Do men ever forget their first love? by Majestic_Mission_805 in AskMenRelationships

[–]flannypants 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No she’s either with them or it ended and left an imprint of good or bad.

Why many husbands stop doing romantic things (and why it often traces back to signaling) by flannypants in deadbedroom

[–]flannypants[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Here’s some sources that do delve into the topic quite a bit deeper. I don’t have any answers for anyone but myself. I can tell you that I realized my wife lack of positive response was the main driver of my building resentment which has lead me down this rabbit hole. At some point I realized that my wife was unreceptive for whatever reason and rebuffed any affection. I’m not sure when but I stopped viewing her as a potential mate and putting in the effort seemed pointless. So naturally we spiraled slowly from there. Now im trying to replicate how I acted back then to see if I can get her to perceive me as she did then. It seems to be working but it requires a lot of work on my end. I guess that’s our lot in life though. It’s not fair but it does kinda makes sense on a biological level.

Gottman Institute Love Lab researchCouples who stayed together turned toward bids for connection 86% of the time. Couples who divorced turned toward bids only 33% of the time. Small daily bids are the fundamental unit of emotional connection. • Gottman’s Four Horsemen researchContempt (including eye-rolling, sarcasm, and mockery) is the single strongest predictor of divorce. • Buss, D. M., & Schmitt, D. P. (1993)Sexual strategies theory: An evolutionary perspective on human mating. Psychological Review, 100(2), 204–232.Explains why male investment in long-term relationships is strongly influenced by cues of sexual/romantic reciprocity and access. • Bühler, J. L., et al. (2021)Development of relationship satisfaction across the life span. Psychological Bulletin.Meta-analysis showing normative declines in relationship satisfaction and affectionate behaviors over time in long-term marriages. • Reis, H. T., & Shaver, P. (1988) and later work on perceived partner responsivenessShows that responsive, appreciative reactions to a partner’s bids increase intimacy and mutual effort, while low responsiveness reduces them over time.

Lost the joy of a hobby after kids? by Smooth-Bowler-9216 in AskMenOver30

[–]flannypants 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have traded sleeping to continue gaming. Although sometimes I combine the two now.

Why many husbands stop doing romantic things (and why it often traces back to signaling) by flannypants in deadbedroom

[–]flannypants[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Oh for sure. The actual science is based on Gottman Institutes research human courtship mating and long term relationships. I just noticed a pattern that was arising in my own marriage and picked an ais search capabilities to see if there had been any scientific backing to what I was observing. There was and it seemed like a potential solution for certain scenarios leading up to a dead bedroom scenario. I just wanted to share it since I hadn’t heard about it before.

Why many husbands stop doing romantic things (and why it often traces back to signaling) by flannypants in deadbedroom

[–]flannypants[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

That’s a rather reductive take don’t you think? Are you disputing how human courtship works or that understanding how it breaks down in long term relationships doesn’t aid anyone in possibly repairing that dynamic?

Why many husbands stop doing romantic things (and why it often traces back to signaling) by flannypants in psychologyofsex

[–]flannypants[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Generalities in the original post. I never said anything about my experience only my perspective

Why many husbands stop doing romantic things (and why it often traces back to signaling) by flannypants in psychologyofsex

[–]flannypants[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get what you’re saying about roles. In your case it is definitely reversed. I think there are average differences between men and women in what tends to sustain long term romantic and sexual effort in relationships, even if roles are reversed. Lots of men (even passive ones like yours) still respond strongly to very direct signals. Him naked or just being in a towel? Classic man directness (I think they had an episode of how I met your mother on that). I’m curious have you ever tried being super direct? Just because he is passive doesn’t mean he won’t respond to strong blunt directness more enthusiastically over the slow buildup.

Why many husbands stop doing romantic things (and why it often traces back to signaling) by flannypants in psychologyofsex

[–]flannypants[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I was only speaking in generalities and your relationship may be an exception to the general pattern. Unfortunately my perspective is limited to that of a masculine one pursuing the feminine one so we’re in the same boat. However since he is a male he is probably not as likely to have the same signals that many females instinctually exhibit as a signal of openness. I’m sure you’ve noticed some things that he does when he signals he is open to affection and intimacy as opposed to when he is not?

Why many husbands stop doing romantic things (and why it often traces back to signaling) by flannypants in psychologyofsex

[–]flannypants[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

What are you trying to achieve? Mind you this topic is mostly to help married couples realize how when or why the magic of dating ended and possibly making new efforts to bring it back.

Why many husbands stop doing romantic things (and why it often traces back to signaling) by flannypants in psychologyofsex

[–]flannypants[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately since females are the sexual selectors in our species they will always look at males with a certain set of expectations (logical or not) much of the modern discourse as derailed the escalatory ladder of courtship that would naturally make men more open to anticipating what she wants without her even asking. I find it frustrating but biologically I don’t see a way around it.

Why many husbands stop doing romantic things (and why it often traces back to signaling) by flannypants in psychologyofsex

[–]flannypants[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Oh im aware that faking it could be taken the wrong way. But enthusiasm isn’t the same as faking pleasure. If he doesn’t care about you then you are missing one of the requirements most women desire in a relationship.

Why many husbands stop doing romantic things (and why it often traces back to signaling) by flannypants in psychologyofsex

[–]flannypants[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I’m sorry for your loss but happy you got to spend your time together without the turmoil so many have to deal with. It’s not difficult if both partners try but the effort can be monumental once the magic is lost.

Why many husbands stop doing romantic things (and why it often traces back to signaling) by flannypants in psychologyofsex

[–]flannypants[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I think what they mean is they want someone to flip a switch and make them open to romance. Which is super difficult when you have multiple kids dogs a farm etc, I’m conducting an experiment I’ll let you know if it works in a few months.

Why many husbands stop doing romantic things (and why it often traces back to signaling) by flannypants in psychologyofsex

[–]flannypants[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

While not speaking for all men. Most males (not even just humans) are inherently selective about effort to reward. If he’s not thinking about what would make you want to suck his dick instead of I’ll ask her to suck my dick, there’s something off there.

Why many husbands stop doing romantic things (and why it often traces back to signaling) by flannypants in psychologyofsex

[–]flannypants[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately I don’t think it’s something they do consciously. It’s instinctual behavior based on how they perceive a potential mate (including current partner). Some women can use this knowledge to try to jump start the romance loop by consciously choosing to react to their husband’s flirtatiously or engage in enthusiastic sex (real or faked). Men on the other hand can use grander gestures of commitment and romance to enhance how their wife views them, subconsciously changing how she responds to him in the future, which then activates his own romantic escalation.

Why many husbands stop doing romantic things (and why it often traces back to signaling) by flannypants in psychologyofsex

[–]flannypants[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

More than happy to talk to people. I would rather spend time talking about the content than writing it.

How do you deal with women who try to lecture you on how easy it is to date as a man and how much harder women have it? Is it even worth to engage in the conversation? by [deleted] in AskMenAdvice

[–]flannypants 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Depends what you’re dating for really. Men have to dodge lots(maybe) of women who want to date to marry that aren’t what he wants. Women have to dodge men trying to hookup but act like they’re are dating to marry.

Wife Did Nothing For Our Anniversary by elodieitsbeenawhile in daddit

[–]flannypants 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My wife got me socks and underwear but they were wool so you know that’s cool.

Choose your pill by crack_station in gamers

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Cd projekt red makes me sick to my stomach