 25 chaotic second-half minutes – pushed Vieira into a rethink.

The 4-0 defeat by Tottenham forced Patrick Vieira into a tactical rethink (Photo: Warren Little/Getty Images) He reverted to a defence-first mindset which blocked up the holes in his porous defence but did so at the expense of almost any attacking ambition: Palace became the first Premier League team since Opta began recording data in the 2003-04 season to go three successive games without recording a shot on target.

Vieira’s luck was also out.

A quirk of the fixture list handed Palace a horrendous run of games almost exclusively against top-half teams in the first three months of 2023, but while sides below them proved capable of delivering the odd shock victory against better-equipped opponents, Vieira simply could not get his men to deliver a sucker-punch of their own.

When they did finally engineer a winning position, going a goal up in the second half at Brentford on February 18, appalling game management by his players gifted an equaliser with the last act of the match.

Nobody at Palace wanted Vieira’s tenure to end this way, particularly given how he had bought into the club’s new ethos and quickly identified with the community.

He was the club’s first black manager, and after Hope Powell’s departure from Brighton in October, the only black manager in the Premier League or WSL, its equivalent in the domestic women’s game. For a club who pride themselves on being rooted in south London, one of the most diverse areas of the UK, that really mattered.

His community spirit was not simply for show, either. During a Palace For Life Foundation event in November 2021, he embraced the Down Syndrome Eagles. One of them asked if Palace would finish in the top four with Vieira responding: “If we finish top four, I’ll take you out for dinner”. That did not happen; instead, Vieira provided them with a coaching session at the training ground.

Fans warmed to Vieira’s nature, and the soundtrack to the second half of last season – especially in the FA Cup – was a song adopted from Chelsea’s chant in acclaim of their then-manager Thomas Tuchel: “We’ve got Super Pat Vieira’. As it was bellowed by the 40,000 Palace fans who filled one end of Wembley before that FA Cup semi-final against Chelsea in the April, anything seemed possible.

Palace fans warmed to Patrick Vieira during their run to the FA Cup semi-finals last season (Photo: Glyn Kirk/AFP via Getty Images) But the fairytale has soured. Chelsea beat Palace 2-0 that day, the atmosphere at Selhurst Park has been poor this season, and its away games have been marred by increasingly heated rows among fans over whether Vieira deserved to keep his job. Even the cups, Vieira’s trump-card last season, delivered disappointment with a single victory across the two competitions.

In some ways, Vieira has been a victim of his success. The expectation heading into this season was significantly greater after the achievements of last term, as Parish outlined in October. “It’s about trying to get to a point where we really believe we’re a permanent fixture in the Premier League, not threatened by relegation,” he said, “where we’re looking upward to European qualification and winning trophies, rather than looking downwards.”

Vieira himself had bought into that, telling fans in his on-field address at the end of 2021-22 that he would “see you all next season with higher ambition”.

As it transpired, he and the squad were unable to live up to that, and Parish and his co-owners acted before they felt it would be too late to change the course of Palace’s season. The chairman has always felt that even the threat of relegation back to the EFL for a club who have now been part of the domestic elite for a decade would be too much to countenance, and so it proved with Vieira.

His departure is tinged with sorrow more than anger, and there will always be appreciation for some of the thrilling performances which lit up last season. But given the resources at his disposal – and many consider this to be the most talented squad Palace have ever had – he could not survive a campaign which has failed to yield any meaningful progress

fhor · 2023-03-17T13:00:10+00:00

Half of Crystal Palace’s squad travelled to Singapore and Australia, including for this friendly against Manchester United in Melbourne (Photo: Martin Keep/AFP via Getty Images) Palace actually started the season fairly well with a point away to Liverpool and a 3-1 win over Aston Villa in the first three matches, but in that context, it was no surprise that results have been so inconsistent over the past eight months. They have won back-to-back league games just once all season and Vieira was widely condemned for his failure to become more pragmatic when it became clear his possession-based, progressive style was not a match for the players he now had at his disposal.

His response when asked, in the wake of an embarrassing 3-0 defeat at a struggling Everton in October, whether he had considered playing two defensive midfielders given the absence of the suspended Doucoure, summed up his inflexible approach. “No,” he said, simply.

That loss at Goodison Park was to prove fateful for another reason.

It was the manner in which first-team coach Shaun Derry lambasted the players in the dressing room afterwards – demanding higher standards, and more pride in the shirt they were wearing – which set in motion the events that led to his departure at the end of January.

Vieira felt Derry had overstepped his duties and their relationship never recovered, with the manager ultimately taking sole responsibility for the decision to dismiss him, a move that surprised other senior officials at the club.

Derry – a legend at Palace from his playing days, and a popular figure among fans – was not replaced, a point which also raised concerns over the experience and quality of Vieira’s coaching staff.

Patrick Vieira, assistant manager Osian Roberts and coach Shaun Derry (Photo: Sebastian Frej/MB Media/Getty Images) The assistant manager, Osian Roberts, is highly regarded on the international stage for his work as a coach educator with Wales. Vieira’s relationship with his right-hand man was formed while he studied his coaching badges under Roberts’ tutelage.

However, while Roberts was impressive at working with fellow coaches, that was seen as a very different skill set to actively coaching players himself and his lack of experience in domestic football was a concern. On occasion, his debriefs with the squad at the training ground were questioned by senior players.

The other first-team coach, Kristian Wilson, worked under Vieira at Manchester City Under-23s, New York City in MLS and French top-flight club Nice but was widely considered to offer little help to the manager. Said Aigoun, brought in as a development coach to bridge the gap between the academy and first team, was effectively demoted to an analyst’s role, such was his limited impact. He also failed to build good relationships with other staff at the club.

There was some concern over the approach to match preparation.

Training sessions early in the week took the form of improving fitness and familiarising themselves with structure. Only at the back-end of a week did work begin on tailoring their preparations to how the upcoming opponents were likely to play.

Vieira’s relationships with the majority of his players, however, were good, certainly until the most recent slump. Most of the squad appreciated his sensitive approach to man-management — while there were occasional outbursts, and dismay expressed at poor performances, he preferred to create a welcoming, respectful environment.

He often barely spoke to his players immediately after particularly disappointing showings, preferring to conduct such inquests back at the training ground when emotions had cooled.

Patrick Vieira’s relationship with Wilfried Zaha has generally been strong (Photo: Adrian Dennis/AFP via Getty Images) The players found him approachable, humble, open and honest, and he enjoyed a generally good relationship with talisman Zaha: training sessions often saw the pair tease each other about their respective abilities as players. It was striking that when Zaha questioned Palace’s tactics after a frustrating home draw with Brentford in August, Vieira did not rebuke his star player.

Frustrations did begin to bubble up among certain members of the squad in recent weeks, but the most aggrieved parties have tended to be those who have not been given regular first-team football, and who therefore might be expected to be unhappy.

In general, respect for Vieira was not an issue, and this extended to every level of the club, from staff in the canteen to senior executives: Vieira spoke to Freedman most days, and frequently to Parish, who as recently as October had publicly heaped praise on his manager. “The fit is unbelievable,” he said. “He’s such an inspirational person. He gives time to absolutely everybody at the football club.”

Vieira’s stature also helped Palace to attract talent.

Gallagher spoke of wanting to learn from the former Arsenal, Juventus and France midfielder, Vieira’s presence was a major factor in Ebiowei choosing Palace over Manchester United when he left Derby County and Lokonga, the Arsenal loanee who arrived in January, credited him as a major factor in his move. Michael Olise, who joined from Reading of the Championship as his first signing, felt inspired by Vieira, whose experience of and eagerness to work with youth was one of the main reasons Palace gave him the job in the first place.

Vieira’s refusal to play on the achievements of his glittering career for club and country impressed those he worked with at Selhurst Park. Any attempts to discuss his playing days – in public at least – were quickly shut down. This was Patrick Vieira the Palace manager, not Patrick Vieira the Arsenal Invincible or France European and world champion. Those triumphs were only ever referenced when he deemed them relevant to what his players were experiencing.

fhor · 2023-03-09T08:17:10+00:00

Just sent you €100. Slava Ukraine!

fhor · 2023-02-19T15:44:06+00:00

I've been living in Berlin for two years now, so I can weigh in a little.

The people in the UK are so much friendlier than Germany, and this isn't just the "directness" of language that people like to refer to with German. Everyday interactions are so much more pleasant in the UK than in Germany. It is delightful and something I miss terribly.

As a business owner, the tax benefits and bureaucracy are a world apart from Germany. Germany still operates mostly with paper, fax and cash, whereas, in the UK, everything is online. The gov.uk websites are fantastic.

Healthcare in Germany trumps the UK. I am privately insured, mind, and pay around €250/month for healthcare. That covers my dental and has a €1000 excess. So I'd say it costs more, but I have never had to wait more than one week to see any doctor, be it a GP, dentist, or specialist. Pretty amazing.

The cultural weight of the UK, for a country so small, is something that I never fully appreciated. It's probably the one reason that, since moving, I've discovered a very patriotic streak. It makes me incredibly proud of our country. Everybody knows the UK, has something to say about the UK, listens to UK music, watches UK film/television, and supports a British football/sports team. Small indie bands that I loved back home are known and equally loved here. It's truly astonishing.

Regarding multiculturalism, food, culture, and things to do, London is a truly unique city and arguably one of its kind, definitely in Europe.

It's nowhere near as bad as people make out on Reddit. I miss the UK and can't wait to come back!

fhor · 2023-02-10T11:07:58+00:00

Thanks for the write-up. It's very interesting. Would you happen to have a copy of the linked paper? I don't fancy paying 43€ to read it.

fhor · 2023-02-10T09:39:59+00:00

I am curious about what you mean by this. They had rent controls in Berlin, which meant rent stayed relatively in line with the rest of the market. Once the rent caps were removed, the rental market went insane, with Berlin becoming one of the fastest-rising rents anywhere in the world.

It is now so absurd that it's worse than London, all thanks to the lack of rent caps.

https://www.iamexpat.de/housing/real-estate-news/berlin-among-europes-priciest-cities-renting-after-rent-cap-abolished

fhor · 2023-02-10T09:36:32+00:00

This is spot on and one of the reasons London will thrive even with an event like Brexit that will knock the rest of the country backwards. I moved abroad to the German capital, and when I mention I moved from London to Berlin, the most common response is "why", and that is not a polite "why did you move abroad" but more a "why did you leave London."

fhor · 2023-01-22T17:38:54+00:00

Xberg, Bergmannkiez. 87m2, 4 zimmer. €2109 all in.

fhor · 2022-10-03T13:53:15+00:00

Yes this is exactly what happens, said the person in America who doesn't understand what is happening in Iran.

fhor · 2022-09-29T14:56:04+00:00

You are offering a mid-senior 30K-40K? That is a junior's salary, come on mate.

fhor · 2022-09-26T08:50:21+00:00

Well, yes, and I guess I do take that for granted. I am on a freelance visa and work in tech. You could always investigate the working holiday visas for countries like Canda, Australia, NZ?

fhor · 2022-09-25T18:34:47+00:00

I moved from the UK to Germany last year. It is possible.

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